Feb 2011- the one where Jane gets married and ALL the babies sleep through!

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Hello everyone!!

Ah ledkr I hate it when friends are notorious at cancelling dates, I have one of those. I hope Dilly feels better today.

Sorry, meant to say hi to tad, glad to hear you are all well.

Morning ladies,

A bit bleary eyed here today as C has been a bit poorly (again!) in the night. She was fine yesterday, so I went out to my singing thing, and it ended up going on really late, and it was nearly midnight before I got home (not been to bed that late for ayyyyyges), and then C woke up crying at 5 cos she was full of snot, and just wouldn't be re-settled, so we all got up at 6. Poor snotty baby.

Welcome possum are you ever coming back?

Ledkr boo to friend standing you up. It's crap when people do things like that and don't seem to see why it's a bit rubbish to treat people like that (I do wish people wouldn't bother trying to be 'pretend-friends' and then not actually want to ever see or speak to you).

Off to catch up on everything else.

Dx

Oh no delia poor Claudia, hope she feels better soon.

I know jane I'm a bit for her really, feel like I should be home cuddling her but know it would make naff all difference and I can't be off work when she just has a cold.

Hi, thank you for the warm welcome! Sorry to only just return. Ds is called Noah, he actually slept better last night! Slept through till 4 at which point he came in with us. Hope you all slept well.

delia she will be fine, if there is any problems the nursery will call you. I know it must be hard leaving her when she is all snuffly, if it's any consolation you will be feeling it more than her. Hope the day goes quickly for you. x

OK I feel totally stpuid now, I am sat here at my desk trying to not cry, cos Claudia has....yes....a bit of a cold and I'm not there. I'm ridiculous!

jane you're being too nice (as ever!).

Oooh possum we didn't scare you off then. Glad you had a better night. We went through a period of early waking with C, which apart from when she is poorly (like last night), seems to have fixed itself, but that was bad enough. You're doing a great job and this bit won't last forever (couldn't believe some of the loons on your co-sleeping thread BTW!).

D

Is smirking at the irony of being so sutpid I was too sptuid to even spell stpuid correctly.

Will stop spamming thread now and try and do some [gasp] work [faints].

possum - hello! Sleeping through until 4 is pretty good! My L was a crap sleeper from the beginning, wanting to eat at least every 3 hours day and night. We co-slept for the first 3 months because I was desperate for sleep then he slowly went in to his own bed. It wasn't until we started stuffing him full of food weaning that he started sleeping longer stretches. To his credit, he's always eaten then gone directly back to sleep during the night so no faffing about trying to settle him. He goes to bed rather late (10pm) because he'll only sleep 10 hours at night and I can't cope with the early mornings.

wiggles and Ponyo - BTDT with the hot water bottle. Also, worn clothing, used breast pads and ticking clock (almost forgot the l in clock ) - I think the midwives saw our desperation and wanted to see how far we'd go.

I've bought L a skeleton halloween costume at Tesco. A friend got a Christmas elf costume at Next, may have to get it for the Christmas card photo. I love love love halloween and am a bit gutted it's not celebrated much here. I need an OTT American halloween.

jackfrost Lucy 24/12/10 at 6.50am 3lbs 10 & Katie 24/10/10 at 7.15am 5lbs 10
Cler - Corey 5/01/11 5lb 12oz.
ledkr - Delilah Ivy 27.1.11 7lbs 13oz
NeedToSleep Ben 30/01/11 6lb 4oz
byronicheroine - Konstantinos 2/02/11 7lb 1
tadjennyp - Samuel Jude; 05.02.2011; 8lbs 8oz
Debka - Sabine; 08.02.2011 : 10.6
Tarlia - Zachary 09/02/11 6lb 6
suzym1984 Harry 09/02/2011 6lb 13oz
hardboiledpossum Noah 9/02/2011
PussInConverse Josie (Josephine) 11/02/2011 8lb 9oz
MizK - Cassia 12/02/2011 7lb 14oz
WeAreBorg - Nate 13/02/11 6lb 8oz
canoe - Leo : 13.02.2011 8lb 2oz
ILovePonyo - Anya 14.02.2011 - 6lbs
americanexpat - Leo - 15.02.11 - 8lbs 4oz
wigglesrock - Anna : 15.02.2011 8lbs 8
Four4me : - Archie: 16.2.2011: 7lb 7oz
Deliaskis - Claudia - 16.02.2011; 6lb 9oz
chocoroo Romilly, 17.02.2011, 8lb 11.
emski76- Noah: 20.02.2011: 9lb
WanderingSheep - Charlotte; 22.02.2011 : 8lbs 3.5 ozs
Hubbard86 - Freya 24/2/11 8lb 1.
Grannyapple Nate 24/2/2011 6lb 15
reastie: - Alice; 25.02.2011 : 8.13
40Weeks Mikey 26.02.2011 8lb 6oz
janedoe25 - Zoe 28.02.2011 - 7lbs 2oz xx for Zoe, a part of all of us and our babies, never forgotten
irishqueen - Maeve : 01.03.2011
Iamjustthemilkmachine - Pablo: 13.03.2011 - 9lbs 11oz

