Dec 08 Ladies - Waiting for BabyLady & the usual grumpy tots with stinky bots

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Hope this is ok...

Actually Jolly, you are spot on as DP has retrieved the travel cot from the house but he didn't have time to set it up before he went to work and told me not to as you actually need quite a bit of strength! But I will have it tomorrow so that should be easier.

Big phew on the sickness for you, JB.

I need to sort out my bad back at some point. I have had it since DD1. I intend to lose weight and improve my core strength, but does anyone know whether I need a doctor, an osteopath, a chiropracter or a physiotherapist? Or some other expert? I haven't the foggiest.

WG I'd recommend a Phil and Teds, or else one of those side by side 'out and abouts'. I always think it's nicer for them both to be able to see out and think p&t's are a bit limiting for viewing as little one gets bigger. You can get side by side p&t's as well. Think they all come with little cocoon for tiny babies. We have maclaren triumph. Its ok, but wouldn't recommend it for 1st couple of months and it's v v heavy for pushing. Good for bingo wings but tiring!

Strangely was feeling hungry post puke. Had 2 pieces of toast and Greek yoghurt. Was yummy. How odd am I?

It's freezing tonight isn't it?

Wow I cross posted with loads too. This movie is great but DS2 has been up twice already so have thrown some calpol at him. His poor little teeth.

Lady I wish I could pop in at nap time take DD1 upstairs, make you a Dutch Safari then I'd be off again ready to pop back the next day.

Beans I don't know what the pinyin for it is but it sounds like niao niao. Like a cats miao but with an 'n'

WG I think there is a place down in Kent that does something similar.

Oh & on the counting thing DS2 can't count yet but if someone else is counting like DS1, us or on the Tele he'll chime in with "8,9" at the appropriate moment which is quite random

Dutch Safaris all round! (Two for me please).

Bless you, Veggie.

Crawss-posted with lots too.

WG, we have a second hand iCandy Pear, thus but I haven't used it yet as I can't push. I do know Rubes rates the P&T. DD1 isn't anal as such but she sure is bossy We have the repeating thing too - it's very cute.

Beans, I had forgotten your friend had a son I worry what I said might sound patronising to her, but my heart really goes out to her. WHat has happened is unbelievably cruel.

Spot, we don't have a VCR but I will deffo make you a cd. No pressure, don't feel you have to take it seriously or anything.

You are all so kind about my whinging about my day. So much of it is temporary so I should count myself lucky. And whilst it is tiring and really hard at the moment, having ttwo, I do love them to pieces.

WG I had a friend whose son was a bit anal about mess and being clean if he saw someone drop rubbish in public he would rant about it crying out at the top of hid little voice "ook mummy, DIRTY DIRTY!"

Lady I do think you've had it quite bad, I know CS is quite major and can take time before you can do stuff but this does seem quite extreme. I'm glad you adhereing to the advice though. I think you need some of your mums mini magnums.

Right really should go to bed.

Must stop thinking about krispy cream donuts.

Could someone set me up with a coffee IV and a soothing eye mask please? DH is away at a family funeral and DS2 has been up screaming for a good bit last night and at 6am. Of course DS1 woke at 6 as well and crawled into bed too demanding attention. I love them dearly but could do without adjudicating (Mummy! He's pushing me!) before sunrise.

Spot: I have started a propaganda campaign for an outing to Brighton as one of DH's friends has a flat there. It would be lovely to see you :).

DHL-ing above items to you now, Effie.
Yay for propaganda campaign. Can I help design the posters?
Boo for bad night. I think they have a sixth sense to be at their worst when you're on your own and need the sleep.

Hi Someone said about the wrist strap. Yes I've been thinking about getting one of those as he'd feel less restricted.

As Lady said I def Rate the P&T highly WG I had the single Out-N-About and they are Brilliant for a single (v lightweight) but I don't like the side by sides in the doubles as they take up so much room, and going through doorways etc. ds hates sitting at the back on the P&T but only as he's near the ground and wants to get out. dd won't know any difference as the littlest has to go in the back seat

Toddler groups have been great ds really enjoys them. Am meeting up with one of the mums tomorrow who has an equally nutty dog who needs exercise - kiddies illnesses & weather permitting, though I'm a bit worried about keeping an eye on dog while ds does his stunt man act in the playground. Might suggest my house instead and back garden for dogs

Still snottastic all round here, but dd napping in cot and ds playing nicely

How are you Lady and Spot?

