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waitinggirl · 21/10/2010 08:18

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LadyThompson · 15/11/2010 11:08

Hello brilliant girls

Weekend went a bit hectic - working at thehouse and late shopping on Sat (Rubes, I was only waiting in the car outside the supermarket with the girls as they were asleep, DP got the short straw and did the big shop but perhaps I did in the end as he forgot the things I actually wanted Grin) and yesterday was taking my FIL, DH's dad, for lunch. He is not just a surrogate parent for me but also DP, whose own father died years ago. And then we did more house and then I watched the film of This is England - will watch Garrow tonight instead...I missed I'm a Celeb, DB, but will be watching what I can, amidst DP's tutting.

Well, we have a tentative moving date - weekend of Dec 11th/12th. It won't be anywhere near perfect by then but think we are going to bite the bullet and just do it, assuming heating is fixed by then!

Spot - must apologise bout non-appearance of your package. I gave it to DP and assumed it had gone but it was languishing in his work bag so will take it to PO myself today. Sorry poor little T is poorly again. I hope you get on ok with your friend today, do let us know how it goes. I would echo others who say it is far too early to say that this is the blueprint for either child's future behaviour - truly - and would also echo Rubes about the pregnancy hormones magnifying everything. Mind you, it's horrid to see your child suffer. DD1 kept shyly smiling at another toddler in the pub yesterday, saying "hello girl" and waving and this other kid was just staring blankly at her. I realise I am going to be one of those ridiculously partisan mothers (like my own) as I was thinking "For Pete's sake smile back, child! Do not reject my beautiful daughter's overtures!" Grin

Vagola, I would be a bit cross if someone put lollies in my shoes! Oh, and as a comedy fan, did you know that there are new 11 minute eps of Alan Partridge on YouTube, called Alan Partridge's Mid Morning Matters' or something. Two have been on so far.

Trace, it could well be the Pill - Avo is right. I count myself fortunate not to have suffered from depression in my life, but once, I was given a dose of Progesterone as I had a period that went on and on. I felt quickly, and frighteningly, low in myself. It was awful. I stopped taking it. One can't underestimate these things. And evenif it isn't that, surely you can allow yourself a period of adjustment that the CPN has finished? No shame in telling them you need a bit of help getting used to the new situation. Entirely natural imo.

Urbs, sorry your DH isn't giving you the support you need. However, I would just say that I often feel cross with DP because he isn't behaving precisely as I would do so, and actually, that isn't possible when one thinks about it. It's a big turmoil you've had and you need time to recover. Oh, and I heart Liberty decs. And yes, American Wife good if you haven't read it, and also Past Imperfect by Julian Fellowes which I have mentioned loads. John Updike's Rabbit books are my faves - interestingly, HBO are adapting for telly soon...Hmm, they will have a job casting the main role, I would have thought.

Rubes, I am so not deafing you out about meeting up. I have just had logistical probs with planning when/how I will next be in town. Also v nervous bout managing the two of 'em. Has your phone come back to life? Let me know! How is DS's conjunctivitis?

Avo, your DD1 is incredibly wise beyond her years, what a credit to you and your DH.

Right, more coffee, I only had three and a half hours of sleep. Zzzzz.

JollyBear · 15/11/2010 11:21

Hello everyone,

So much to respond to..

urbane I'm so sorry Sad. I can't add anything to the very wise words already written. Lots of love.

DB I'm so sorry about your grandad Sad. Sounds like your family are all pulling together, and it is an honour to be chosen to do a reading. Much love to all of you.

trace I know you have said before that the pill disagrees with you, I remembered because it does the same thing to me! If I were you I'd go back to your GP and talk them through your previous experiences on the pill and how you are feeling. It is understandable to be wobbly about being released by the CPN but it sounds like you are feeling more upset than that. It may be that the pill is just not right for you and coming off it might help.

zoe Well done on the job! That is really good news. I'm sure you'll enjoy having more time with DD. That toast sounded awful, did DD like it?! Re stuffing, I'm afraid I'm not into the savoury side of Christmas cooking but could bore people all day on the joys of Christmas baking. I have a Christmas cake maturing at the moment baked to my Gran's recipe. I'm tipping sherry on it regularly!

spot What does your GP say about T's chest now? I know they were quering asthma but not disagnosing anything as he is too young. Is he on any sort of inhaler? Will be drink smoothies or frozen sorbet to try and boost his vit c levels?

mom Did you get my email about returning the dress you kindly lent me? Let me know if not and I'll send it again!

