October 2011 - Let the poo obsession begin

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Come chat, moan, boast (by stealth of course), vent, rage, relax, worry and be reassured. Welcome to all the new babies. Stats thread here

it's good that Dh was able to tell them Engel and I'm not at all jealous of 3-4 hours. Don't think of it as still, that's the normal amount.

Mind you DS did two 3 hour blocks between feeds and it made a massive difference, feel like I've slept for once. Really glad as it took until midnight to get him sleeping.

bb3 hope you get a relaxing afternoon and your family stop being annoying.

engels my DP is struggling with noise from LO too but I'm not sure about him being in a separate room so young. How many weeks is max now? Do you have a monitor?

I struggled initially with DDs noise, but it does quieten down/you get used to it.

Today I ended up feeding DS in waitrose but they didn't have a toilet or changing room, so there I was displayed in big window at the front as that's where they had a seat. It was next to the park we went to but a bit conscious of feeding DS outside as I worry about him getting cold. What do other people feel about that or am I being a bit precious? Normally since he's in the sling he doesn't have a lot of clothes on, if it wasn't for the rain today I think I might have done as he was in the pram and hence also a snowsuit.

Dh sleeps on sofa here. It's especially big and comfy and works well for us as by him having full night sleep he's better equipped to be helpful and better when he's at work. Did it with ds and was fine too. Also I'd worry more re cosleeping if dh in bed as he sleeps deeper

Awen - I hope Leo is soon sleeping as well as Jessica! How old is your ds2?

Hello ladies

My mood has improved ever so mildly. Just popped into town to get some video monitors for the twins (am going to try and put them upstairs after their 7-8 feed so ds gets a little bit of alone time).

engel have very funny images of your fil peering through blinds but also very naughty of him. I too didn't have any stretch marks and then woke up morning after section to see a roadmap on my tummy where they had to pull me around alot!! I spent a fortune on oils and creams for nothing xx

I am actually truly Knackered at the moment - girls are feeding every 2 hours through the night but they are out of sync again so I'm having 20-30 minute blocks of sleep and my boobs feel completely drained! Im lucky to have so much help but dh is working really long hours and I miss him a lot.

Also (and this is such a tiny thing) but I've been so looking forward to having my hair coloured and cut post pregnancy and phoned up the salon I go to in London today as I'm up twice in next two weeks for dinner things and the bloody place has shut down!) now I've got to find somewhere new!!! Grr my stylist has gone solo and is charging double what I paid before and I cannot justify over £200 on a cut and colour!!! Anyway rant over x

engel i now also have stretch marks (on my tummy) where i didn't for my whole pregnancy! i dont understand how that happened.... i am now back on the bio oil to see if it helps

things are generally good with me - J went through his 3 week growth spurt and was feeding almost constantly. i think he is though it now, although he is still unsettled. he does tend to sleep for 3 hour blocks in the night which is amazing, but he is awake most of the day so i worry that he isn't getting enough sleep.

unfortunately i think my milk is drying out - the amounts i now get from expressing barely cover the bottom of the bottle. tally i can image how you must have felt when your milk was thrown away. i get upset when i feed J it and he throws most of it back up.

i have been using infacol for over a week now - i think it helps although it is hard to say. the MW recommended it - she did say you have to use it before every feed, and it can take up to a week to work (it generally takes at least a few days) so dont judge it too soon. i have heard the worst it can be is harmless so i figure it is worth a go - anything to stop his little face screwed up with pain from wind!

Hey dearies,

Hope you're all doing well - I'm jumping on here without having read the rest of the thread. I'll get round to catching up sometime, but it seemed too daunting a prospect to tackle 12 pages at the moment!

So I'm going to ask something that may already have been discussed in the thread - has anyone else had any luck dealing with an initially god-awful latch? DD is now 8 days old, she has real difficulty getting on and staying on there, and my nipples are a damn mess. It's got to the point where they just hurt all the time - not even just when feeding (although that feels like being stabbed with hot needles). She wriggles and cries a LOT when I try to latch her on, so it feels like it's all hit and miss, rather than the ideal that all the videos seem to show. Oh yes, and she hasn't had a shit since Thursday night (plenty of wet nappies, though).

Three separate midwives and a BF advisor gave me advice in the hospital, as well as the MWs on home visits, so I'm feeling pretty desperate that I still haven't managed to get it right. I feel like I've spent half of the last week just blubbing pathetically because I'm worried that I'm starving her! :(

Hi babcnesbitt - I am in the middle of bedtime, but just wanted to say if you scroll down I describe similar problems and how I fixed dd's latch after 5 weeks of pain (I am very stubborn!) - I have now been feeding for a week with no pain so it is possible to heal. Also - check her mouth for thrush as the mw described that to me as being like stabbing needles (but you can't tell easily from yourself - it will often show in baby's mouth)).

Max is three and a half weeks pebble. His room's right next door and we do have a monitor. I feel much more relaxed now that he's not in with us. I was having anxiety dreams when he was sleeping in our room. DH woke up and I was sitting up in bed, rocking and saying "there, there". He asked me what i was doing...
"er, feeding the baby."
"No, Max is in his cot..." At which point I woke up!

