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October 2011: Crawling, teething and (we hope) sleeping through

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Penelope1980 · 30/04/2012 00:03

Sorry guys - posted the 1000th message without realising Blush, so hopefully you can all find this thread!

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Jnice · 13/06/2012 22:32

Hello Tango - good to meet you Smile

I am being treated for PND too, thankfully it's working and I'm doing a lot better.

Tangointhenight · 13/06/2012 22:40

Glad to hear you are doing better Jnice, I'm off my meds now but at times I still have dark days, things can only get better!

strawberrypenguin · 13/06/2012 23:19

Jnice glad to hear you're doing better

Hi Tango Smile

Fuzzy great list thanks x

Yay for good meet up, sounds like it was fun Smile

sassy34264 · 14/06/2012 00:24

jnice Angry mine does that too- goes one better. he's more tired cos he has to travel! except when he came out of the navy, he didnt have to travel and he was more tired than ever. said to him- welcome to my world.

he's conviently forgot this though and he's back to saying it again. he has 2 nights in a hotel this week. said i wish i could have 2 nights in a hotel and he went off on one about travelling again.

found him yet? ............that guy that gives a shit.

said i use to travel for 2 hours a day in my last job, and i had a child and a house to look after and i paid all the bills too, so even if i had any sympathy i wouldnt give you any. until you give a fuck about me (i was ill and didnt eat for 48hours a few weeks ago and he still went the gym! and left me to get kids ready for bed) i dont give a fucking fuck about you. was REALLY REALLY mad.

Grin

im very low maintenance materialistically, but im off the scale emotionally. i sometimes feel sorry for him...........but then he does something else to pee me off!!!

right, best stop moaning about him now and go to sleep.
what we need is a wife!

sassy34264 · 14/06/2012 00:26

waves and welcomes tango

Penelope1980 · 14/06/2012 02:14

We have a treasure box here and A loves it - i've found he likes to sift through toys himself so have started putting them all in a box now and letting him pull them out as he wants to. Keeps him entertained for ages sometimes. I put in a small mirror and that went down a treat.

I am sick. Bleeurg. Today is my second day off work, and slept till midday which I haven't done in about a year. Sometimes I wonder how much of the sicknesses I've had recently wouldn't just be helped by more sleep - think that after a month back at work I am just exhausted. DH is looking after A though which is nice. The challenge is not rushing back into things as soon as I start to feel moderately OK again and getting sick again!

Sassy you are right about men being at home, now DH has been a stay home dad for a month (since I went back to work) he has a much greater appreciation of what it was like for me. It is impossible to explain to someone who hasn't been a SAHM or SAHD just how soul destroying doing laundry every single day can be.

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Jnice · 14/06/2012 02:58

strawberry and tango - thanks!

Grin sassy - you sound just like me! I can go crazy at DH sometimes. On Saturday he called me crazy and even if I agree there is no way you should be using that word with someone suffering PND! I completely lost it with him. The air was blue Blush

EdwardorEricCantDecide · 14/06/2012 09:34

Welcome tango hope all is well and lazy/moaning DHs have pulled their socks up.

Had a great day yesterday with fuzzy bb3 and mrsH and Scottish weather wa cooperating for a change too Grin

Off in to work now, then home to do the housework before kids and dh get back, the joys, I can totally relate to lazy/selfish DHs, I am starting to think it is just default mode for all men Sad

ipswichwitch · 14/06/2012 11:23

Hi tango
Must be something in the air, all these moaning DHs. Mines at it now!! Started on this morning about how tired he is, the usual "I have to get up for work you know" thing. Only today I let rip with "oh no you don't, I get up at 6, get me and N breakfast then dressed and I leave earlier than I used to so I drop him at nursery on way to work. In addition to the night feeds and comforting he needs now teething is motoring along. You get up at half 6, no night waking for you, and spend half an hour in the toilet before swanning off to work. "
Not that it's a competition or owt, but I've had 8 months of him moaning that I don't know how hard it is for him getting up for work. Well now I do, and believe me he's now gonna find out all about it!!!! I can't wait to see what happens next tue when he has N for the day by himself ha!!

strawberrypenguin · 14/06/2012 12:50

Had a chat with my boss today about going back to work. We agreed on a start date of 13 Aug :( I know I'm lucky to have a job but I'm still :( about going back

Scheherezade · 14/06/2012 13:00

Brilliant, thanks fuzzzy ! We have this treasure basket www.heritagetreasurebaskets.co.uk/p/Baby+Large+35+Items/27/ but I didn't buy it! Haha, we're loaning it (for free) from the children's centre. When I have to give it back I'll be going down to wilkos to make one up.

It sounds like S is having roundabout the same amount of milk as C then - he has 22oz a day, 3x7oz = 21oz, so thats reassuring! When you say she dropped it - did she just not get hungry and cry for a bottle so you didn't make it, or did you make the bottle but she didn't want it, so stopped making it? He drinks all of his bottles completely, so thats why I'm torn about stopping.

There seems to be two schools of thought;

  1. Off the bottles and onto solid food. Pro: stop baby getting fat, at this crucial age when metabolism and digestive everything is developing. Possibly stop obesity in later life. Negative: I'm concerned it's overloading his digestive system with solid food too early, before 'nature intended' him to be on solids. Also it means that I worry if he doesn't like or eat a meal, because at least if he is still having 2x daytime bottles he gets the nutrition from that - it doesn't matter if he doesn't want to eat.

  2. Nothing but EBF/FF until 1, trying some food. Pros/Cons basically the opposite of above. He's a good eater, so I worry he's having too much, and is getting big. The hospital haven't been plotting him on the charts in the red book, so I don't know what centime he's on, will get the HV to do it next week. But I think he's moved from 50th-75th.