I had a nice visit to see the midwife this morning and they found the heartbeat no problem Smile. It was a relief to have a 'normal' appointment. My consultant at the hospital is querying whether my kidneys are working properly so I'm being sent for a kidney ultrasound and having various blood and urine tests. It is good I'm being kept a close eye on but I think because of my medical history the consultant is extra cautious and having all these extra tests makes me worry that something major is going wrong. I'm sure it is all fine, my kidneys have always been in good order before. Oh well, I'm sure it will all become clear soon enough.

JollyBear · 15/11/2010 11:26

OOoh exciting news on the moving date ladyT! You'd be able to make the place seem instantly warm and welcoming with a Christmas tree and lights. Are you moving yourselves or getting men in?

Oh and vag if you like Alan Partridge, have you been watching The Trip? The first episode was filmed in the Trough of Bowland close to where I used to live.

LadyThompson · 15/11/2010 11:42

We are getting a couple of friends to move us, JB. There's not too much coming from this flat, most of the furniture from my old house is there already now, you see. And I am glad they are keeping a close eye on you at the hospital! Keep well please.

EffiePerine · 15/11/2010 12:13

JB: any chance of the cake recipe, or do you have to swear to keep it a secret?

JollyBear · 15/11/2010 12:53

You'd be most welcome to have the recipe effie Smile. My gran passed away many years ago so I can't check but I'm sure she'd be thrilled to share it.

Emily's Christmas Cake

8oz Butter
8oz soft brown sugar
4 large eggs
1 dessertspoonful of golden syrup
10oz Plain Flour
Pinch of salt
12oz Currants
8oz Sultanas
4oz Raisins
4oz Mixed peel (I always omit the mixed peel and add in 4oz of other dried fruit - cranberries, apricots etc)
4oz Glace cherries
2oz Ground almonds
1oz Sliced almonds
Teaspoon of cinnamon, and mixed spice
Sprinkling of nutmeg
Juice and rind of half a lemon
Juice and rind of half an orange
Half teaspoon of vanilla essence and almond essence
2 tablespoons of sherry, rum or brandy

Butter and line a 8 inch cake tin.

Soak dried fruit in sherry and fruit juices. You can leave this overnight if you have time but doing it on the day is fine too.

Blend butter, golden syrup and sugar until light and fluffy. Add eggs gradually with a spoonful of flour between each egg. Add rest of flour. Add essences. Stir in fruits. The mixture should be firm.

Once the mixture is in the tin. Cover the outside of the tin with either newspaper or folded greaseproof paper. I pin a sheet of greaseproof over the top too to stop it getting too brown on top. You can always remove it towards the end of cooking time to colour the top.

Put in oven preheated to 150 for half an hour, then reduce temp to 140.

Start testing after 3 hours. It depends on your oven! It could take up to 4 and a half hours.

It is a really nice cake. I'm not a big fan of dark fruit cake, I think they can be bitter but this is lighter yet still very christmassy.

EffiePerine · 15/11/2010 13:03

Ooh thanks! That looks like a great recipe. My dad wraps his cakes in brown paper - they never burn but I find them a little bit stodgy (recipe rather than brown paper I think). I also approve of the alternating eggs and flour bit as that's how my grandmother taught me to make cakes :).

