November 05 Babies

[Rodeo]

A new thread for us and our little 2, 3 and very nearly 4 month olds, where is the time going??!!

Ladies - I'm thinking about bedtimes. Mine go down at about 6ish. I'm exausted by then. What time do yours go to bed?

Beks - does Thomas go down after 10pm?

Golden - T goes to bed at 7pm, unless he is v tired earlier. Earliest he has gone to bed is 6:30 cos he fell asleep, so thought might as well put him in bed.
Have had concerns about his sight progress - he doesn't exactly follow objects with his eyes - I know he can see, cos he always looks towards the lights, and his face lights up when he sees you in the morning, and he watches his mobile. Do you think he could just be too busy with everything else around him? He is a nosey beggar!! Am thinking of mentioning it to HV at baby clinic this week or perhaps when have 2nd set of jabs tomorrow. Anyone elses LO's not foolow objects with eyes?
Thanks for wishes re Grandad - not sure when or if he'll be coming home At least he always knows we love him, cos we tell him every time we see him
Brownie & Thomas

Brownie, Is T following with his head? If he is I'm sure he's fine. I think it's quite difficult for babies to co-ordinate their eye movements. Try coming up behind him while he's on the bed and see if he can look upwards at you, these movements are easier than side to side HTH

Golden, Jess is usually off at 8 and sleeps til 9am (although not straight through of course! Wakes for anything from 2-4 times for milk)

Aw at Beks T smiling at penguin clock! How cute!

Right suppose I'd better start getting ready for Keep-Fit. Aaarrgghh! The class is called 'Triple Challenge' - Gulp!

Alfie goes down now at 8.45pm and sleeps through(without any feeds) until between 5-8am!!!yay!

ooh Rodeo, good luck with the triple challenge! (not that you need much slimming down by the look of you!). First thing I thought of when you mentioned 'triple challenge' was some kind of pizza deal with lots of cheese- you can tell I've got my weigh-in tonight! Congrats on the swimming front! wow, [admiring emotion]good on Jess, and you! Our pool is frezzing, so between that and the veruca-infested plasters, you're not getting us anywhere near it . LOL about knocking them on door frames...thought it was just me .Also, penny has finally dropped about 'George' (as in Clooney!!)
Hold on in there with half-term BEKS - only another 4 days to go ; shouldn't laugh as it will be my turn next week!
GOLDEN: re: bedtimes, it varies with us between 6.15 and 7, the earlier if she just falls asleep. Have noticed no difference in length of time she sleeps if I push it till 7, or even later, so usually settle with 6.30. Have you been 'syning'much BTW? - have brought my bathroom scales downstairs to see if I weigh any less on the laminate ; am going to have to be resigned to 'maintaining' weight this week I think,unless I can manage a miracle between now and 7. It's all TWINKLES fault for forcing me to buy those millie's cookies in the MH! .
BROWNIE: I think the following with eyes is pretty sporadic at this age. Had a bit of a panic with Libby after her collisin this weekend, and had this worry that she might have damaged her eyesight (yes, I know, ridiculous...). Several times she didn't follow at all, and then when it suited her, she did. Have given up worrying! Think if they get the 'red reflex' when dr. shines light in eye, at about 6 weeks?) things are ok anyway .
Well, have had a whingy baby all afternoon. She's now in her battery -operated swing, and looking stonily at Noel Edmunds on DND. Going to stand on scales again...
Diege and Libby

yess!! half a pound off!! with a few more wees, I'm laughing !!!

Diege, try having a poo & you'll be well on your way!!

Brownie - one of mine does not track with eyes either, but he def. can see what is going on.

Thanks for all the info on bedtimes. Would love to put mine to bed a bit later, but they get so moany late afternoon/early evening.

Diege - well done on the 1/2lb. Hurt my back, so I've not been doing my exercise, but have managed to keep to the SW diet (broadly) but don't expect major weight loss this week. I seem to lose weight every other week???

