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Dec 08 Ladies - LIghtning Strikes... and the usual gossip!

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Beans33 · 09/08/2010 10:32

Hope this works for everyone - I'm assuming Summer won't give birth in the next few hours!! x

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Beans33 · 05/09/2010 12:34

Yes, although had that lovely one back in May, so that was nice. And he's bought tickets for my Mum +1 to go to the Strictly Come Dancing Tour in the 02 in January and she's going to take me too! It was a thank you for looking after me and DDs after the arrival of Pru in June! How nice is that?!

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DeidreBarlow · 05/09/2010 17:46

ladyt I am so sorry you are feeling so low at themoment. Its a horrible feeling. You have given me so many words of advice/comfort/support whenI have been down, I wish I could give you some of your wonderful advice now. fWIW I think you are a fabulous lady and I am certain that things will improve for you soon.

jam I meant to say I thought the jumpsuit looks great.

Bah DC's fighting back soon...

Rubena · 05/09/2010 19:33

Still quiet here. We are already discussing holidays, but then get massive cold shivers at the thought of 2 of them on a plane. Had another blocked duct I think - same place. Hot bath, and a pump seems to have cleared it but what's left of my milk is hardly worth it.
ds been much better since all the visitors have left Hmm
I managed to burn his mouth on some carbonara tonight though to put an end to his good mood [bad mother]
Went to Mothercare to return something and ended up spending 50 quid - jeez!!

Wow Beans glad you are on top of it now. Glad you feel comfortable to talk about it to us Smile and glad it helps. Where on earth is a disco for a nearly 2 year old? made me Grin Bet it's a laugh!

How are you feeling Lady? And how's O's recent steps progressed?

Still feeling low, but opened another bottle of cheerfulness tonight to try and knock it on the head Grin 2 glasses down and no luck so far Hmm
Massive bang outside..... must investigate....

Rubena · 05/09/2010 19:43

Must've b een a car back firing.
Have put a few recent pics on FB now

Veggiemummy · 05/09/2010 20:05

Gorgous pics Pubes and wow you are so slim, you must be almost back to pre preg weight!!!! I think you need the cheerfulness calories. But seriously, this is a difficult time mental health wise if you keep feeling blue don't hesitate to have a chat with your GP will you. I know it's hard to say goodbye to family but it will be helpful for BF (if you decide to continue) and routine in general for all of you to get back to a bit of family normality.

Beans that is quite a lovely thing to do for your mum.

We had a lovely day today. Went for a long ride out to the sand dunes north of us here. The boys had a brilliant time running around in them and climbing them. DS2 is quite the climber. Then we rode into town via a beautiful scenic route past some beautifulnhouses and had dinner at a great pizza place. Home now and tired but happy. We need to do this more often so I can look like Pubes.

traceface · 05/09/2010 20:31

hi all Smile
ladyt I'm so sorry to hear how you're feeling. I can't imagine the pain of grief and don't know what to say to you, but I am thinking of you and hoping the sadness lifts. It's so sad to have lost those friendships too, but I'm sure your London pals haven't forgotten you. You are such a wonderful support on this thread and I really hope things turn around for you soon.
Pubes poor you having all these goodbyes. It must be such a wrench for you. And on the burnt mouth thing - I gave L a cheese toastie last week which she bit straight into and managed to burn her cheek on, and got a proper blister and everything Sad Oops.
deidre so glad that dd enjoyed her first days at school. I can't believe it's 1.5 years since L started! I remember thinking it was a bit sad and strange that she had a life without me and that I didn't know everything she was doing anymore - she was having experiences and learning things entirely independant of me!
sorry not to do a full catch up today ladies.
back soon x

sybilfaulty · 05/09/2010 20:32

Hello lovelies

Sorry for radio silence but I have been at work for the last 5 days and have to go again tomorrow. Remind me never to lead a course again. Very annoying.

