FESH Spa & Creche - The Messiah is late - 'e's a very naughty boy!

[AlpinePony]

2010 - the best year of my life, for half of it I was pregnant and for the other half had my baybee.

Pls to confess, I've never done apres.

Still got no broadband at home so am using mobile internet to work and some asshat has sent a 5.5mb email. ?

boxer I'm in. All I need to do is put winter ytres on, skis in boot and am there!

kate your photos are wonderful. Congrafs on the wanted pesh birth!

I don't have blood in my veins! It's vin chaud!!!!

Alps I bet you have après'd! Don't believe for a minute that you haven't sat in the sun with a bevvy or two after a satisfying days skiing!

muse if worried call your mw or the NCT bf'ing line but u remember doing nothing but feeding! Cos you are also knackered it makes it so much harder!!

MB has rotten cold. Sounds v snotty but he has become a right chatty bugger!!

Morning all,

Sorry to post a question & buggar off! Thanks for all your replies, seem to be along the same lines. There's no rush on the RSVP just yet - think I may tentatively accept but speak to the happy couple also to warn them. They're fully aware I'm diffed, & bride to be is a mother, so hopefully will understand.

Thanks again.

I ski too. Well I did every year pre marriage. Mr C refuses to even try it despite me banging on about how much he would like it. He moans about achy knees and prefering snow ball fights and sledging. I think it is just cos I will be better than him altough I have offered to learn to board so we will be on same beginner level. I tried boarding once and was just standing there at the bottom of a slope and a gust of wind blew me over knocked me off balance and I landed on my camera in pocket and cracked a couple of ribs so since then I have stuck to 2 planks and not 1.

Muse fed away, in the first weeks that is all you will feel you do. Important for the supply. It goes a bit lke this; feed sleep feed sleep cry nappy feed sleep cry nappy and repeat..

moo I can beat your dawg peeing on the bed, my cat peed up against my leg while I was sat on the loo at the weekend. The little fucker. I was very cross.

muse feeding a lot early on is what happens*, the first 4 or 5 weeks are all about getting your supply to the levels that Bob needs, so it's really important to feed whenever she needs it, even if it's only 5 mins after last feed! I lost count of the number of times I said "you can't be hungry again!" to him :)

*disclaimer, if it is literally constantly there is possibly a problem and it's a good idea to pop down to a bf cafe or ring a helpline as it could be that there is an issue causing Bob to feed inefficiently and therefore need to be on for longer.

okes what do you wanna know? I haz done training about all sorts of bf ishoos and will be volunteering manning a 24hr helpline for peoples to ring. Yikes! The organisation I'll be working for also does ante natal stuff, hospital visits after birth, home visits and runs bfing groups in sure start centres.

okie Mr Moo also refuses to go skiing. He has a metal pin in hip due to accident so fair enough but I do want babymoo to learn and have fun so he will just have to stay in chalet and read get pissed.

muser I feel bad saying this but I actually found it quite overwhelming how much babymoo fed and was literally in my arms constantly for the first few weeks/month. There was a point in time when I actually put him down in his cot and he was happy on his own for a good 15 minutes and suddenly I could do stuff!!! My mum kept saying that I should literally eat and rest and do nothing else. Hard if you haven't got the help but still it will help your milk come in so take the time to rest as much as you can. Those days when they sleep and sleep dont last!!!!

cossie - congrats that is a fabulous thing to do

i agree honey it is totally overwhelming.

please can you all pop to other place, i have asked a q. ta

I am going to kill jb. I want Bear out of our bedroom - for various reasons including my own selfish wanting to sleep.

I want to follow okie's advice given the other day. He won't buy in to it. Last night I told him to fuck off downstairs and sleep on the sofa - he replies with "there's no point I can still hear him crying and I need to go to work in 4 hours". Well forgive my cold heart but I work ft as opposed to his pt and there are two doors between our bedroom and the couch and there's a kg of cotton wool in the bathroom. Cunt.

Anyway, after going against everything it's ever said in any books about encouraging a baby to self-settle he finally gets up out of bed and just fucks off downstairs leaving me with a wound-up baby whilst he gets a decent 4 hours kip.

I think I'm going to ask him to spend the next 3 nights (at least) downstairs until I can get this sleeping in his own room cracked - am I bonkers?

I think she is feeding well when she feeds, going by how it feels and watching which muscles are going. I do take her off and put her back on if it hurts of feel she's on wrong. And the number of nappies she fills indicates good things. It is overwhelming though.

muse it is, but it is temporary and you are doing the right thing. I promise it gets easier. Until she gets teeth

alps not unreasonable at all. You do it your way. If it was me i'd be booking him into a B&B so he's out from under my lumphammer feet

Sorry, crossposts Alps. Not unreasonable at all. I'd be considering a tent in the garden myself.

muse don't forget, having a new baby is overwhelming, not just the feeding! you are spending all your time second guessing what Bob wants, all the time she is asleep waiting for her to wake up, all the time she is awake waiting for her to need feeding. It's the most intense relationship and it's brand new and scary.