Rubena · 15/11/2010 14:14

*Sorry to hear bout rough night and poor T Spot Sad
*Urbs glad you like being around more Grin
*Lady, I know, don't worry, super busy here too. DS still puffy eyed and a bit sticky. Great news on move in date! When's the housewarming? Grin
*Trace hope you start to feel brighter soon

*Had plumber around - result and heating getting sorted

  • Christmas is big house gone tits up long story but will explain to anyone in person but not on here Wink I'm pushing Christmas at mine now so although disappointed about original plan, am bit excited about laying my table Grin
LadyThompson · 15/11/2010 15:11

Not sure about the bullet points - I miss the old Rubes! Oh no, sorry about Christmas...So what's news on phone, does i still work? In short I may be in London Thurs and Fri afternoon but will have both girls, are you around?

Housewarming - I think proper housewarming party after Christmas, lots of informal housewarming drinks before!

JamInMyWellies · 15/11/2010 16:02

Bring back Rambling Rubes!

Mega busy here, didnt even get my breakfast dishes away until an hr ago.

Will try catch up tom as I have no car so will be doing going mental lots of lovely things with the wee men.

Trace wanted to send you a hug.

MomOrMum · 15/11/2010 16:46

Very quick from work....Jolly I didn't get your email for some reason? Send it again if you can, or if you have my address from the parcel you can just post it back whenever. No rush at all!

Beans33 · 15/11/2010 17:18

%$£()&%^&& heating and hot water

When you're in rented accommodation, you kind of expect some level of of good heating/hot water. We have a lovely bloke who comes and sorts it all out for us, but every single time, something else goes wrong and it's driving me batty. He spent 4 hours trying to fix it this morning and it was all up and running, but while we were at the park, it's gone again, so house is cold. BUGGER!

Oh well, never mind.

Trace - if you feel you need to see someone again, then you must. You know how it feels and I'd go with your instincts. Better to go and not need it, than not go and need it, IYSWIM?

Lady - woo to moving date! Hrrah!

xx

Beans33 · 15/11/2010 17:19

Sorry, have to go - DD1 kicking off at suppe time! x

poisondwarf · 15/11/2010 18:24

DB sorry to hear about your Grandad. Lucky man to have had such a loving family around him till the end of his life.

trace sorry to hear you're feeling down again. I get the same feeling you get with DD but not DS - it's always her I'm dying to see when I'm on my way home from work. As urbane says, I think it's just nature's way of helping you protect your littlest one - it doesn't mean you love the other one any less. As for money worries, have you tried Money Saving Expert? It's very good for all kinds of situations big and small - doing something to tackle the problem, even if it's just checking out your options or asking for advice might make you feel more in control of the situation. And don't feel bad asking for help - that's what they are there for!

JB I love the Trough of Bowland. Where did you use to live?

Rubes love DS knocking.

LadyT good news about the move. We should be moving into our new place the following weekend.

Avo v sweet of your DD to reassure you like that!

spot allergy testing sounds like a good plan. Also, could there be damp or anything like that in your house? About the agressiveness, as others have said it is likely to be a phase. I think Vag's strategy is a good one, i.e. support them to stand up for themselves in a non-confrontational way and in a safe environment. I know T is too young for that at the moment but he does need to learn coping strategies for when you're not there so controlled exposure is probably a good thing - especially as the other mum seems supportive and you need local friends around you.

Well I had a bit of a funny do the other day. I went to give blood and then had what is apparently called a vasovagal episode (nearly passed out, v low pulse, grey pallor and blue lips, a bit agitated). Anyway, they've told me they don't recommend I give blood again as it is likely to happen every time. I don't really know what to do now - they haven't said I can't give blood, just that they recommend I don't. Anybody know anything about this?

So has anyone been to this Winter Wonderland before? I doubt I'll be able to meet up there (well it depends on when you are going of course) but I was thinking of it maybe for DD's birthday. Would it be any good? I should probably just google it but I'd be interested to hear from someone who's been.

Thanks for all the holiday recommendations. I have a terrible confession though - I've gone and booked the same place we've been twice before. Just couldn't justify the money for anything else when the house move is taking up pretty much every penny we've got. Still, got a right bargain - under £500 for all flights and accommodation - couldn't have got even the scuzziest of packages for that.