I have two ladies from my twins group coming over this week - will have six babies in the house, all under 5 months! DS1 (aged 10) is disgusted...........

Thanks for putting my mind at rest guys - DH said he has seen him track with eyes, and I have seen him do it once or twice, but most oft he time he seems to busy looking at everything else that's going on! If you hold him on your shoulder and move around, his eyes stay fixed on what he was looking at originally - so I am thinking that he can see fine - he also quite likes watching the telly and the fish in the fish tank!!
We have our second lot of jabs tomorrow his first valentines day, and he gets stabbed with two needles!
We are also going to visit the nursery this week - I may feel another teary moment
ANyway, am going to have a shower before I watch Prison Break - ooh yummy men!!!!!!

Brownie& Thomas

Evening.

DP at work so I have been on here for most of the day. Also consumed a whole bar of chocolate which I reckon will boost my serotonin levels no end. Spent most of this morning crying & DP can't figure out why. I keep telling him that I don't know either. He's worried that I don't want to be with him but that couldn't be further from the truth. Its that old Men Are From Mars thing.... men want to feel useful & we just want to feel understood.

Enough wallowing for now. How are you all?

Golden, I feel sorry for your DS1!! I hope they don't all cry together.

Brownie, Thomas sounds fine. Good luck with the Nursery visit.

Diege & Golden, how is the SW going? I REALLY must get organised. I'm trying to remember what to buy. I seemed to live on cheese & tomato ravioli last time. Oh, & lots of quorn. What kind of stuff are you eating?

Rodeo, wow! Keep fit? Don't you get enough exercise with the kids?

Nova, sounds like you had a great time, I admire your stamina. One glass of wine & I'm ready for bed.

Beksmum, LOL at your talk to Thomas! I can imagine the screaming must really get you down. Do you take it in turns to do the pacing or do you find you get the best results? I always do the pacifying now that Ella "knows" who I am & responds better to me. Its nice in one way but rather tiring. BTW, hows Ben?

Is anyone else watching the Bodyshock programme about Progeria? God, its awful.

Hello girls,

A bit of free time while mum plays with the LO. It's v.motivating to hear about all your diets, I seem to be eating more and more. I do walk a lot but end up popping into the bakery en route (a little reward for the long walk) so am probably doing myself no favours. I hate diets! What exactly are you all doing to lose weight? I need to lose two stone or more Can't believe I was a size 10 when I got married.

I am also thinking of trying for a second baby but I believe i'll have to wait until I stop b/f him. Is that right? At present I am still b/f every two-three hours but am giving him a top up of 2oz four times a day now. Has certainly gone up, he seems to be getting hungrier as each day passes. Am wondering if 3oz is okay for a top up before bedtime, shall check with H/V tomorrow but would like to know what you think.

As for sleeping Z has his last feed at 11.30pm and sleeps until 7am, sometimes straight through and sometimes wakes inbetween for a feed. It is a long day but guarantees that I get a good night's sleep - I'm wondering when I can try to put him down earlier, just worried that If i do that now he'll be awake and ready to play in the early hours Would like to try it soon though. Again, what do you think?

Left Z's nappy off for a while this evening and let him play on his changing mat. Bad idea! Was covered in wee.

My mum's DH pushed the pram up a hill for me today while I walked behind talking to mum. As I saw the pram disappear over the hill I got very upset and emotional and demanded that he wait until we got nearer . Mum said it was normal to feel that way but that I need to stop panicking when he's with someone else. Felt totally protective, wasn't in my hands, am I a bit OTT?!? I don't know where all this love is coming from, it's a tad overwhelming. I fear that I am going to squeeze the life out of him with the love I have. When he wakes in the morning I stand looking at him, he stretches and looks up at me with the biggest heart melting smile I've ever seen, he goohs and gahs, chuckles, smiles and is just the light of my life (pls feel free to puke over your keyboards if this is too much or remind me gently when I'm having a crap day). I really had to share that, it's one of the reasons why I am spending less time on the net, I can't get enough of him right now, every minute is sooo precious. But don't get me wrong, there are as many lows as there are highs... I've just had a really great week or so with him and the amount of sleep i'm getting makes all the difference.