Am being assailed by DD1 who is banging on about having a kitten and trying to cook our supper at the same time. Just wanted to send huge love to you all. I have been reading but haven't had time to post. Beans, I got your text today and will reply properly tomorrow. Would love to see you - perhaps we can sort something out in the next couple of weeks?

WG, I am sorry things are hard with DH being busy. Is there some time off on the horizon oonce he has finished the recordings?

LadyT, I am sorry you are so low just now. I think the swirl of hormones before one delivers is a maelstrom at the best of times, and having a house renovation, a move, cash worries and career issues on top of a new baby is a lot for anyone, without the added sadness of missing Harry and everything associated with that very sad time. we are all here to support you. I am sorry that there has been such grief and stress coming at youo from other quarters. Veg is right, as always - if these people are being sods and avoiding contact, it is completely their loss. You are such a warm and generous friend that you deserve to be treasured. I am thinking of you darling. Will you have time to have a flying visit (me to you)before DD2 touches down, or can I visit you all once she is here?

Rubes, I am very aware that I still haven't met your lovely DD. Can we hook up soon too? I feel for you missing your family. Several of my friends are from SA and miss their families like crazy, even though they visit frequently and are in approx the same time zone.

Avo - well done for getting treatment for your phobia. You have done bloody well though to get this far with it. Fingers crossed that you can get it sorted relatively swiftly.

Hope JJ is enjoying Venice, the lucky thing!

Hello everyone else. Sorry for not more personals but I am shattered and losing the ability to write in decent English. I am at wrok tomorrow so will try to slot in another post then.

Lots lof love.

Rubena · 05/09/2010 20:48

Thanks Vag, but not a chance regarding weight. At last weigh in about a week ago I was 7kg off my pre baby weight, and at that I was 3kg up on normal weight so still 10kg to go Confused

Yeah there is a certain amount of normalcy regained already - even the dog has settled down (got her neutered a couple of weeks ago so poor girl had an op too!)

Sybs definitely.... and you too Beans, Lady and Spot!

spotofcheerfulness · 05/09/2010 20:55

Hi everyone, well I'm back sooner than I thought I'd be, DP has only been in the house half an hour, enough to eat the dinner I'd made him, have an argument and then go off to bed Hmm. He is absolutely wasted after a very exhausting week work-wise, but then last night they all had a big blow out and were out until 5am. So he is more than a little delicate. But when it sounded like he was trying to get out of doing stuff when he got back (he said, "i'm going to be hungover for the next two days") I suggested that might not be my fault and he stormed off in a huge huff. I have no problem with him staying out til whenever, but I've not exactly been putting my feet up here and could do with some pitching in now he's back. Angry. And I'm just a bit sad that we've not seen each other in 10 days and the first thing we do is argue.

Lady I'm so sorry I wasn't able to respond to your message last night, and that you've been feeling so low. Not only would anyone do in your shoes, but I'm always amazed by how upbeat you are, considering just how much you've got on your plate. And now money worries to add to that. Just please don't feel you have to be up or do personals or anything if you don't feel like it, let the basket support you when you are in need of it.

Rubes, sorry you too have been feeling crap. I can't imagine what it's like to have family on the other side of the world. Maybe T and I could come for a visit not this coming week but the following one? No worries of you're not up to it. Oh, and your Fbook pix are fab, and I echo everyone who says how great you look Envy. Sorry about the sore boobie though.

WG I would love to come to one of your DH recordings, will see if I can swing it with DP to get an early night off so i can come along.

Veggie so glad you had a good day, it sounds really nice and one to stave off the winter blues.

Sybs get the kitten Grin. And are you getting some TOIL for leading your course? Sounds v full on.

Veggiemummy · 05/09/2010 21:28

Oh Spot that's a bit crap really. Rows are no fun at the best of times but worse for him being away so long. You know what would help, if to could somehow be closer together when he's on these long trips away to Amsterdam, I don't know like staying with friends in The Hague....sorry cheeky.