Oh and will be needing holiday book recommendations - have got the latest Peter Carey lined up but need something else as well. The brief: entertaining but not brainless (did anyone read A Fraction of the Whole by Steve Toltz? something like that would be good). Shall I save Jonathan Coe for a non-holiday read then?

VagolaJahooli · 15/11/2010 18:50

Hi PD its so nice to see you regularly. I was wondering om the weekend if you would come back again this week.

Rubes I rambling fan too, so get back to the old Rubes please. That photo of your DS on FB is too cute.

Spot I'd def push the allergy testing. It's expensive but I had a friend take her son to a nutritionist for intolerance testing and came up with lots of stuff to temporarily avoid and it did the trick for his regular colds and the poor little things constipation. DH went to the same lady when he had terrible stomach problems (his digestive system basically shut down) and she sorted him right out. Both are back on normal diets now.

DB that naming ceremony sounds like it was actually quite well timed. Your poor nan though, with the prospect of facing her treatment without her man. Heartbreaking.

JB I love the trip I watched last weeks episode again last night and it was even better the 2nd time. DH & I are going to have a look at those YouTube clips Lady, thanks for the tip.

lady I think its lovely that your DP & FIL have that relationship. no one will ever replace your DH or DPs dad but having a kind of surrogate relationship helps with the feelings of loss I guess. oh & lady we maybe coming by oxford can we pop in for tea?
still no word on the house.

VagolaJahooli · 15/11/2010 18:52

Urbs it would probably be a bit to close to Christmas for you. your right it prob is a bit cold for the chute. do you ever go to docklands museum? Did you know there is a brilliant kids bit on the ground floor?

poisondwarf · 15/11/2010 19:09

Vag aw thanks luv - it's nice to be back! Though to be fair I've only been able to be on so much cos I've been so slack at work (working from home again today otherwise I'd be too zombified to post by this time of night). Still, when we move & my new job starts I'm hoping I can start resembling a human being again. I might even start going to bed after the DCs!

Rubena · 15/11/2010 19:26

But my bullet points are so much more to the point.
Lady I will look forward to the Christmas drinks or any similar occasion at your new pad Grin
DS's conjunctivitis has moved to the other eye as well. It's not too bad but not well enough to go to toddler group today. He's all puffy too.
Poison I'm looking forward to you resembling a human again and seeing more of you on here Smile Not sure about WW as I've never been but heard it's very good
Thanks Vagooli (re FB pic) he often sits on the dog like she's a chair and eats his sandwiches Hmm
I love your pic on their too. DS2 blends in to all the leaves you can hardly see him!

Beans - you shouldn't put up with it. I got quite irritated today as the plumber they sent last week was useless and landlord refused to do anything so today agent came herself to assess the situation. New plumber insisted on new thermostat and therms on the radiators at minimum so i was v v happy. Your problem a million times worse than mine (given you actually don't have heat) I'd have raised absolute hell by now.

Rubena · 15/11/2010 19:43

Had to run for a min then.
Also, Lady I could be free Thurs or Fri afternoon, what are your plans and where will you be?
Oh and the phone. pretty much like nothing ever happened to it! The baby monitor however has completely lost the display which also shows the temp etc which is annoying but see how it goes and might end up getting another.
Oh and yes, I'm an I'm a celeb watcher - actually that's dh's only reality show he likes so we shall be watching Grin

Rubena · 15/11/2010 19:48

My poor little sick boy has been such an angel today.
he's all puffy and weepy and then choked on an apple this afternoon and got even more upset, but he's more mopey than anything.
I just read him 2 stories and then I said, "now DD is already sleeping so shhhh, no run run run to the gate and screaming daaaaady because you'll wake her up" and he giggled and then never got out of bed! Hmm well, so far....