Okay tell me to shut-up now. But thanks. After reading the lovely things you all have to say about your LO's felt I could do the same.

Will pee of now and wash my hair. xx

Sorry, seems that when i post, i really post....

Evening! Well, the supposed 'half pound' disappeared again and I had 'maintained' at SW weigh-in. Should have taken your advice Karma !!! Hope the weepiness has passed a little, though remember how it was when i had pnd with DD2; would it be worth the HV having a word with your DP?
BTW, re: SW food, i'm veggie (ish) so lots of quorn. Since I did it last it's changed a bit - the cheese and tomato ravioli is now 4 sins, rather than 'free' (to discourage reliance on processed food); I, too used to live on this ) not any more!
Good luck with jabs and nursery visit Brownie! I have my form for nursery to fill in, but am still waiting to hear back from work about my dates. Feel sick when I think about it,but know it's inevitable and from dds experineces that nursery can be good, even for babies .
Saw the progeria programme - very harowing; can't believe how brave those kids were .
Hope the class went well RODEO and that you can move tommorrow!!.
Well, popping work tommorrow to collect some files I need for some work I'm doing. Feeling very nervous, which I know is ridiculous ,but it will feel soooo strange going back to my office! (wish I'd tidied it now before I left!)Me and DH are then going out to Chester for the day, so something to look forward to!
Well, time for bed!
Diege

Ahh, Chacha, what a lovely post! Your feelings are absolutely normal - no wonder you want another . With dd1 I breast-fed for 6 months, and got pregnant with dd2 the month I stopped (planned believe it or not !)Are you planning a small gap then?
I would say a 3oz top-up is fine. Your sleep routine sounds similar to mine. I put Libby to bed at 6.30 then wake at 11 for top-up (4-6 ozs). Is Zayn awake until his 11.30 feed? Could you try putting him down earlier then waking for last feed? Just an idea?
Well, better get the last feed done!

4 syns!!! Oh bugger...

awwwwwwww. i wouldnt worry, dont forget that we have the youngest babies on this thread so they may not be as advanced as some of the others as theyre a few weeks younger-you may find that in the next few weeks he starts wanting to settle a little earlier and a little earlier, until its a respectable 7/8/9pm...... alfie was 11pm, then went to 10pm, then 9.30pm and is currently going down at 8.45pm.......but remember the all do things at there own pace, ds1 was 8wks when he started going 7pm-7am so alfies nearly caught up at 11wks.........
As for not trying for anougher baby until stopping b/f-who told you that?? what c**p! you could start trying as soon as you want, the only thing is when b/feeding is that if you are one of those that doesnt have periods whilst b/fing, you wont know if youre ovulating/when your ovulating so it'll be that much more difficult to know when you can concieve.......how long are you planning to b/feed?
What made you do the top-ups? was it the constant feeding? alfies just stopped that so much now and has got some sort of feeding pattern now-thankgod! but the evenings were the worst deffo. I top up 4oz at the 8.30pm feed just before he goes down.
Im sure 3oz for Z is fine, if he doesnt want it, he wont drink it/or it'll come back up!
lol at the "protectiveness" always with your first-you get a bit more laid back with + children lol

IMHO I still think(take no notice) that you wont know what your letting yourself in for if you try for anougher one this soon! The first year is full of new things and things to master-weaning/seperation anxiety..... etc etc I know I wouldnt be able to cope with pregnancy/sickness etc etc with a under 1 yr old!

gd luck with whatever you decide....

With the potty thing -,I just thought it'd be fun to try, and it only took a few secs!

Brownie - mine was the same with not following stuff, but yesterday I tried laying him on the sofa next to me, on his back, and then put a toy above him and got myselfmore out of his eyesight and it worked then.

