November 05 Babies

[Rodeo]

A new thread for us and our little 2, 3 and very nearly 4 month olds, where is the time going??!!

hi all,
looking forward to seeing everyone tommorow!!!!!
Diege will be at the station for 10.30am
twinkle & josh

Great swimming day today - started stage two so there are a lot more submersions. The company that run the classes are soooo disorganised though.

A 'woo-hoo' is long overdue to:
our first tooth - thanks to Sam
our first roll over - thanks to Jess

Don't know if any of you find that some of the 'milestones' creep up on you. I was looking through her baby memories book (waiting for DH to fill it in with his nice writing) and some of the things like lifting head and clasping hands I just can't put a definite date on, it just gradually happened. Not that I'm losing sleep over it .

Well, her night wasn't too bad considering the jabs. Are other babies still waking for food in the night or is it just my little chunky monkey?

Hi,

Had a great day out, went to Tate Modern, brrrrr, cold wind but beautiful along the river. Saw some great stuff. Fell asleep for a few seconds while feeding Elizabeth on lovely leather sofa upstairs lol.
Think movie is 'Proof' tomorrow, is that what the new 'Gwynnie' one's called? Thanks Diege .
BoB, your MIL sounds fun.
Gtg......

Sounds a lovely day out Londoner! Even if you did fall to sleep in an Art Gallery! Blame the heating!

Nova, stage 2! Wow, that sounds really advanced for a 3 month old! What a water baby Is Libra a water sign? Jess hasn't had her first swim yet, I'll get my finger out to go this weekend! Hope you have a FAB weekend BTW! LOL at veil and L plates! Are you not going to hang condoms and pictures of naked men off her too?!

Got Jess weighed this afternoon and she is now 13lb 2oz! I thought she was more than that as she's feeling really heavy when she's on my shoulder, shes on the 25th centile, which is where all my children have been and are destined to be!

A tooth Enthusia! Wow! How old is Sam? 3 months? ds didn't get his til he was 13 months, he was gummy for ages!

Jess has been sticking her fist out a la superman this week and really staring at it with a puzzled expression, thnk she's cottoning on to the fact it's hers, ahhh

Bob, she'll soon be gone and you'll wonder how you'll ever cope without her Just remember - deep breaths!

Tex, what a lovely weekend I've said this before but it's nice to have you back!

Yay! It's Friday tomorrow see you at 12, Twinkle & Diege!

Love to all x x x xx xxx x x x x x x x x x x x x x xx x x

BoB, what is it about making sure the babies are warm?! My Mom was just the same when they were over until I gave her my leaflet on SIDS and explained why we shouldn't let the babies get too hot. Much easier when it's your own mother though. Maybe you could leave a leaflet just laying around.

Londoner, very jealous of your day at Tate. We're talking about going this weekend. It's a great museum with little ones and the restaurant is so nice. Enjoy the movie. I've heard Proof is really good.

Busy, just had a look at your new pics, they're really gorgeous! I love the one of Alfie on Alex's knee! And the one of Alex gazing at Alfie! What is their age gap? It'll be lovely when they can play together, they'll keep each other entertained for hours! We have the same vibrating chair BTW!

Hello all!
Can't believe that Sam has his first tooth!!! Not looking forward to that one - keep checking T's gums, as we have been frantically chewing our fists for some weeks now, but as yet no sign of the little white things!!

Am very proud of myself - made some tomato and red pepper soup today - all home made!!! Not a big fan of cooking, but got very inspired whilst at my Aunties house yesterday, so today, I bit the bullet and did it will see what the verdict is tomorrow, as dh is taking some to work, and one of his colleagues is going to sample it too!! hope it tastes ok!

Am also excited, as have had Thomas's place at nursery confirmed today!! Although have had to switch the days I wanted as the ones I had originally asked for weren't available. Luckily work are quite flexible, and didn't mind me altering the days I am going back, they are just happy I'm going back for 4 days a week. Gosh, going to nursery - he'll be soo grown up.....

Anyway - not sure if I've missed the invite BAM, but have posted email address a couple of times (on previous thread) to get invite into yahoo group to share piccies - but don't seem to have received one? Am I missing something?

Good night - oh, not sure who was asking - but T still wakes for a night feed - anywhere from 2am - 5am, but he does only have 4 feeds a day (including that one) so all is not too bad.