Rubena · 15/11/2010 19:50

I just heard him get out of bed, open his door, but he remained quiet then shut his door again Shock he totally gets it! Right that's four borderline rambling posts in a row from me......

sybilfaulty · 15/11/2010 20:23

Hello everyone

Am a bit wobbly today (for no apparent reason) and have work to finish before tomorrow so I won't stay long, but am loving the christmas chit chat and hope to be back on with my festive 2 penneth. I was very sorry to miss last week's runner conversation but am cheered by the talk of Nanny Emily's cake - delish. I often think of Nanny Anne and her wise words when things are tough. There is a lot of good sense on this thread. BTW, does anyone know how Turnip is? I know she is a FB girl but I am not on that one.

Huge love to Trace, Deids and indeed everyone.

SummerLightning · 15/11/2010 21:18

Hi all,
Sorry not been on, don't know where the time goes.
urbane sorry about your bad news, I hope you are still taking things easy on yourself.

deirdre very sorry to hear about your grandad. I hope your nan is doing ok under the circumstances. The naming day for your cousin sounded lovely. Hope you are doing ok too.

spot sorry you are worried about T and his being picked on. My DS is a bit of both, he's a bit of a whinger when someone takes what he wants/is strong than him, but is not averse to a bit of shoving/taking/being mean to those smaller/younger than him. But I am on a bit of a downer on him at the moment as he is being v difficult so I shouldn't be too tough on him. But I would rather he was all round gentle!!

rubes your little DS sounds lovely with his polite knocking. I hope you are not giving up your rambling for bullet points though, that would be most disappointing.

trace sorry you are feeling low. Hopefully it is just hormones re the pill, but I think you should definitely go and talk to the GP about it. Also you should enjoy your time without DCs, hope you had a good lunch! I don't really miss mine when I am apart from them just for a little while Blush I guess I don't get that much time apart from them at the mo though as I am not working so I go skipping off going "yippee yippee yippee" when I get time off.

I am a bit miserable at the moment. I think it is winter and having nothing to look forward to....having 2 children is wearing me out and it is not likely to get easier any time soon as they are both sleeping pretty well. DS is being a little shit today though, he's hurt DD again, and repeatedly keeps shoving her in the face, even though I keep putting him in his cot for time out and shouting at him. He does know he shouldn't do it, but he does it anyway. And we went to toddler group this morning and he hit and pushed any child he could find smaller than himself, and made several cry. In the end we left early as he was pissing me off so much. I think he wants attentino and is recovering from a bad cold/bug from last week so is probably feeling tired/not on form. But I hope he gets over it soon as he is really doing my head in. Oh and DH and I keep on fighting over little things as we are knackered, and we always disagree on parenting issues, he seems to want to parent like his mother did, even though he admits she is massively annoying. And MIL coming to visit this weekend, oh joy, so she can criticize my parenting technique as well, wonderful. PLus DS eating nothing as usual. SIGH.

Sorry sorry sorry for massive RAMBLING moan there! God I am knackered. Had insomnia last night due to worrying about arguments with DH and hence didn't get to sleep til 4:30am. So I am going to bed now.

Oh I would love more Xmas talk!! Sorry I don't have any good stuffing recipes, I have made turkey stuffing before but can't remember where the I got the recipe from! Not cooking Xmas lunch this year but will join in Xmas decoration and other seasonal cooking chat!

VagolaJahooli · 15/11/2010 23:13

Thinking of you SL, and sorry you have to endure your MIL in the middle of it all. Didn't you visit her, like a week ago?

With the Sinta klaas thing going on here, we told DS1 to put his shoes & DS2's shoes out for Sinta Klaas. I was upstairs putting DS2 to sleep when DH reminded him again. He went into the corridor near the front door, where all the shoes are and found all his & Js shoes, including some that are too small now. He lined them all up. I think he's hoping Sinta Klaas' little helpers will fill them all up.

urbanewarrior · 16/11/2010 07:42

Urgh. have terrible hangover. DH and I went out for dinner with some friends last night and I drank way too much. Fun though. But can barely type and I have no idea how I'm going to cope with work.

Spot I hope T had a better night last night.

Deids your poor nan Sad. Glad you had chance to talk about how great your grandad was though.