Golden - mine goes down at 7pm.

ChaCha - I don't think you are overprotective - I am the same. After all someone needs to be looking out for them! He's the light of my life too- DH asked me last night if I loved him more - what a question!

Busy - doesn't bfing tend to have a contraceptive effect? I would like to try for another ASAP as DH getting on a bit, but don't know if I should stop bfing at 6 mths cos isn't it better for them to keep it up for a year? I wonder if you do the temperature thing (nayural fam. planning) if you could tell when you're ovulating?

Haven't had a chance to read through the thread yet. Just wondering if anyone has heard from BoB? I rang her yesterday but haven't heard anything and haven't seen her online. Wondered if she was away this week or something.

BoB, wherever you are, hope all is well!

Karma

It takes about a week to get into your system and although it doesn't take everything away it does make you feel a lot calmer (sorry excuse the pun)

The other thing to get is Bachs Rescue Rememdy that works straight away with just a couple of drops on your tongue - doesn't taste too great but seems to work.

I'll cat you my telephone number so if you want to chat just give me a call.

Yep screaming drives me batty but we take it inturns to walk him around as it kills yuo back 'cos he's such a little sumo

I do get the best results though so when it has finally got to me I take him off dh just to shut them both up .

Golden Thomas goes down between 10 and 11pm but sleeps right through till about 7:30 - 8:00am. I know this sounds a bit wicked but I am not an early riser and am as grumpy as hell if I have to get up early

Don't worry I'm not really a cruel mummy he does have a sleep at about 7pm for an hour and then wakes up and plays with or torments his dad for an hour or so!!!

Do the other LO's still sleep alot during the day?

Thomas gets up in the morning has his feed then will either stay awake for an hour then go back to sleep or otherwise just go straight back to sleep after his feed, then he will have another sleep of 2-3 hours at some point during the day plus the hour at night and a full nights sleep.

Believe me I'm not complaining about this but I just wondered if it's just that he takes after me and loves his sleep!!!

Ben is now much better thanks everyone, although they both appear to have another cold - how did I end up with a house full of men!!!

Tex - Does Toby still want to come to Ben's B'Day party? If he does I'll Cat you the details or send you an invite, which ever you prefer. Beks

hi all,

i've been really busy. we are going to a wedding on saturday, so I decided to make myself a dress, which was a great success so then I have designed and started putting together various skirts , tops etc which i hope to sell.
there is a shop in greenwich that bought a few dresses from me when i was at uni, they paid £30 each, and it only costs me a few pounds to make, so it could be a nice thing to do while oskar naps.
i'll post some pics when they are done and you can all tell me how much my skills are worth..teehee

beks, we used to put oskar to bed really late too, as i also really need my sleep! but he has settled himself into a routine now. he will generally doze off at about 7ish, after a bath, a bottle, a bit of playing and being shown off on the webcam to our family..hehe..
then he wakes at 11 for another bottle and a half hour or so of cooing and sleeps through til 7/8.
he tends to have a three hour sleep mid afternoon, and little dozes inbetween, but when he's awake he really makes his prescense known! if i'm in the room doing something other than entertaining him he'll do an angry little shout and looks really indignant...lol..

chacha, thats so lovely! glad you are really appreciating the good times and taking everything in. it's surprising how quickly they change, i find myself sometimes a little nostalgic for o's tiny newborn days, but it's also so great watching him discover new things and develop his own personality.

tex- just got your message..i'm rubbish at cheking our answerphone..lol!

i don't know how you slimmers have the willpower..i have developed a bad habit of grabbing a chocolate bar or big lump of cheese for lunch when i'm too busy/lazy to make anything better..teehee. i'm getting good at ignoring the 'baby belly' it's almost none existant if i stand up straight and suck it in so thats good enough for me. hehee

Good Morning! Happy Valentines Day!