Tara
Brownie
x

Yes, we're still waking for milk at night too!

hello ladies, well a whole new thread and 84 new posts. how will i ever catch up??? thanks for the call golden but as predicted i was unable to meet for that drink in stokey as dp didn't get home until 8.20 pm. anyhow, i feel secretly pleased that several of you have noticed my cyber absence. aaah you lot.

so what have i been up to since we last spoke. Well i went to the hen night and i realised that i missed finn dreadfully and didn't want us to be apart from him ever again. am i being a scary psycho mummy? JAMES asked me if i resented him cutting the umbilical cord. har har.
i feel i love F more and more each day.

i did enjoy dancing at the hen night, until 4 a.m. i just didn't like the after bit, my internal clock woke me to find myself on the top bunk of a double decker bed in a dormitory style room with 10 snoring childless 30 somethings, high heel shoes and make up bags scattered across the floor, and below my bed my gorgeous yellow breast pump. i think i've crossed a line somewhere. So i was up at 7 a.m. having had 2 hours sleep with an awful head, stinky smokey clothing, boulder boobs, and a yearning to be back home cuddling my family. so up i got and headed off earlier than i had planned. don't think my childless friends really understood where i was coming from or why the breast pump made so much noise

After that, i becames gradually quite tired , i went to drs as i felt breathless sinmply lying in bed. I was told that i was only very slightly anaemic, so im now taking iron tabs and trying to get loads of sleep.

Finn has slowly started waking more and more during the night...two three times aaargh; Thinkn we've addressed the issues as last night i put him into the big cot instead of the moses basket as i think he was shuffling up and getting slight neck ache, and i gave him formula, which went down quite well. also have picked up the copy of gina ford's book that i had kicked under the sofa in disgust...

"routines. oh no! we're not routine kind of people" said james rather smugly who then asked me if i fancied watching another episode of curb your enthusiasm before bed, as we have done every single night since he got series one, two and three for christmas. hmm. quite.

anyway, i have come to realise that gina probably makes sense if you can live with staying indoors. so i'm doing the jenjam version of it which involves starting the schedule two hours later so we start the day at 9 and see how much of the routine we do between then and bedtime at 9 pm.

tomorrow finn and I are off to MIL for 5 days! and then after that i'm staying put in london and doing not very much until Spring is properly here.
Hope to talk more soon
Night night. hope all is well.
JenjAM xx

Layla re: thrashing baby, yes finn has started doing it at the breast recently i was getting exasperated and then i worked out that for some reason he was getting loads of trapped wind, don't know why, maybe now he is a a bit bigger i'm holding him in a way that encourages wind

Tex - i bought a copy of eve! just read your article; you look great!

Rodeo the archangel michael shoul dhelp you find jess's coming home film. try asking him for help

well done all who are back in their pre-baby jeans. i'm still in my maternity jeans because they are so comfy, although i have lost half a stone. only 1 stone to go!!

i too karma know what finn wants much better than my dp, i'm always biting my lip and often coming right out and saying 'he likes this or he doesn't liek that....' its not good is it, but it is inevitable given that we are with our LOs all day while they are out trying to work out what their company, business, clients want from them. also get infuriated with questions like 'where do you put the clean muslins / bedsheets / towels ' grr..

p.s. finn has been trying to munch my shoulder...could this be teething? OOH i hope he has my teeth as james has some fine old carrot chompers

well night night

oh, and nova - have good hen night, hope you fully immerse. was also lovely to hear nat has taken to water so well - what swimming lessons are you doing i was thinking of doing 'little dippers' but it's rather expensive. be interested to hear who you are doing it with.

is there a northerners come south meet arranged at house of fraser, have i missed it or did i misread a message?>

right really must go to bed and do the 12.30 feed ...oh sh*t i think i'm late. damn thta routine

Had my first night out without babies last night. met up with a few other mumsnet girls for drinks and dinner.

Diege - I was very good and stuck to no-alcohol and syns free food, I think! I've lost a stone in 4 weeks. Think I will start going to a class where I can. Do you find them good?

JenJam - good to talk to you. Shame you could not make it last night. They are a really nice crowd.

I'm all for routines. I like being able to plan/organise my day. As you say, the trick is finding one that works for you.

Nova - you are good with the swimming lark. I'm quite happy to wait till mine are in primary school for all that. In fact I am secretly hoping primary school will teach them swimming so i don't have to bother at all!

My munchkins still wake every three hours at night, but they are not really hungry and just snack on a couple of ounces, so I've started letting them wait 5 hours at night before they get a feed, and that way they take the whole 6oz.

