October 2011 - Let the poo obsession begin

[PenguinArmy]

Come chat, moan, boast (by stealth of course), vent, rage, relax, worry and be reassured. Welcome to all the new babies. Stats thread here

Just starting the night shift here, it's 12.34am. I'm desperate for a good night, please behave boys!

Hope you all have very easy days...

Ugh. DH has just seriously upset me, I basically haven't slept since 4am yesterday, and he was trying to help me out. When you lay Leo down you have to hover for at least 10 mins to get him through the jolts etc and into deep sleep. So during this time left to get his iPhone. Of course now he's back on me comfort feeding, I shouted at DH and he's now back in the couch. I feel so desperate right now, I just desperately need to sleep

Oh Jnice I feel for you, hopefully he'll settle quickly and you'll be able to get some sleep.
cheeky thank you! Hadn't thought of grobag and I do have one... Will try that and tilted Moses basket tonight and see if that works
He is fast asleep in it now though obviously as I am wide awake! Maybe it's too scary at night

Gosh I am super tired too this morning, a lack of caffeine and drinking mint tea is not helping so far! In the middle of the night I think oh I will have a tie in in the morning because I feel sick I am so sleepy, then when morning comes I end up getting up as I don't feel so bad then :(

Also not loving the way P has now started stretching my nip back and giving one last big suck before she drops off

Thanks pebble, we're still up, it's nice having activity going on here as I know the night can only last so long... He must sleep soon right?

Jnice I am sure you have tried this but just thought I would say as it worked for P and I.

I keep hold of P (she is a cling on baby) until she is in her deep sleep and then put her in the basket, when I was trying to feed, burp, then put in her basket straight after she would seem to be asleep but wake up after about 5 minutes. I found that if I keep hold of her until she is in her deep sleep she does not wake when I put her in the basket - plus it means I am not getting her out of the basket about 100 times in 1 hour which is what was happening before. I read the way to tell they are def out for the count is to lift an arm and if there is no resistance they are properly asleep. Granted I have to hold her for up to 20-30 mins after feed and and burp (and play on laptop) but it used to take me longer getting her in and out of the basket prior to my new "method"

I might try the tilted basket too tonight to see if that helps, her head is still too small for her sleeping bag yet unfortunately.

Yaaaaaaawn!!!!

Can I hop on the desperately overtired bus?!?! I really thought we'd turned a corner, but last night was the worst night yet. Ayse-Rose was awake from 11pm-6pm and Edith-May from 1-5!! Dh is knackered from work seems incapable of waking up which drives me insane so we end up fighting so i went downstairs with the girls at 4am. Then ds woke up at 6.30 so I got 2 hours from 9-11 and 30 minutes this morning. The girls have of course slept like Angels for the past 2 hours

Sorry i can't remember who was saying about latch but ds had a bad latch with like an over-excitement faffing around style and my nipples were a state and I ran warm baths and fed him in their skin to skin as it calmed him down enough to latch nicely. Also for a while he needed complete skin to skin so I ended up taking my tops off when home alone and feeding him led on my chest xx

Cheshire - that's exactly what I do! I love the dropping arm test, it's so cute! And I am quite enjoying the 20 minutes on my iPhone after a feed. Far too much time spent reading comic AIBU threads on mumsnet. I am a real lurker.

That's what I do before I put M to bed for the night cheeky with the hot water bottle. If M hasn't been latching on properly first time he tends to get cramps as he takes in a lot of air so I have to out him over my shoulder for 5-10 mins.

I think that I'm a mean mummy. When I put him into his cot after feeding and changing he's never asleep and he cries a bit. I just let him cry for 5 mins and then he puts himself to sleep. Tough love but it seems to work with Max! Managed another 5 hour stretch last night (sorry....don't mean to be smug).

I find that I'm much more able to ignore M's crying than DH. Got a bit annoyed with him (DH) last nigth as he wanted me to put M downstairs in the box (playpen) after late afternoon feed so he could get to see M (I understand it sucks when he's out at work all day). But then of course M doesn't settle, or DH picks him up after every whimper. So I've told him that in the early evening if he wants M downstaors then he's in charge of cradling....I do my shift during the day and at night!

Sending you sleep vibes Jnice. Hope you got your lay-in Cheshire.

M peed on me for the first time today while I was feeding him (nappy came loose!) while I was on the phone to DH...I hung up pretty quickly!

Hope evryone has a good day

Just registered jessica. Managed preschool run this morning too and she slept from then till half hour ago and now asleep again. I'm. So tired but ds2 coming back from preschool soon and want time with him too. Sorry moan moan bloody moan.

I just wanted to say I love this bus. I'm not very good at posting regularly but I do keep reading and it is so reassuring to see that other people are having the same problems as me. As a first timer I sometimes wonder if I'm doing everything completely wrong!

We had a fairly good night last night with not to much crying from DD. Or me. . Very grateful as I feel slightly more human today. Knackered but more sane.

I've completely done my back in though, think from lifting the car seat. Doh.

It's the sleepy bus today. Thankfully Seth is always sleepy (fast asleep on my lap now) But DD was having nightmares last night, so I was up with her inbetween the feeds.
DH had slept on the sofa so we could all get better sleep so he didn't hear her... and then went straight to bed when she got up this morning without asking how I was.
I had to be up anyway as HV was coming, but some help to get DD ready would have been nice.
We've had words.