I'm in another foul mood, but just because I feel like stabbing DP in the eyes with a biro. He needs to stop criticising everything I do and sort himself out. That's it.

Glad the toddler groups working out, Rubes, I find them invaluable. Also gives you a nanosecond to take your attention away and have a cup of tea/coffee/unidentifiable tepid dishwater drink and a stale biccie. Yum.

I'd second the idea of inviting the mum to your place, if you think the dogs would be happy playing in the garden?

Snotsville around here too. In fact when I went to a playgroup this morning, one of the mums pointedly said to T, "I think your mymmy needs to wipe your nose, doesn't she?". I was so tempted to tell her where to shove her interfering arse, esp after having been told what to do in the house all morning, but I just smiled icily at her and said, "no need to worry yourself, I'm on it, thank you so much". But I feel up for a ruck now.

I've also realised that due to recent posts, my name no longer feels very appropriate. I should call myself Spotofrantyness or similar.

OK, so this is 3 and out. Just found out today that the offer we made on one of the houses we liked on the same road has been accepted! Only thing is, the sellers have to find somewhere in Sheffield (where the guy has a job) as part of their mortgage deal so could be a while but at least we can hopefully stop the epic house hunt. And we got it for 335 (was on at 369) so Phil & kirsty should be pleased...

DP has apologised so temporary peace has returned.

Spot I don't react well when people make passive aggressive remarks through children either, as above "I think mummy needs to..."

I am a friendly person (I think) but never really prospered with my local toddler group. Glad you and Rubes are getting the benefit of them, though. I will make a superhuman effort at the new placE.

That is smashing about the house - is your DP pleased, or...? Hey, good he apologised.

Rubes, I am feeling slightly more chipper this morning, thanks - another hard night but DP kindly did the 7am feed and didn't have to go out until late and DD1 and I slept in until 10.15! So feeling more human. But it's still tough - sat down for a bit to lunch at 15.51! Shoulder fading? Any exciting plans for the week? And how is your lovely DD?

Right, typing with a tiny baby on my knee isn't ideal so I need to retutn later...There is far too much CBeebies in this house at the mo. I am losing touchwith the world and it was the big spending review today, need to check out the cuts.

Pubes that was me this is the harness. I think I'm going to borrow my friends instead of deliver to here. But they are super long to def good for giving them space to roam.

Was going to do a new thread title of "there's a small Spot on the horizon" but its probably a bit early for that isn't it. Don't want to jinx Spot to pop early. Any ideas?

Spot what a sad lady. Having how would the snot effect her, unless her child decides to lick T's upper lip its not really a problem. I actually tell DH off for wiping the boys nose too much if they have a cold or are teething because they end up with a saw area around their little nostrils. I'm sure she's the same women who used to tut whilst my DS1 climbed the wrong way up the slide when he was little.

Poor little DS2 is having so much pain with these molars but he's enjoying our little holiday anyway. He just cant eat what he wants. Today he desperately wanted a green apple but cried with every bite. We managed to convince him to have a conference pear which was a little softer. He slept well last night right through until 5 am but then wanted to feed for ages as I think it helps the pain. So today he has been on regular calpol & neurofen.

Anyhoo, the boys had a lovely time today, we fed a big gaggle of geese who came by our bungalow, then we rode over to the safari park and did a little boat trip which gave us a view of yet more animals. Then we walked around part of the footpath around the safari park. It's quite extensive so we'll go back tomorrow.

Pubes I think if the dogs will play well in the garden your place is a better idea as I can't imagine how difficult it would be to hold a conversation, watch a toddler, placate a baby & control the hound.

Glad you managed some sleep Lady. How is the wound?

I have spent the day with my parents, grandfather and his partner and have had passive aggressive comments up to here (gesticulates wildly). Love them dearly, but... Fave so far 'your grandpa is away for Christmas so we'll be all on our own. That'll be a nice change.' hnnnuuuuughhhh

DH working late tonight, I have a bot of something so these little darlings had better go to bed and stay there. DS2 has been running round outside all afternoon and is now actually eating his tea (fish fingers) so I am hopeful.