Errrrr, howls are so loud it wakes me - in bedroom across the corridor, DS1, bedroom next door, and sometimes DH in bedroom on next floor upstairs!

Londoner - Love the Tate Modern. It is just across the Thames/wobbly bridge from DS1s school, but I still only get there a handful of times a year.

Browniechick - soup sounds fab. Just the thing I need on my diet. Post the recipe. Good news on the nursery.

I found out that I get a 50% discount for twins in council run nurserys - but it takes ages to get a place, but I'm happy to wait a year now we have found a great nanny.

Nanny did her first stint on Wednesday. Twins have really taken to her with lots of smiles. And it was soooooooooooo nice to be buggy/baby free for a few hours.

Hi,

Good to hear all your news everyone.
JenJam it's good to have you back, you were missed, really enjoyed reading your post and love your hen weekend story and cannot be parted from my baby either. Finn could be teething, quite common at around 3 month mark, but they're also just thinking about and discovering their body too. Good luck at MIL...
Golden, what's that school, St.Pauls or something? Best school in London isn't it? I'm with you on the swimming front... can't stand swimming pools.... bah humbug eh. Evening out sounds bliss.
Rodeo, sounds like Jess is doing well, E is also similar size. Lol at Jess and her superman fist, it's so funny when they are astonished by their own body parts isn't it!
Brownie, soup sounds delicious.... move over Nigella.
Tex, saw Eve mag, great article, lovely picture, well done!
Rodeo, Twinkle, Diege - Have a lovely meet today!
To update you on Elizabeth, she's @13lbs and what I'd call a 'sunny' baby, she smiles at every opportunity, even at lampshades - you never know, they might say something- and she sleeps with her hands in the air so they're always freezing cold in the morning.. yes, she sleeps from 10-7 in her own bed. She loves music and sucks on her fingers in her bouncy chair while I dance around loading the dishwasher after the school run and she shouts and chats non-stop, it's hard to get a word in edgeways once she's started...... she sits up well (with support of course) with a very straight back and only gets thrown sideways if she smiles or turns her head, and she's pulling forward to sit up when she's in her bouncy chair too. A few times she's lost her temper recently, and she's really scary!.
Right, off to tidy up before the movies, have a great day all!

Just a quick one, I've got people putting in an alarm system today. I think I'm more stressed than I was before our little break!

Bob, just sent you an email. How about Monday for a coffee - 10am at Costa in Blackheath? Anyone else want to join us? Unfortunately, too much going on here to get out today.

Tex - I'll come too......

OOps, no I won't, it's half term. Good luck with the alarm thing.

Londoner - yes, DS1 is at St Pauls Cathedral School. It is good, but I think you are talking about the other St Pauls, the senior school in West London.

Oh, too bad Londoner. Yes, half term has snuck up on me too. I'll take Tobes with me on Monday but I guess that's quite different to taking four children. I must admit that you've inspired me to seriously consider having another baby. I was telling DH about you and how you have four children but are still so serene and maybe we should consider having another one. He said I couldn't see you anymore.

Glad you guys are getting a kick out of the Eve article. It was a lot of fun doing it. They did change some of what we said, for instance saying I worked in the bar when I didn't, and condensing the interview down but I guess that's just how these things go. Would definitely do it again but would wait longer after the birth!

Alarm men have just left. Off to sweep up the dust and finally tackle our mountain of laundry.

jenjam - we go to aquababies classes, think they run them in quite a few places. Be warned though, the people who answer the phones are useless. It's £60 for a 5 week course, and the courses run one after the other so you always get mix of stages.

A woman brought her 4 week old to Gymboree today so I was able to offer some support. it was the first time she'd taken him to a group and she was worried about him crying - bless! i pointed out that everyone in the class had a baby so we were very used to crying. As if to prove a point Nat then did a poo and spent the last 5 mins of the class in a grizzle. I gave her my number though as she wanted to find local new mums for coffee and chats. She reminded me a lot of me when Nat was first born.

Crossing my fingers that Nat is like Rodeos DS and doesn't start teething until she's older. Getting a bit too used to the night time routine now to start having it interfered with.

Looking forward to the weekend away - I'm happy leaving Nat if I know she's with DH, would feel a bit funny if it was with anyone else. I feel it's very important for DH to spend time alone with her, and he really loves it. He's already planning what he's going to be doing with her - ahhhhh

Afternoon,

Had a great time with Diege, Twinkle and S&Lsmum this lunchtime, wish I could have stayed longer! Did you guys buy anything nice? Thanks for today, it was brill to put faces to names, and you're all so lovely And the babies of course! Operation London next!