americanexpat they're a bit like all the tips you use if you have a puppy I will admit to consider the ticking cock clock one at one point

I am just back from Next and saw the elf costume/babygro, they're very cute, but I would need to cut the feet from them

deliaskis Claudia will be grand - only a few more hours until the weekend

ledkr I hate it when plans get cancelled - my sister does it quite a bit. She's very tired doncha know

Welcome back possum. You know you'll have to post at least twice a day just to keep up!

delia think about it another way- someone else is looking after your snotty miserable baby! Yay! (I'm aware this is probably Not Helping at all...)

Interesting looking at the stats who is MIA ATM (get me with my acronyms). wanderingsheep, tarlia, suzy (or did she namechange?), canoe, pussinglads, irishqueen and the January girls (except for our very own ledkr who has more to say than all of us put together )

Got some people who want me to make Christmas cakes for them- not sure what to charge though. I was thinking of for a 6inch cake £12 uniced or £18 iced and decorated, and 8inch £20 uniced or £30 decorated. What do you think? Would you pay that?

my boden order came today . Have tried on all outfits and sought a second opinion from Mum and she thinks the one that suits me best is the patterned cord one that needto coveted. So this might be the chosen outfit. It's super good as I can wear it to work too and it's one of the cheaper outfits . The maxi one did look nice too but a bit too evening/dressy for a minimal christening

On the not so exciting news, I had my last CBT today. Tbh it hasn't helped as much as I had hoped. I had beforehand decided to tell the therapist re: the PND potential issue but chickened out. I had written a list of everything that feels ontop of me to show him. I tried so hard and had the oppertunity to but every time I thought about telling him I just cried . I physically couldn't tell him. I have no idea whether I'm bad enough to see the GP or if this is normal (or normal for me). I know usually I talk about things with DH or Mum but I can't bring myself to talk about this with them. Does this mean I don't have a problem and I'm making something out of nothing or I do have a problem I just can't admit it? . Feeling really confused.

Was that an elf babygro I heard mentioned? I soooooo want one for ALice. I wonder if I santa will bring her one

ledkr what did you do today? You seem so confident I can't imagine you not going to a class as you don't know anyone there

american ticking clock???? HAven't heard that one before

delia how are you now?

possum good to see you came back

thanks for your lovely comment re alice

deb £12 is too little I think- the cost of the fruit/alcohol/electricity for oven for those hours of cooking/your time etc etc I'd say £15 uniced (btw does uniced include marzipan? That would add a couple of pounds to your ingredients cost too). Re icing it depends how you ice it and how labour intensive the deocoration is (or if you're just icing it plain)

reastie I could def do the class but you pay for the whole thing so entry to soft play after and not worth going just for half an hour iyswim? Even i am not confident enough to be the only one amongst all the zombie sophie thew girraffe mums.

wiggs my sis is ok not too precious but she doesnt show at all which is odd.She is 22 weeks course my Mum is loving it."Oh she doesnt show at all!" Whist staring at my fat tummy Oh yes sis is having alittle boy too

Just having my roooots done then preparing for the big night out,well ok then im doing the dancing run ill have my usual 2 minutes to get ready i expect.

Deb, I would pay that for Xmas cakes, especially home made!
Yes, a few of us have disappeared....do you think, gasp, horror, that their lives are so busy they have no time for us anymore??!

Delia, it is hard leaving your little one when their poorly, but Deb has a good point!