I used to talk in my sleep and on occasion sleepwalk when I got anxious or stressed, but it's been 4 years (when I moved abroad) since I've done it so badly. Last week I was waking myself up, "rocking" the duvet to sleep! All disappeared since Max has gone in his room and he's been sleeping really well too. And same here Awen DH is also much more helpful when he gets more sleep!

Yep emmazed am also back on the bio-oil...had much more time, energy and inclination to spend time on moisturising before Max arrived!

Thanks, cheeky - it's good to know that it can be sorted out.

bab it took about three weeks for me to be able to feed A on my right side without pain and drama, it was getting to the point when I wanted to give up totally on that side. It got better after he put on weight as I could position him better, and now at 5 weeks it makes little difference which side I use

engel I am having anxiety dreams too! I woke dh up the other night saying 'where's the baby?' and he was like 'in his bed' I've had a few of those, ug

it was a BF cafe that sorted out our latch

Nab on poo thing, I had that with ds's I remember. I nursed in bath and they poo'd. Was messy but did seem to help.

Jnice - ds1 is 11 and ds2 3 (4 at Xmas).

Ds2 finding it hard and I feel so bad for him. Every time j nurses he looks crestfallen poor boy. Bedtime stuffed tonight as J was moaning, fussing and nursing and meant ds2 couldn't settle so dh had to look after him and he was not happy.

Having a really hard time tonight, has taken over an hour to try and get ds to sleep (usually lie with him till he falls asleep) but this is getting too difficult with new baby as well, so dh has now taken tough guy approach which I think is too soon to dd's arrival. Dh is putting him to bed "supernanny style" ds is screaming for me, mhairi is breastfeeding and I'm now in tears because ds is so upset.
feel like the worst mother ever and like we have had mhairi before ds is old enough!

Edward (hug) does seem too soon for ds. Your ds us similar age toy ds2 iirc? Can you lie with him while nursing m? Xx

Dh gave in and lay with him, he's now asleep, I can't take M in as we need to pretend we're asleep before he'll go to sleep!
I have said to dh that we can do his way in a month or so once we're all used to M

Glad he settled (with cuddles ) I couldn't lay with Sam tonight because J was being so noisy. We lay quietly like we are asleep too so understand. He asked for Jessica to go back inside my tummy today lol

BabC - just a quick message while feeding L. His latch was terrible when he eventually learned, I saw a LC who helped, basically he wasn't opening wide enough. I tickle his chin with nipple, then only when he opens really wide do I latch him on. It sometimes helps to have someone hold his upper arm as it gets in te way. I had to hold my boob so that the nipple was pointing towards the roof of his mouth, really squish it into the right shape for him.

After a lot of persistence he has got it now, no more pain! He's 17 days.

Be sure to apply lanolin cream after every feed.

Edward - I feel for you. We had to do the supernanny style thing with DD when she was about 18 months. She'd got so that she would only go to sleep at night if we pushed her in the pram, with the extractor from the oven on for white noise (Rod for our own back?!) It could take up to an hour, we'd then have to carefully carry her to bed half an hour later.

The first night we tried just putting her in her cot it took 40 minutes of her crying, we went in after 2 minutes, then 5 minutes, then 10... the 2nd night it took 20 minutes for her to fall asleep, the 3rd night 5 minutes, and she's been a dream at bedtime ever since, and we're all much happier for it.
So when you do decide to try again, have faith, it's horrible at the time, but it can work really quickly and it is worth it. Hopefully we won't create that situation again with Seth.

I've got the HV coming tomorrow, but I'm seriously considering cancelling as there's a BFing group and I could really do with some advice. Feeding is still uncomfortable, not agony, but not right.

I went to an NCT group at Ikea today, then walked round after. I ache now. Seth was in the sling, I got so many comments and curious looks. He woke to be fed once but slept the rest of the time. I just need to remember it's 6 months since I've walked any distnce and I should take it a bit easier.

Morning.
edward hope DS was alright last night.
Managed slightly more sleep last night but only by having E sleep in bed with me, he wont settle in his Moses basket at all. Not sure if it's the wind making him not want to lie flat or something else. Should I be trying to make him sleep in it? Not sure if Infacol is having an effect yet...

Last night was hell to start with. J was unsettled from 7pm-1am. Projectile poo before settled. She cried so much . She ended up sleeping till 7ish so she must have been exhausted, hope u all had better time xx

Little pebble - have you tried tilting the Moses basket? Helps a lot for both wind and reflux. If you have a stand then put books under one end or if not put something under one end of the mattress (like a folded blanket) - they find it easier to settle on a slope.

Also - forgot - if you are holding upright for half an hour after feeds and putting him down asleep he might be finding it cold - my friend swore by putting a hot water bottle in the basket while she was feeding them obviously taking it out when putting baby down. I didn't try that (too much faff!) but did find a grobag helped keep the warmth so that being put down didn't seem as bad.

Or probably easier to keep him in your bed!