Glad to hear you're doing better Jnice - how are the night feeds/wakings?

Agree re: work in the house. I'm very lucky as DP is really appreciative of what I do and tries to help, but it does get frustrating as I know he works very hard and has a lot of responsibility blahblah. But there is nothing like the feeling when you've done nothing but tidy/clean/tidy/clean/tidy/clean for days, and then he comes home and chucks his clothes on the floor. If he does the washing up, he always conveniently "forgets" or doesn't notice the pile of pans stacked up next to the sink - he has left pans just sitting on the side rotting for days, when I've been away. If he does C's bath/bed he just leaves the dirty clothes dumped on the floor. It's really small, petty stuff, but when you have been tidying all day, and then he comes back and just expects me to clean up after him, I lose it. He once laughed at me for having a go at him for making a mess, thinking it was funny, and because I am so wonderfully passive-agressive I cried. He took it a bit more seriously then. Sometimes he even washes the pans. Thing is he doesn't have high standards, so if he were a SAHD, the place would be a mess, because he wouldn't care. He'd do the hoovering occasionally, and wash clothes, but he wouldn't bother putting clean laundry away, or hoovering properly, or doing any cleaning. He didn't clean the bathroom ONCE the whole time I was in hospital - which was 3 months!! So I cleaned it for him.

I don't expect him to do housework, just to not create more for me. I.E. pick up his clothes. Put dirty laundry in the basket.

Here endeth my rant Grin

strawberrypenguin · 14/06/2012 13:46

On a happier note just had the bundle of toys I got off eBay delivered and they are amazing. W is having great fun with them, it's like Christmas Grin

FuzzzyDuckosaurus · 14/06/2012 15:08

sch the 11am bottle I just stopped making. If I did make it she would drink it but I just feel having 4 x 7oz, 3 good meals and a snack a day is just to much! If she had all that in a day, she would be sick! I'm not one for following the rules and sticking to guidelines. I go by what I think for her. She is a very good eater and I want to encourage that so yes, I would prefer that she is eating food rather than being filled up with milk. Go by what you think though. If he hasn't ate much at lunch then offer a bottle, same with breakfast. You could even just give 4oz around 10.30/11 and a small snack. I plan in the next few months to try giving her some of her afternoon bottle in her cup to have alongside her snack.

The over eating plays on my mind to. We had a few baby's in nursery who were just huge. One boy started at 7/8 months and I was Shock at the amount of food his mum brought for him and he would eat it. This was alongside 4 or 5 full bottles in the time he was in (usually 8am till 5.30pm). He turned out to be a very chubby toddler, not through eating junky foods but just from being given far to much.
Just my own experience though Smile

sp what toys did you get? Was it a bundle? That's a great idea!

Scheherezade · 14/06/2012 15:45

Hmm. I definitely need to reduce intake, I tried doing 4oz and snack and he hated it, he was constantly eating so it put him off food. I'm just scared of not making a bottle and him screaming for it, and refusing food because he's hungry.

He is big, about 75%. Another baby at group today who is 2 weeks older but on 9th%, C looks about 2 months older!

FuzzzyDuckosaurus · 14/06/2012 15:56

Don't worry to much though about his weight. When he starts getting about, he will be using up lots of energy so will eat more to make it up. Maybe try cutting down an oz a week then. If he wants it, I'd still give it. S just wasn't bothered of I never made it

Tangointhenight · 14/06/2012 16:05

Im really struggling to get milk into my DD, these past two weeks she has lost interest and will take 6 oz in the morning, 4 in the afternoon and about 6 in the evening.

She does have her three meals and a snack in the afternoon before her bottle. Have any of you any tips on how to increase? She won't drink it from a sippy cup and is BLW for meals so I can't sneak it into her food.

Tangointhenight · 14/06/2012 16:08

Should say she is on the 91st centile for height and weight, she was 21lb 8 oz last week!

Maybe she doesn't need it?

Scheherezade · 14/06/2012 16:11

(And now that he's eating 3 good meals a day I can't regress and give him less food. )

Scheherezade · 14/06/2012 16:15

Tango, I made rice pudding. When it cooled it solidifies and he finger eats that. Or cheese? Whisk milk into omelette. Pancakes?

Tangointhenight · 14/06/2012 16:19

Good thinking on the rice pudding, its more her formula that I'm talking about iykwim, or does using cows milk in cooking count towards her overall intake?

Scheherezade · 14/06/2012 16:23

Sorry fuzzzy missed your post. Will try that, thanks :)

I think I struggle accepting him on less milk. Ideally I'd do what my mum did (and probably will if we have #2!), and just milk for first year, trying food now and then. But it was hospital that started him weaning like this, so I've not had much choice.

Scheherezade · 14/06/2012 16:25

Professionals tell me cows milk counts, people on MN tell me it doesn't.

Cows milk doesn't contain as much iron, but I think the idea is that they get the ir (etc) on from their diet. You wouldn't give exclusive cows milk to a non weaned baby.

strawberrypenguin · 14/06/2012 16:26

fuzzzy yeah it was a bundle, really good price £23 inc postage for at least 20 toys all in really good condition some look like they've never been played with! It's a mix of v-tech noisy toys, rattles and softer sensory Lamaze type toys.

scheh W has more milk than C and is an ok eater though he doesn't have a huge appetite and he's a skinny little thing holding steady on 25th percentile but he moves a lot so I think he burns a lot off too.

Scheherezade · 14/06/2012 16:26

Iron*

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