Hey Possum, my baby is call Noah too, great name! Noah has slept well from around 15 weeks when I started early weaning. At the moment he tends to sleep well until 4/5am then moans on and off until we get him up, usually at6. Dh brought him in with us at 5.30ish this morning and he was wide awake but yawning. He finally went back to sleep at 7 until 8. Dh kindly got up with Ben and let me sleep with Noah.

Ledkr, my two pet peeves are people who cancel plans continuously and people being late! Makes you wonder why you bother making the effort!

Were been to a play barn this morning with a friend and her son. Ben is now watching a film while Noah naps and I mums net!

Its very sunny here so going to take Ben on another bike ride later.

Reastie, I think if you feel unable to talk to anyone than maybe talking to doctor may help, even if you don't come away with anti ds or anything, just talking about it may help.

I'm glad you chose a nice dress, get all smarted up and feel good about yourself.

I've been looking into getting Noah blessed next year, we have the Reverend coming to see us in November. One of my biggest concerns though is what I will wear!

reastie I am now totally fine about C as Deadka quite rightly pointed out that I don't have to actually look after snotty fed up C, so on balance, I have to say, every cloud does indeed have a silver lining! Sorry to sound like such a dreadful cold fish, but actually, whilst I feel I should be with her, I know that by now I would be actually completely p'd off and climbing the walls - desparately loving and adoring and doting on your precious baby from afar is in this respect much easier than doing it face to face every day. So I am strangely reconciled to the whole thing (which is in fact not really a thing at all, as it is after all, only a a cold).

Deb that actually really did help! Agree your cakes are too cheap. We spend roughly that much making our own and that's...well...for us, so for your time and oven etc. a little more I think..

Also reastie sorry to hear how you're feeling re end of CBT and other things. I really do agree with Emski that maybe it is time to talk to a doctor about how you are feeling. I can relate to everything you have said re not being able to raise things and jus crying and feeling out of control, it's just how I felt early on, and I do think you should talk to a doctor about it. I think PND is classed as anything before 1 yr, and you've been feeling 'not right' for a bit now. As Em said maybe you won't end up with anti-ds, maybe you will, but that's almost less important at this stage than accepting and recognising that you don't feel right, and having that discussed and managed in the right way for you. For me, even being told by Dr 'you have PND' was cathartic as it finally made me understand and accept that it wasn't just me being cr@p, it was an actual real thing. (PS I've stopped my fake swearing on mn as I just do proper swears now, but I did that one just for you cos I know it makes you laugh).

Ledkr I have a small level of anxiety on your behalf for The Dancing Run. Have you done any limbering up?

Work is disturbingly quiet at the moment - can everyone tell?

D

Emski, we thought we were being very original with the name Noah but I seem to meet one at every baby group I go to! He used to sleep through 8-8 with a dream feed at 10.30 from 12 weeks and I was very smug thinking what a good job I'd done getting him in to a great routine, it all went downhill at 6 months. Probably Karma.
Health visitor gave me slightly dubious advice esterday, apparently Noah needs two puddings a day. She suggested ice cream, custard or rice pudding. She also told me I need to cut down on his milk feeds. I'm not sure why ice cream is better than milk?!

possum that is interesting advice . I wonder if she meant protein foods would keep him fuller for longer so he might last longer at night? The NHS green book actually recommends custard and fruit as a dessert which I was a bit about [pfb] . I give Alice 2 puds a day - a yoghurt at lunch and fruit/fruit and rice/fruit and baby biscuit for tea.

oh, and re: seeing my gp. I tried ringing the surgery but it's closed on fri afternoons apparently so have to wait until next week. I did however research pnd online. I have most symptoms

ledkr if i don't get the chance later have a great week end.

Reastie, I think she was suggesting protein foods but he doesn't feed at night so I'm not sure why I need to fill him up with solids more. He's a pretty big boy (98 centile) so I've tried to avoid giving him sugary puddings but do give him fruit and natural yogurt after supper. Maybe she was just following NHS advice then if it is in your book.

hvs IME can give limited advice and it can be quite odd sometimes. I've found they don't always directly answer specific questions I give them and like to offer their generic advice answer to the approx subject area. My hv was obsessed with me doing shhh pat to alice during sleep probs, no matter how many times I told her we had done this repeatedly and it didn't work she just kept repeating to try shh pat like I'd never done it before . Maybe yours is like mine and didn't listen to the whole story that he doesn't need feeds at night . Can I be nosy please - is Noah your 1st LO? Where (approx region is fine) do you live? How are you finding things other than sleep?