October 2011 - Let the poo obsession begin

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Come chat, moan, boast (by stealth of course), vent, rage, relax, worry and be reassured. Welcome to all the new babies. Stats thread here

Hi all, been following everything but not getting chance to post.

BB3 - sorry to hear about ayse-rose's heart murmur - I hope she grows out of it as they say. Also hope you are getting some peace from too many visitors.

Little pebble - hope you managed some sleep last night.

Hand dived - I can provide positive bf pain recovery story! I bf my ds last time for 9 months with no latch problem or pain (supply problems aplenty initially though!). This time round with dd it was painful from day two onwards. All the midwives I asked in the hospital said she was latched on fine, as did hv. They said I would toughen up eventually. Well - after 4 weeks the cracks healed but it was still painful so I went to the bf clinic again (3rd time lucky) and a lovely mw spent ages with me watching her feed and correcting her latch. For me it was the problem that milk was coming out so easily that she didn't need to latch properly, and was clamping down. I was trying to correct but putting her too centrally on my nipple - her bottom lip needed to be much lower and the top lip didn't need to be much above the nipple at all. That was 5 days ago and it has hardly ever hurt since - she is still lazy at times and has the odd bad feed but compared to a week ago it is bliss. I only persevered because I knew it cd not hurt as it didn't with my ds so please don't feel bad that you are struggling. It is amazing that you are expressing and keeping going when it is so hard.

Last thing (sorry for mammoth post) - we too are struggling with major wind and possible reflux (which my ds had as well!) - we are finding infacol helps and also holding dd upright for 25 minutes after every feed.

Sorry to hear about the tiger stripes Penguin

I am trying my first day without any caffeine since Poppy turned up, so far it has been okay, not sure how many days I can last though . She has been sleeping terribly the last couple of nights and I read yesterday that you should drink no more than 2 cups of caffeine drink a day if bf. I figured it is worth a go, might help her stop being so sick too as that is a recent thing -we are on our third outfit so far today!

cheekydino - thanks for your story. That might actually be the same problem I have. My milk just spills out tbh! Of course NCT person rang back just as guests arrived. Grrr. Will ring again tomorrow! Also will try LLL and a private consultant tomorrow as Penguin suggests. I really really want this to work and I feel better just by trying to get something done about it rather than suffering alone!

Didn't know that about caffeine Cheshire. Bugger - after 9 months I am finally enjoying cups of tea again!

oh they healed a few weeks ago. My problem (after a BF cafe visit on day 3) was I brought my breast to him a bit instead of putting him to me. We've cracked feeding from both sides whilst laying down and not turning over IYSWIM, although then had to rework latch for that position. We're getting there on feeding without turning on a side lamp, I'd say about 50:50 as he bobs around too much and then misses it

cheeky glad to hear it's almost there for you

chesire I tried just one day also without soy milk then decided it didn't make enough difference. I should try again for longer than 24 hours

Handdived... I'm also having bf'ing problems, although slightly different by the sounds of it. I don't have enough milk and so he is not satisfied and still hungry after ages feeding. Also he is a little wriggler and tends to jerk his head back while still latched, which really hurts. After an hour or so I am sore and he is still hungry so we end up back on formula. Sometimes he latches on perfectly first time and sometimes he takes ages and gets really frustrated and we have to give up. All the mw's etc who'd looked say he's doing it properly and he must be getting something but we're having to rely on formula and the endless cycle of sterilising and making up bottles. Although DH loves feeding him.

I am trying to express as well but only getting about 10-30ml per time. It didn't help that my SiL came over today and thought she'd clear up a bit while we were at the clinic and threw out about 30ml of expressed milk that I'd spent ages getting out. I know she felt bad about it but I felt like crying and had to go into the kitchen for ages to calm down.

tally we all feel like crying when expressed milk is wasted somehow. Again if you can see someone more qualified than a MW I would.

handdived I wanted to say it's admirable that you've got so many resources lined up already. Even if there is a simple plan that works it probably will be a bumpy ride and you could do with them all for hand holding and nudging.

Tally I have been trying to express this weekend and only managed to get a poxy couple of ml today for DH to try and see Poppy will take a bottle just sometimes so I can pop out etc, I would be devastated if someone threw it away. When I read your post I thought I am not surprised you wanted to cry.