I'm watching secret Britain. It really is quite a beautiful island. My friends back home really don't understand how beautiful it is, Australians seem to think they have a monopoly on beautiful landscape but esp after living in the Peak district & cycling around Isle of White and other east Anglian parts I really think England has some just amazingly beautiful places. And so easy to get to. I still can't believe that we used to be able to walk through some farmers barn area and up a hill and there we were wandering around an ancient stone circle! It all
Makes my dunes today seem a bit dull.

LadyThompson · 06/09/2010 07:46

Hello girls

I woke up at 5.38 this morn. That really isn't bad as I only had 20 mins of head in hands as once it was 6 I felt stragnely better, as 6 anything seems vaguely civilised. Or am I mad? Anyway, I can't thank you all enough for your kind support. I am still struggling, tbh. It actually isn't like me to feel like this for more than a day or two. However, I do take hope from the fact that (some) things will start to ease off one by one over about the next month and I do strongly believe that the potent pregnancy hormones are magnifying everything, plus the strain of working on the house more or less every spare minute! Again, though, you have all really helped me, so thanks to everyone who has chipped in. And DP is being kind. He can be an impatient bugger and I know he is really trying to help.

Spot, I am sorry about that row. Apart from missing someone when they have been away, when you have also needed a bit of help and they aren't in a position to provide it I think it would ratchet up the emotional temperature even further. Start afresh today, if you haven't already.

Beans, that is intense about the bulimia. Wow. I can see how it could get to be an addiction, that. I understand about that fatty feeling and how corrosive it is. But it's early days to be pressurising yourself about weight (I'm a hypocrite there, though, as I am doing it and my poor babe isn't even born).

To which end - Rubes, I can scarcely believe you have 10kg to shed, having seen you recently! Well, I have put on about 8kg now. I am kinda hoping that's it for the weight gain, with 3 weeks left. But even leaving that aside, I still had 12-13kg to get rid of before I was preg, so that little project will keep me busy, post recovery. Anyway, enough of that. I am sorry you are still feeling low after the folks' departure. Completely understandable. Do think you need little beacons of things to look forward to, though, of varying kinds! The 6 wk check (wow, can it really be 6 wks?) doesn't really cut it!

Sybs, I know you offered to come and visit and I would adore to have you and I know I have been crap organising it, but that is really because of our stupid schedule with the house at the mo. I think I might struggle to get something sorted in the next three weeks but please please come and see the lot of us when the latest Lady has made an appearance.

DD is still persisting with calling me Lady. It's several weeks now. Oh, Rubes, you asked about the walking - she is very tottery and since those few independent steps has gone back to simply enjoying cruising! But that's fine and I feel it's merely a case of getting her confidence up now.

Avo, what did you decide about the MMR? DD was a little unwell bang on 10 days after it, but it quite mild. I think it's v variable as others have said. Oooh, you have that lovely wedding to attend soon, I bet you are so looking forward to it.

Re: the beauty of the English countryside, Veg, I am a bit ashamed to say I take it for granted sometimes, especially living round here. I'm still laughing that you had an Aussie flag on your backpack to ensure you weren't mistaken for being English Grin I genuinely think most Brits are in denial about their image in the wider world.

Ok, so the MIL has been here since yesterday afternoon. DP is in court virtually all week so it will be me and her most of the time. She wants to help so I really can't be too harsh, but she is so trying. Anyway, the kitchen is starting to take shape and I have to have the living room completely decorated by Friday (currently dirty and untouched and with a bare concrete floor, as it has been used as a repository for kitchen, appliances and tools) as the carper fitter is coming. Ulp. Ditto the landing and three sets of stairs. What a shame magic pixies aren't real. I wish I could borrow Santa's elves for a week Grin I have to dash to London tonight (just for the evening) for a house meeting. It's the AGM of our building and I am on the management committee. Too dull for words. Have good Mondays, all.

Beans33 · 06/09/2010 08:43

Bloody hell, Rubes - you look amazing! I would love to look as good as that so soon after having a babe!

Right, I have to go as am going for consultation re my coil. Nice.