You sound like you are doing all the right things, especially taking her off if it feels wrong, that is something I forgot to do at the start.

alps if it makes you feel better we had 2 rows last night. I went for a run and Artie cried for the half hour when I was out, which is apparently all my fault. Then he wouldn't settle at 4.30 am so we had "discussions" about how we should just leave him to cry it out.

cossie :( I want to get on with my own things. Let's design & market a harness for horse-riding/running/gym. Like you, if I leave him at home I get moaned at. He doesn't like me taking him to the stables and obviously it's a no-go at the gym as there's no creche there - even if there were, in my experience creche-gyms are only open in the morning. So errr... for people who don't work. Awesome.

Cunt.

Anyway, am in McDonalds on their wi-fi so just going to pick up a happy meal for Bear then be on my way. Why don't they do fruit-shoots with Happy Meals?

Yes alps, good question. And perhaps include a Greggs sausage roll in the Happy Meal too? They really should sell it all in one place as it's such a drag to have to stand in two queues every time my baby needs feeding.

I have been to the doc this morning. She gave me a depression questionnaire, phone number for counselling, and wants to see me again to discuss ADs. I think I had better do that soon as I have nearly scored full marks on the questionnaire.

HV came to see me too. She was really nice. We spoke on the phone and 10 minutes later she was sitting on my sofa holding Clyde! How's that for service?

In other news, Clyde has D&V. Also I had a strange call from an insurance company (not ours) this morning and when I asked what regarding they said 'about the vehicle accident MrP has just been involved in'. Me wail, panic, drop phone, phone MrP and sure enough he has been rear-ended. Nice way to find out, insurance arseholes.

OH fgs, why bother with a happy meal? give him a big mac!

Oh fanny :( I wish I was nearer :(

fanny i'm so sorry you're feeling shit. The power of fesh is with you.

My day is just getting better and better. This morning i got my appointment at the creche wrong and right now am at vet an hour early. Twat.

Aibu to supersize bear's. Bigmac meal with a strawwberry shake?

Did you know they put pig fat in the shakes?

alps Obviously I point this out merely out of concern for Bear's Yiddish-style credentials, not for 'health reasons'.

cos Yes, in this house all the discussions about trying different parenting techniques seem to happen at 3:45am when both sprogs are wailing at us and flailing fists. Very constructive discussions, those.

And, yes, very unreasonable of you to stay where you are when I move 200 miles away. What were you thinking?

Sorry you're feeling rubbish Fanny, but good that you are getting help.

thanks for the update Fanny. i was fretting about you. sorry are feeling that low. that questionnaire is horrible to do, but will bring good. i'm gutted I'm going away for a week, cos otherwise I'd be visiting post haste. Hope you got my messages. Xxx

oh and I will share the pain on the OH front. mine had been told he treats his daughter as an inconvenience, doesn't look after her properly and hasn't bothered to get to know her. And that's why she reaches out to me all the time. i might have been overacting, but there,s deffo some truth in it. Shit, becasue come april care will be equally split between me, him and nursery, and I won't be there to wipe both arses.

God, sympathies on the rubbish menfolk. Can I ask, if it's not too personal, has it been like that from the start or did they start of with good intentions that fell apart?

TBG has been fantastic so far. I have changed about 4 nappies, he does them all. He sits every morning with her in the living room so I can sleep undisturbed in the bedroom. He has also done all the cooking, laundry and washing up. Obviously when he goes back to work he won't be able to do as much, but I'm wondering if going back to work will spark off some withdrawal. I hope not as it's lovely watching him with her.

muser Oh they're all wonderful at the start - can't do enough to help, 100% supportive, bring cakes, mojitos etc. Then after a couple of months they fail to hear the whimpering at night and do things like give the baby a bath in your office and cover all your fucking electrical stuff in water. Or perhaps fail to mention that you're out of nappies/baby food/clean bibs/etc. oh and they say things like "I'm sooooooo tired" and your head spins because you think "wtf? I've been up since 2am, cleaned the kitchen, done a full day at work, conference call with the US, designed a million euro budget AND looked after the fucking baby for the last 18 hours, cooked dinner and YOU 're tired?".

JB is being less of an arsehole now because his precious fucking cable TV has been reconnected. Cunt.

It's got to go on record that SFF does the huge majority of cooking, dog walking, dishwashering, rubbish sorting, fire lighting, nipping to shops etc. He just has v little foresight where baby is concerned and is v deaf to whinging, even though he whinges about it. He still thinks he can dump her on the floor and watch last night's Shameless uninterrupted etc. but she needs more attention than that, and when the whining starts it's"let's go visit mummy" and whatever I am trying to do, usually cleaning/laundry, gets interrupted. Grrrrrrrr. We can't have it all.

But he has just taken her into town with hi,