Does anyone elses day just run away with them? I got to Aldi for fruit this morning but have not actually been able to put it away, nor walk the dog because everytime I put P in her basket she kicks off, yet if I hold her she is very happy to go to sleep, cheeky monkey! Now Ihave sick inside my bra too and an unclean house. Please tell me your days are as disastrous as mine :(

Oh and the lack of caffeine didn't work last night as P woke up every 90 mins-2 hours! I will continue with the theory for a bit longer though.

Cheshire don't worry, I am only organised (ish) because dh has not gone back to work yet so there are two of us. Not sure what will happen from next week - I will report back then! And yes our days rush past too. One day last week I didn't even manage to get dressed and a couple of days I only managed it about 4pm!

Have you tried putting P in a sling or carrier?

Seb threw up all over me in a spectacular fashion while one of the NCT girls was here, lol.

My days completely run away with me! Seems like the morning is fine and then suddenly it's lunchtime then 4pm and I've not done anything - then it's dinner time, bath and bed. Then it starts all over again...

cheshire I wondered about the caffeine I am drinking, but having experimented a bit (including one very tired day when I drank loads - 4 drinks) it doesn't seem to be making a difference as Amotai slept really well the next two nights. I am trying to cut back on dairy to see if that helps too but it's hard to tell. Reflux is fine during the day, but he gets really distressed at night, especially when I put him down the first time. Although, maybe it is just bad wind, I am yet to understand the difference although he does make painful sounding noises from his throat.

And my days get away from me too! I haven't posted much recently although am still reading, as he likes sitting with me while I am at the computer (the rocking of the computer chair makes him sleepy as well) so am reduced to typing with one hand most of the time.

I tried a front pack to carry him in the other day, I don't think it would be that good for a long period as is hard on the back but it did send him to sleep.

J is finding night time hard too, usually the 11pm feed which drags on as she can't settle. Wind too I think. She's had really bad evening today inconsolable for ages and I think she was past tired as her brothers woke her several times, asleep now tho on me and I daren't move. Goodness knows how I'm going to manage next week when dh back at work.

I also lose track of time, days go by in a blur of BFing and MN. Although now I'm getting to grips with the sling it might get easier. Haven't sussed out feeding in the sling yet, his latch can still be troublesome so we need to sort that out first. Today I took DD to school, spent the rest of the morning feeding Seth, had a sleep, cleaned up where the cat wee'd on the floor! (He's scared of the cold & fireworks. Thankfully it's laminate.) Fed, fed, fed... and now it's bedtime.

I think the HV is coming tomorrow, if not I'm going to go to the NCT coffee morning and hope the BF counsellor is there, then off to a sling meet on Thursday...that's the pkan anyway.

For babies with Colic, Infacol was a godsend with DD. It was all the fresh orange ~I was drinking that made hers worse. Seth still seems okay, gets a bit windy, but generally trumps it out!

Today I've resorted to a dummy. He likes to nuzzle himself to sleep... and I like to eat my tea without dropping crumbs all over him. :) I just have to stop DD from constantly putting it back in even if he's happy.

Hi October mums and babes, I'm hoping I can join (or rejoin) the bus. I posted back when I was pregnant but couldnt keep up with the pace here! Hoping now I'm off work I will manage it.

I'm from the UK but lived in Canada the past 7 years. I tried north american forums but still feel I have much more in common with you mums. Please forgive me if I say 'diaper' or 'mom' etc

Leo arrived on oct 22 an has two older brothers age 4 and 8.

Looking forward to chatting!

I do have a sling but even though it's supposed to be for newborn she was too small when we first tried it and disappeared in to it all scrunched up, I was going to try again this week as she is bigger and feels a bit more robust now so we shall see.

Today I am supposed to be house viewing and going to the vet, I am hoping P keeps quiet whilst 7 stone of dog gets jabbed!

The good thing about me often not getting time for a wee is at least I know the exercises down there must be working .

Haven't posted recently because....the days get away from me as well! I am keeping on top of the washing but other than that I don't manage to get anything done. DH is back at work now but still being wonderful.