Laters.

x

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DeidreBarlow · 06/09/2010 08:44

Morning lovely ladies...picking up where I had to dash off last night...

rubes It must be so hard for you having all your family here one minute and then gone the next. My sister only lives in Plymouth but I always feel really sad when sh's gone home. I think its knowing they are not there just to pop around for a cuppa, and you know it will be such a long time until the next visit. Waffling now, I hope you feel better soon. BTW you look FAB inyour FB photos...not just in themI'm sure you look fab in RL tooGrin

spot Such a shame about the row,especially after him being away for a long time. I hope once his hangover eases today you will be friends again.

beans Gosh bullimia. I think its great you can now be open about it, you are obviously doing very well in your recovery..

sybs Sounds like you are working way too hard, are you having some time off when the course is finished?

veggie your bike ride sounded great. I love your days out they always make me wish I was there! And you are very right about GB,DH and I had a similar conversation last night about how beautiful some places are.

lady I wish I could come over and help you on the house or something practical togive you a bit of a break. Its no surprise you are feeling so low with such a lot on your plate. I know the schedule on the house is tight but I really think you could do with a couple of days away from it and do nothing. Thinking of you x

EffiePerine · 06/09/2010 09:08

Lady: glad you got some rest. Those pesky hormones certainly won't be helping. FWIW I wouldn't hide the issues from your mum - you don't need to tell her everything but I would bet that she knows you're nt entirely happy and is quietly worrying about it but not saying anything. Obviously you don't want to load more stress onto her but there is no shame in admitting that you're finding things a bit tough. Sometimes you need to congratulate yourself at having made it to the end of the day intact. I am casting on your baby hat and thinking good things about your little family and the new house. Do you have a garden btw? I can't remember, but was there talk of mad chickens?

Veggiemummy · 06/09/2010 09:27

Oh Lady imagining you so sad when you first wake in the morning breaks my heart. And listening to all you have to do this week it all seems too much and with MIL thrown in I'm not sure how you cope. The work your describing sounds like it would be a lot for trained workmen to do let alone a heavily pregnant (but very chic) women. When you say the bare concrete floors you don't mean your laying the flooring do you. Also do you have a face mask for when you painting, poor baby getting all those fumes, make sure that old bag does some of it.

I think I almost have DS2 off to sleep. He usually has a nap just after lunch but he has a jab appointment at 1pm today and as DS1 pick up is 2.50pm he wouldn't have time for a proper sleep so having an early nap is brilliant. Unfortunately next door has decided to start drilling in the wall near his head so I'm going to stay until they stop to make sure beverage asleep.

EffiePerine · 06/09/2010 09:27

Right, have finally managed to add some blurry and rather rubbish photos of our meet up on FB (in the Dec 08 mums group). Nolda : you're not in my friends, which I will remedy asap :).

Veggiemummy · 06/09/2010 09:32

Hi Effie, you've tagged me into a photo but I can't seem to access it will go to thr group section and see if I can find them.

KiwiPanda · 06/09/2010 10:16

Morning all. LadyT I was up (thanks to DD) at 5.25 - yesterday she slept till nearly 6 and it was amazing the difference it made, there is definitely a big pyschological difference between numbers that start with 5 and those that start with 6.. I hope you are feeling ok today - I do agree that you could seriously use a couple of days off, with some pampering and meeting up with friends. I know you've got loads to do but it might make the rest of the time more efficient if you feel properly rested and happy?

With apologies for moving on to myself, I have slept better the last two nights, which is good, but feeling really miserable myself today. DD has started at her new nursery (run by same people as old one, but much much nearer our house/ quicker to get to and from work and we wanted her to go there to start with, but they had longer waiting list etc). Instead of running for the door without a backward glance she now howls inconsolably when we hand her over. This morning was the first time I've done it (DH usually takes her, I pick up) and it broke my heart, I sat down outside the nursery and cried. One nice mum was sweet but when I was waiting to go in with howling DD clinging to me the others just looked at me like I was doing something wrong or annoying them, f**ing stuck up cows. Apparently she is ok for the rest of the day but part of me things "well, they would say that"...