Spot: good news on the house! The Sheffield thing might be a blessing as it takes the pressure to move off a bit.

Rubes: I lve toddler groups. Even with the other mums. Most of them are great, but you do get the odd one.

Lady: how are you feeling? Is DD1 any calmer?

Hi Veggie! Your holiday sounds ace. Your boys will have such amazing memories of living over there. I am, as ever, cheered by the way you and your DH enjoy spending time together as a family :).

hey ladies
Just a quickie as I have a million other things I ought to be doing...
spot the snot-lady makes me It's none of her business! Grrr. Great news on the house and even greater news on the apology
WG I forgot to say, when we were having The Great Teethbrushing Debate, that I tried your simple but oh so marvellous "aaaah" "eeeeee" thing and it works a treat! P no longer refuses to let me near her, and even wants me to do her teeth instead of DH! Thankyou
(just re-read that. Obvsiously I meant instead of DH doing her teeth, not instead of me 'doing' dh !)
A little sad moment today - you know Phoebe fell out of her high chair last week and bruised her cheek and eye? Well today she stuck her tongue out and I saw that there's a huge area that's red and bruised, so she must have done that when she fell Bad neglectful mother.
This is very odd. L is out at a Rainbows disco until 8.30pm (2 hours after bedtime - am I very stupid?!), and I'm sitting here in my PJs! I think I'm having a vision of the future...!
I've got weird sore armpit/ edge of boobs. Feels like they're bruised - started on L side about a week ago and now it's on both sides. Maybe glands I suppose but I'm not ill. Odd.
Right. Must prepare our bible study for tomorrow's home group. And must be finished in time for the apprentice! Watched it for the first time last week and I'm hooked

Hi everyone. Much better today but still very ropey but temperature pretty much gone now so hope I am fixed! Was lucky as ds is in nursery most of the day on tues and dh came home early. Good as I was struggling to get out of bed! Unfortunately dh thinks he may have it now. Hope not as we are meant to be going to mil's this weekend and she will get really stroppy if we can't go. She's already been bitching about how we haven't been down to visit for ages. Sigh. If we can't go spot can bring round hot toddies though, haha!

I go to toddler groups but I find it hard to get to know people well. Ds likes them though. Doesn't help that I don't seem to make it lots of weeks. How rude was that woman though spot? I would have been scared by your icy response though in fact you sound quite ferocious in general at the moment. But funny at the same time. Glad your dh has apologized oh and what fab news about the house!!! Maybe dh will get more
into Brighton now you are buying??

Hi trace!! Poor pheobe and her bruise. Am sure she will be ok though. Laughing at you in your pjs while l is out partying!!

Rubes hope the snot is retreating.

Ladyt glad to hear you are feeling a bit better. Still sounds like hard going at the moment though so try to take it easy where you can.

SL glad your feeling better, shame DH has it now too. Obviously his will be a lot worse, as he has the male version :o though shouldn't joke as he has just gotten over pneumonia. Speaking of which would that not be part of the reason why you havent been down to see MIL for a while. Well that and the trying to raise a small family thing. Well at least you'll have some fun stories of her immaturity & tantrums when you go see her.

Trace, DS2 still has a little indentation in his head from a fall last December. It was carelessness on our part but we are still loving parents. Oh & don't forget my squashing DS2's finger in the door frame then leaving him to cry.

Sadly I'm a pussy cat in RL, Summer, I can do sarcasm but not outright lairyness. I save that up for t'internet. V glad you are feeling better though. If DH has it, can MIL visit you and take DS off your hands for the day?

Trace that is weird about your pain, sounds like it could be lymph glands, are you feeling run down? LOL at L the dirty stopout. T goes to bed at 8.30, I go at 10. It's not v grownup, going to bed less than 2 hours after your toddler, is it??

Lady did you manage to get DD1 to watch the spending review? Still, better than the eye burning hideousness that is Mighty Mites. T already has a crush on SJ . He is so mainstreamly heterosexual.

Effie sounds like you need wine. I hope you have some available and get an early night.

Veg please don't mention me in the next thread, I am soooo not ready for this baby. I doubt I will be in Dec/Jan to be honest, but I suspect he will have other ideas. Hope DS2's teething better. Little sausage. I love seeing photos of him and his big bro, they are so cute and smiley and gorgeous.