Anyone got more than 1 card? I might make ds make me one later just so I can say I've got 2! I got taken out for a surprise meal last night too which was great

Bloody hell, I ache today! But it's mostly my leg, maybe aerobics isn't the best idea for it (I've got a tibial rod through my shin bone from knee to ankle) I don't realise I've got it most of the time but I do today! Never mind!

Chacha, Glad to hear you are doing so well

To all of those wanting another baby now, it's really common to get very broody from 3-9 months because they get quite easy to look after and so adorable, but remember a lot of this is your motherly hormones! The reality of it would probably be much different (and a lot of hard work) to the romantic notion we may have, maybe you could could borrow a young toddler (12-18 months) and test it out. I did this when Bella was 12 months (I looked after a newborn and only for a couple of hours!!) and it really put me off having them that close. Also my HV told me the incidence of PND does go up after a small age gap.

Sorry to sound so negative, but they are my views, I know there is no perfect age gap, but when the older child has a basic understanding and grasp on language it's a lot easier to manage. Also the older one may be getting some time in nursery which will give you more one to one time with the new baby

Diege may not agree with me I'd hate to offend anyone so ignore me if you think I'm talking rubbish!!

Have a lovely day Diege, I love Chester!

x x x

Hi, Happy Valentine's Day ,

Thanks for your divine compliments Tex, Rodeo and Diege, wow, I'm pretty bowled over thank you!
Glad you had a great meet up girls, sounds like you all had fun! Love the vision off little Jess clinging to her pram hood. Millie's Cookies eh, mmmmmmmm ....
Diege how did the cinema go? What did you see?
Rodeo, E isn't particularly long these days I don't think, although tex's Rosie is with supermodel legs! How's your Gran, did your visit go okay? ....and the keep fit......did you manage it?
BoB, would love to see your designs, clever you, they sound
gorg. what a great way to bring in the cash, although I don't know how you manage it while looking after Oskar.
BEKs, sorry to hear you're having a tough time of it with Ben poorly and all the rest....... any time you fancy a stroll in Greenwich park with a packed lunch just CAT me, I'm always up for a bit of fresh air and daylight tonic. Well done on the weaning by the way, sounds like Thomas was ready for it.
Karma - sorry to hear you're struggling, you poor thing, it must be such an uphill struggle feeling like that at a time when you imagine you're supposed to be feeling so wonderful...
Brownie- glad to hear your visit to your Grandad went well.
LilJ hope the BCG went okay? Have a great time in Geneva!()
Beartime lol @ potty situation, know what you mean though.
Golden - E goes to sleep from @ 10-7.
ChaCha - lovely to hear your news. Feel same way as you if I can't see my kids... but not as bad as that weird woman on American wife swap...did you hear about her?....not that I watch that kind of trash or anything...
Right, must go and change a nappy.....byeeeee....

Hurray for helping hands, do not feel so guilty about logging on today.

Busy - Yes, you are right and thanks for the great reply. I sometimes forget that Z is only just 10weeks old. His routine is working really well so will just wait and see if he starts to settle earlier himself, thanks for the reminder.
Thanks again for info on conception and b/f - just goes to show, I had no idea. I will b/f for as long as I can. Mixed feeding is working really well for us. I decided to do the top ups after almost 2 months of feeling thoroughly exhausted with solely b/f particularly with those night time feeds. The top ups are great.
By the way, I gave him 3oz at bedtime last night and when winding him he put his 'sleepy head' face on my shoulder, looked up at me in that milky drunk mode and fell fast asleep until 7.30 this morning Definitely a good move!!

Have taken on board advice given by yourself and Rodeo on baby number two. DH believes that Z needs his own time before trying for another and would be unfair on him to get pregnant during his first year. On thought, I do agree with what you're saying Rodeo, the colicky few weeks I first had with him, the non stop b/f etc.. seem a distant memory now that I'm enjoying him so much. It was and still is hard work, must keep reminding myself before the motherly hormones take over. Ta x