Jenjam, you are v. funny and yes, you were missed!

Londoner, agree with Tex, you are serene! E sounds adorable, is she still long?

Really must get Eve!

Right off to make tea and pray to St Michael (thanks Jen!)

Hi everyone! . Had a great time with Twinkle, Rodeo and Laylandsethsmum. Agree Rodeo that it's great to put faces to names, and to the baby's faces too! Little Jess has the sweetest expression, and I love the way she clings onto the pram hood ; Seth is a darling too, and so calm and collected! (and of course Twinkle knows I think Josh is adorable (the girls haven't stopped talking about 'Twinkle's baby' - the nappy changing particlarly fascinated them .
Well, in answer to your question RODEO we had quite an eventful afternoon after you and Laylandseth's mum left us ...we (well, I...) had sort of misjudged the time and before we knew it it was 2.30, with feeds and nappy changes to fit in, and me to get my train at 3.30..so we chilled and decided on a later train, and had a drink, few more shops (I am no longer a Lush virgin - you would be proud of me Nova ). By the time we reached the car, we had sort of missed the later train too, so poor Twinkle had to drive me TO MY DOOR!!!, and then all way back home . Hope you got back OK, and many , many thanks again. You are very kind . Funny how the time really does pass quickly when a combination of babies, good company,and shops!!!
Hi NOVA, hope you have a great weekend. Really sweet the way your DH is planning things to do with Nat..must melt your heart .
JENJAM: loved vivid description of hen night 'dorm'...can just imagine how you felt. LOL re: Gina F! confession. I am one of her faithful few, as it's what works best for me (though I don't allow it to dictate too much - ie I go outside the house outside of nap times!). Have been rewarded with 7 till 6.30 sleeps for last week, though she may have fitted into this regardless of routine of course...Just pleased with the extra sleep!
GOLDEN: A stone!! Wow!!!! It's really working for you!Congratulations! You must join a class, as you would have got a special sticker for losing a stone . Bet you look forward to your hour babies-less (in the nicest possible way of course!). Do you feel strange walking about without a buggy? .
LONDONER: Hope the film was good It did have good reviews. Funny, I was thinking the same as Tex about your 'serenity', and in the context of having 4 children too. May sound a bit odd, but when the girls are playing up, and I'm close to losing it, I often think 'what would Londoner do?', as your advice has always been spot on in the past, and you are always so calm . I have to admit to swimming pool phobia too...can't stand the stress of the children in changing rooms, wet clothes, plasters on floor..urghhh!!! Must get over this as it's so good for them....
Well, I'm going to tuck into my Millies cookies and sod the syns!!!
Diege and Liberty

Hi all, hectic here, havent read posts, skimmed through, Brownie-sent invite, i swear ive sent it several times already, either that or the stress of having two young children has finally sent me round the bend!

Diege - yes, I felt really pleased about losing a stone, till I remembered I had another two to go............

Morning girls, Hope you are all all right

Just a quick one from me as I've been up all night with Ben and a mystery illness, his temperature keeps spiking to well over 100 degrees, followed by hallucinations - lovely

Any suggestions as to what this could be as there appear to be no other symptoms would be greatly appreciated.

Rodeo go check your e-mail there's a surprise on it for you - won't spoil it by telling you what it is but it's lovely!!!

Right got to go back to my boys, have a great weekend all and I'll catch iup on the thread soon Beks

Morning all.

Rather of your meet-up. I feel a bit stuck out on a limb up here. I could always tag onto Twinkle on her trips up North!
Golden, I have to admit, your success is (almost) spurring me on to go back to SW. I shall have to order a new syns book as mine is well out of date.
Diege, lol at missing 2 trains! I can sympathise with you as those shops were to blame, enticing you in.
Nova, lol at Nat's well-timed poo.

Well, had a good long talk with HV yesterday, I'm lucky as she's a good one. Did the Edinburgh test & I scored 16/30 so I have to make an appt with my GP. Started taking St. John's Wort, rather not take a/d's again. I'm loads better than last time but I don't want let it creep up & bite me on the arse, metaphorically speaking.

On a lighter note, you MUST have a look at the "Is this how men cook"? thread in the chat section, if you haven't already. There's a hilarious link.