HV sent me off to a BF group today, I'd thought about going anyway because of the latch problems and possible thrush.
I'm glad I went. Seth slept through it all so i couldn't feed him, but I spoke to the lactation consultant, explaining the problems we were having, she had a quick feel in his mouth and it turns out he's got a slight tongue tie. She's going to refer us to get it cut, it will take a couple of weeks for the appointment to come through and she's given me some tips which might help with feeding until then.

I feel so much happier already just knowing that there is a problem and it's fixable.

We might all sleep better when it's fixed too because the clicking sounds 1000 times louder in the middle of the night. DH seems to sleep through Seth waking up, it's the click that's disturbs him.

Right, We're going back to bed now.

Bilblio is the clicking because of tongue tie then? I thought it was just to do with bad latching - which now I think about it though could be related to each other I suppose!

It seems to be quite common, our friends baby had to have theirs cut too as she said it hurt when she bf.

Engel no I didn't get a lie in, P didn't give me chance to shower until 11.40am (that's the latest ever), then posted off my birthing pool to the ebay winner, walked the dog, put washing on, arranged house viewings, dealt with some business stuff, am knackered. My food intake today has been VERY unhealthy. DH will not be impressed when he comes home :(

Hey all! Had massive breakthroughs with the Bfing nightmare over the last couple of days. First of all got him latching back on again yesterday after doing a "rebirth and reset" which is basically a deep bath with him. Latch was still very painful though.

Saw a BF cousellor at the local hospital today and she found the root of the problem, which was the old MN favourite - tongue-tie - a subtle one which is why it got missed by 4 separate midwives. She snipped it there and then. Breast-fed straight away and he was taking so much more of the nipple than before. Still a bit of pain but much reduced. Hopefully we are turning a corner now. I am actually looking forward to breast feeding in the middle of the night without having to express/feed by cup. I am sure that novelty will wear off rapidly

Fantastic news HandDived. Glad it got sorted so quickly. Seth's is only slight, he can stick his tongue out, but not quite far enough, so my nipples have never cracked, they're just always tender... and this cold weather doesn't help! Hopefully now you've got the tongue tie sorted feeding will get easier over the next few days.

Cheshire yes, the click is because he can't stay latched on properly. He's fine at first, but then he loses the suction and the clicking starts. The BFing lady advised leaning over him more so that gravity helps the nipple stay in place.

We got an hour's sleep this afternoon so I'm feeling much better now.

Great news handdived and bilblio! I am also going to a bf drop in tomorrow. I think I have a fast let down and DD is struggling so sucks in air then sicks up her milk. So I'm going to see what they think and I hope they can help me fix it.

I haven't had a nap today, had a visitor that wouldn't go away. I need to learn to tell people when I've had enough!

Can't remember who posted earlier about a grow-bag, but I find putting a heated wheat pack in A's bed at night helps to keep him warm, altho i move it of course when he goes in.

it's fantastic news that your problems have light at the end of the tunnel bilbio and handdived (was it you that was also vegan?).

DS went down in his basket or 45 mins today!!!! Heating is on and we got a swaddle on once he was on floppy arm stage. I think now he can keep himself warm is a bonus.

My mother leaves tomorrow :(

HI everyone... climbing aboard the PN bus

I've felt amazingly ok since the birth, sooooooo much better than I felt after DD1's. Very tired of course, but that's a pretty permanent state of affairs anyway! Feeding isn't going as well as it did with DD1 (I just can't help comparing every aspect of having DD2 with DD1). This little one takes 5-minute snacks and then falls asleep, then 15 mins later wants another snack. She will go longer periods between feeds - but only during daylight hours it seems I know it's too early to try to sort anything out, right now I'm just getting my sleep whenever I can i.e. in daytime. La la la la not thinking about when DH goes back to work. VERY sore right boob too, I hadn't thought about oral thrush but DD1 did have that so I will ask the MW on Friday if DD2 could have it (but would it affect only one side?!).

Loving having a little baby to cuddle again I feel a bit sad she'll be my last and I want to enjoy every minute.

Great news about the bf breakthrough Handdived! Very interesting about the 'rebirth and reset' technique, havent heard that before.

Leo crashed at 2am and slept until 6, I can live with that! It seems all other night time sleep is 45 min catnaps but 1 4 hr stretch feels like a luxury right now. After DH left with the boys Leo and I went back to bed and dozed on and off until noon, I feel like a new woman! Hang the daytime routine at this point

Scones, hope the feeding improves soon, all my boys did that and it frustrated me no end.

Penguin, my mum goes back to the uk on Friday too, not sure how to cope as DH back at work as well

Very pleased with sleep last night, P woke at 1am and 5am. I can cope with that after the other nights of waking every 90 minutes. I feel positively normal today :)

I have started to express this week but was thinking that I should just do one side at a time and maybe only once a day so as not to mess up supply for P feeding directly. Does anyone know whether expressing will affect supply for her or no? I don't need loads, just enough so DH can feed her and I can go out.

no it won't chesire :). I found this a great resource for pumping. Probably most useful bit is after 6 weeks their intake doesn't go up (unlike formula fed babies so don't get scared when you see babies being fed 8oz). Average is 25oz a day which I used as 1oz an hr I'll be away plus 1oz for luck. Babies can drink a lot more than they need due to the teat technique but it means if you struggle for amounts there is less to woory about. Giving them a 3oz bottle when they normally or can take 6oz doesn't matter that much. Alternately if they take more than 3oz that isn't a worry and arguably a good thing.

DS did 2.5 hours at the start of the night in his basket so there is hope (not that I slept) then fed every hour