It IS only day 4 so I know it's early days to really worry about it but I feel awful, like I'm putting her through hell just for my convenience. AND I'm off to New York for a week on Wednesday too. I've never really felt guilty about her being at nursery before because she was so so happy there - she used to howl when we came to take her AWAY! - but now I feel truly awful. She's been so sweet recently, she absolutely loves kissing me at the moment (and little boys Blush) and I'm so proud of her constant new words, it's 2 or 3 a day at the moment, I feel like I"m just traumatising her now.

Sorry, rant rant. Me me.

Avocadoes · 06/09/2010 10:42

Oh. My. Gosh. I've just viewed a house with AMAZING potential. It's right in our desired area. 80ft west facing garden. Four big bedrooms. But it's a tip. Needs loads of work. And it's right at the top of our budget so we'd have no money for the work. And we don't even have an offer on our place yet. But. But. But.

LadyT, I want to make you a serious offer. Please accept it. Next week I have two days off with no kids. I was going to pamper & indulge myself but now I want to drive to the Cotswolds and help you paint and clean. Seriously. I can't bear the idea of you doing it alone while hugely preggers and feeling down. What do you say?

And Kiwi, my DD1 turned against nursery at 18 months so I know your pain. It's horrid. At least she's happy in the day though. Can you creep by the window after 20 mins to see that for yourself? It might make you feel better.

Beans33 · 06/09/2010 10:45

Oh Kiwi - it must be SO hard. You poor love. DD1 starts nursery on 5th October and I'm dreading it!!! Sure will be ok, but I'll miss her and worry she'll be miserable. BUT I know it's for best as she'll love it and I'll enjoy spending a bit of time with DD2 who never gets a look in!!

Sure it'll get better for you.

x

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EffiePerine · 06/09/2010 11:07

Kiwi: it is early days. But that's little consolation when she's howling. Could you manage a sneaky visit at lunchtime in a wig and a false moustache?

Veggiemummy · 06/09/2010 11:08

Oh Kiwi i really feel your pain, DS1 cried so much when we sent him to nursery in London he was only there 4 months then I took him out as we decided I'd give up work & stay at home. Then at 2.5 we started him 3 mornings a week at nursery again in Derby as I was nearlypregnant and we wanted him well settled before DS2 came along. Again he cried everytime we dropped him off, then he settled in but would be upset after going back after holidays. Then we moved here and finally after 9 months we can be garanteed that he won't cry when we drop him off at school. But in all that time he really loved school, when he was old enough to express himself he told us he loved school but missed us so when we dropped him off he would show that but promptly remembered how much he loved it after we left. Now finally after all this time it's all smiles. I'm sorry those mums where horrible, they're clearly evil bitches who have boring children who don't miss them. I'm glad there was one nice mum. I'm not sure if you remember me saying how a few months back DS1 got upset before going on a school excursion and one mum told me it was my fault & I should go away! Luckily another mum was sweet to me and told me he'd be fine.

Avo that is such a lovely offer to Lady, please accept Lady.

Veggiemummy · 06/09/2010 11:13

Kiwi, could you get them to take some photos of her during the day to show how she is getting on while your not there?

DeidreBarlow · 06/09/2010 12:47

Oh kiwi I can only say that I'm sure she is fine after she settles down when you leave. I remember DD gripping me so tight when we first put her in nursery. I nearly crashed the car that evening going to pick her up I was desperate to get her out of there...but she did settle and loved it eventually. As for those mums, I think the smug cows need a slap! I also recall thenursery manager saying that DD wasn't crying because she hated nursery it was more that she was making me feel bad for going iyswim, made sense to me at the time.

Avo you brought a tear to my eye with your generous offer, lady please please please think carefully about it. I really think you need time off, just a little to clear themind and rest a little. If I lived anywhere near I would come and help myself.

Beans33 · 06/09/2010 13:29

Wow, Avo - that is a lovely offer. And Lady - think you should accept as would make the days so much nicer... And you'd both have a real laugh, I'm sure!

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