DD is also a windy baby but it's only at night time that it seems to be a problem and she just won't settle. I was in floods of tears at 2am as she wouldn't stop crying so I feel like utter crap at the moment.

MrsP81 - I'm having bad nights too, seems like a permanent cycle of feed, burping Leo, laying him down, waiting 5 mins for him to start squirming, he spits up then we're back to step 1 again. He only sleeps for longer periods (3 hrs) in bed with me. He's just over 2 wks old.

It's funny - I can't remember what it was like with my other 2 boys - and if it was like this how long it took to improve

We also had a bad night last night. Seb must be going through a growth spurt (is that possible? he's 12 days old today) as he barely stopped eating yesterday and last night but has been a bit sicky and not settled much last night. We took it in turns and I've just sent dh to bed. Came down and he was asleep on the sofa with Seb in his basket on the floor, finally asleep. We were just thinking that he was being OK at night! I was up with him until about 1, then he was asleep until about 4:30, then that was it until about 45 mins ago. If this happens when dh goes back to work next week I can see me permanently moving into the spare room/nursery with Seb. And dying from lack of sleep!

Welcome Jnice

will post later when DS feels like sleeping or just not crying

Hello everyone, sounds like we're all experiencing fairly similar nights! I'm so tired I'm considering investing in some match sticks to prop my eyelids open.

I got about three hrs sleep on Sunday night and last night E fed all evening and all night!
DP woke at 1pm and found me still unable to get him to sleep, he tried rocking/ walking etc for an hour but we could not get him to settle in Moses basket, not even in bed either so told DP to go back to sleep. Eventually DP took him away at 5.30am and put him in sling and went for walk so I got 2.5hrs until I took him back at 8 but that's all I got all night
Think he might have wind so buying some infacol today to see if it helps but think it may be three week growth spurt as well as he's just feeding ALL the time!
Not doing anything today the house is a bomb site but I'm just too tired.
Hope you all have good days x

Not heard of Infacol, is it any good? Do you need to check with the doctor or hv first?

Stupid question but how do we know it is wind and nothing else? Sometimes he wants to feed so much (bottles, so we know how much he is having) and doesn't wind much at all.

You don't need to check with dr re infacol. I'd try them on it before one feed a day to see if it makes a difference. I used it for a whole day and we had an explosion in their pants all day. When the girls have wind we have taught tummies and legs tucked up by their tummy and out straight almost like they're climbing up me x

I'm very tired today and perilously close to losing my temper with my family I just want to lock myself away with the kids although that might drive me crazy too!

It's half way through the night here (4,20 am) and L just had his longest stretch of sleep from midnight to 4am, such a lovely surprise. It came after a bottle of 3.5oz ebm so I wonder if my milk is just running out as I get really tired.

Unfortunately DS2 woken twice during that time

I hope you all have good days with plenty of time to catch up on sleep!

Hello everyone.

Thanks for the feedback on when to move LO into baby room.

Moved the cot on Sunday and it's made so much difference. DH is getting more sleep and is therefore much less stressed out (half the time he doesn't even notice when I get up in the night!). Max is still waking every 3-4 hous overnight, though he managed one stretch of almost 5 hours last night

Managed to get through whole pregnancy with no stretch marks and all of a sudden have developed stripes on my boobs the last 2 days

Have had to have words with FIL. He and MIL were so good when I was on maternity leave at not popping over every 5 mins (they're our next door neighbours) but last week FIL kept popping round and finding the back door locked, pressed his face up against the glass to peer through the blinds into the lounge where I was either rocking Max to sleep or breast-feeding. I was not best pleased, he got a telling off from DH and hasn't been round since (too bloody right!).

Taking Max to get his photos done for his ID card this week... heading to the UK for Christmas - yay!

It's reassuring that we are all experiencing similar with babies, it must just be a phase and they are changing so fast and must be quite full on for them. Spent day out with dh, ds2 and Jessica. Lovely as went to soft play and then girlie clothes shopping for Jessica. Last night quite good in the end. Went up about 11pm nursed to sleep, up at 2 and 5 with no tears just change and feed. Tho ds2 woke at 5.30 as J was moaning throughput feed. She sleeps one side of me and ds2 the other. Won't sleep in cot.

Jnice - your leo was born same days as my Jessica x