Have to get T's hair cut tomorrow. Will be his first ever haircut. Right now he looks like a cross between Boris Johnson and an East German rock singer circa 1989. NOT a good look.

Oh how I loathe Sarah Jane and her stupid red outfit. The only more slappable face on cbeebies is the mum in Grandpa in my pocket.

Ps: my evening got a lot better. Boys asleep, DH home and wine. Plus I'm working from home tomorrow so no commute.

Hey everyone, how are you all? I?ve loved reading the midwife vs doctor discussion. Can I belatedly add my two penn?orth? In hospital, both the midwives and the doctors were calm and fought my case throughout ? but the registrar was a nightmare (just as Veggie said, about forgetting there is a mind attached to the body). She arrived on the scene announcing that I needed to be induced as my waters had broken, and wouldn?t stop talking at me when I was trying to explain I was contracting every 5 minutes. And then later on, when DD?s heartrate slowed right down and everyone else was calmly analysing the situation, she took DH to one side and told him his baby was dying and I probably would too. I think he came closest to dying of all of us, from the shock of that, whereas I was just made to feel safe by those looking after me ? and all that in the same room! But the very nicest person I met was the auxiliary nurse who looked after me afterwards, the one who brought me a cup of tea and gave me a bed bath ? heaven! It is true that DD?s birthday was the best day of my life, but I don?t often admit that it was mainly down to that cuppa and bed bath, and not the 20 hours of huffing and puffing and pooing and pushing that went before.

How is sleep and the hardball approach going Spot? I fear I may have gone a little too hard ball. On Monday night DD woke up around 1 and DH went to her and brought her into our bed ? which is a habit I?m working hard to break. Anyway I snapped something like ?FFS its 1am, go back to her room? and the next thing I know my alarm was going off and I was alone ? and both DD and DH were asleep in her room because he thought I?d banished them both . But seriously Spot, this sounds so hard right now and I?m thinking of you and really hoping it all picks up

Avo woohoo! I am really pleased you?re going for that house, I?ve been lurking and secretly yearning for that one

Ok, time to admit that neither DH nor I have life insurance, a will, nothing, nada. Please can someone advise what we should have? I regularly feel guilty by never know what to do, where to go etc etc

Jolly was your scan 12 weeks or 20? I?m pleased all was perfect. Hope L gets better soon, sounds awful (especially if you?re still feeling sicky yourself)

Counting ? DD can manage two. And if there?s more than two things to count she goes ?one two two two two two ?? until everything is counted

Rubes we have some reins for DD and have used them religiously since she started to walk, as there are far too many big tractors in the farmyard and fields for me to even contemplate not having her under close control. She loves them, and tries to put them on just to go out in garden or somewhere safe like the playground, and gets quite upset when I take them off.

Has anyone?s LO?s suddenly become terrified of something? DD howls and howls and howls when the geese honk at her, and while I?ll admit that all 20 of them at it is loud and quite intimidating, she just used to be amused by them. Apart from arranging a vast Christmas feast, I can?t really do much about it, but it is the saddest thing to have to see.

Summer I?m glad your flu has passed quickly, I can?t imagine how you coped through it.

WG I thought of you, and your MIL, tonight when DD insisted on clearing out the crumb tray of the toaster

As it is almost tomorrow, I must go to bed. Night night x

zj - i just snorted at your toaster reference!

also, madam was terrified by a snowy owl at a local animal petting zoo - she was so looking forward to seeing it (she loves owls), ran up to it, it then did a fearsome squawk at her and she immediately burst into tears and ran into dh's arms (that's how upset she was, she was happy to go to dh). when she had to walk past it again, we picked her up and she closed her eyes as she passed it so she couldn't see it. bless. dh has now taught her that if the owl does it to her, he will eat it. so now madam goes around saying "daddy eaty owl" and "rosie eaty owl". apols to the vegetarians on here, but i quite like this plan of dealing with her owl phobia.

how worrying for your poor dh in that delivery room. i have to reiterate how wonderful the midwives were in the delivery room and how hard they tried to reassure us that they'd try to help me not to have an emcs, even though i did in the end. but the postnatal midwives: meanest, most ignorant, noisiest bunch of women i've ever come across.

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