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Conservatives closing the gap on reform

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Pinkponyclub3 · 21/12/2025 01:23

Any conservative supporters here ?
Recent reports say the gap on reform is closing
Having watched some clips of kemi in action,I was quite impressed
But I don't know much about the party having never voted conservative,
Have they more of an insight in to current feeling than labour?

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HoneyParsnipSoup · 21/12/2025 01:27

Yes, I plan on voting Conservative (at the moment)

Pinkponyclub3 · 21/12/2025 01:52

I'm currently thinking the same
I've just been on their website and filled in their policy renewal program questionnaire.
I'm definitely interested in what they have planned

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Friendlygingercat · 21/12/2025 02:36

Ive been a conservative voter all my life although always very much to the right of the party. I would rather cut my throat with a rusty saw than vote Labour. I voted Reform in the last GE. I dont agree with all their policies but I do support their stance on immigration, I dont personally like Farage but I recognise his appeal. He has great charisma and is a brilliant communicator. I have also been quite impressed with Kemi recently. She has done some good speeches in parliament. If the Tories can get it together in the next few years I will be back voring for them in the next GE.

bleakmidwintering · 21/12/2025 03:26

I’m glad they are closing the gap on Reform because Farage is a lunatic that has already caused untold damage. I personally will be voting for anyone that keeps him out.

babyproblems · 21/12/2025 03:41

Friendlygingercat · 21/12/2025 02:36

Ive been a conservative voter all my life although always very much to the right of the party. I would rather cut my throat with a rusty saw than vote Labour. I voted Reform in the last GE. I dont agree with all their policies but I do support their stance on immigration, I dont personally like Farage but I recognise his appeal. He has great charisma and is a brilliant communicator. I have also been quite impressed with Kemi recently. She has done some good speeches in parliament. If the Tories can get it together in the next few years I will be back voring for them in the next GE.

I despair 😂😂😂
Nigel Farrage = a good communicator is the most batshit mad thing I’ve seen this year. He just lies with conviction 😂
I also didn’t think there was one person alive really who liked Kemi Badenoch as a political force I mean seriously 😂😂😂

Justchilling07 · 21/12/2025 03:55

babyproblems · 21/12/2025 03:41

I despair 😂😂😂
Nigel Farrage = a good communicator is the most batshit mad thing I’ve seen this year. He just lies with conviction 😂
I also didn’t think there was one person alive really who liked Kemi Badenoch as a political force I mean seriously 😂😂😂

Exactly this @babyproblems
The conservatives have a new leader now 🥳 so everything will be so much different, when they get in again!!!🙄

Fishingboatbobbingnight · 21/12/2025 04:14

Dead Ringets Radio 4. Friday evening. The best parody of ‘Kemi’ .. ‘low energy weirdo’
Sorry but after 14 years of the utter shit show of the Tories , nothing would take me there again. I work in criminal justice. I have women waiting 7 years for a rape trial ! Because there are not enough CPS lawyers, criminal defence barristers now earn less than minimum wage unless high flying KCs not people who take legal aid cases. Not enough court ushers or judges.. and even then , if this all gets overcome, then the courts themselves are so poorly maintained, they often close at short notice.
This is the reality of the Tories decimation of basic public services. Just one area. Husband works for Environment agency who no longer have resources to prosecute fly tipping ! This is basic stuff. Much more important than bloody hyped up thinly disguised ‘immigration concerns’ In the year ending June 2023, net migration was about 906,000 people (immigrants minus emigrants), one of the highest levels on record. Tories in power.

It was 604K last year and 204k this year. So get some actual facts from reputable sources like the ONS rather than right wing press propaganda as that is only telling you what you want to hear. Not what is actually happening.

As for Farage. Well I don’t have the energy. If people are really that thick. You can’t debate anything with stupidity.

HelenaWaiting · 21/12/2025 04:21

@Friendlygingercat He has great charisma and is a brilliant communicator.

This is also true of every fascist dictator, and several failed wannabes.

Justchilling07 · 21/12/2025 04:22

@Fishingboatbobbingnight thank you, you’re talking from actual experience, agree, rather than falling for, what the right wing press, want to keep pushing.

Pinkponyclub3 · 21/12/2025 12:25

Fishingboatbobbingnight · 21/12/2025 04:14

Dead Ringets Radio 4. Friday evening. The best parody of ‘Kemi’ .. ‘low energy weirdo’
Sorry but after 14 years of the utter shit show of the Tories , nothing would take me there again. I work in criminal justice. I have women waiting 7 years for a rape trial ! Because there are not enough CPS lawyers, criminal defence barristers now earn less than minimum wage unless high flying KCs not people who take legal aid cases. Not enough court ushers or judges.. and even then , if this all gets overcome, then the courts themselves are so poorly maintained, they often close at short notice.
This is the reality of the Tories decimation of basic public services. Just one area. Husband works for Environment agency who no longer have resources to prosecute fly tipping ! This is basic stuff. Much more important than bloody hyped up thinly disguised ‘immigration concerns’ In the year ending June 2023, net migration was about 906,000 people (immigrants minus emigrants), one of the highest levels on record. Tories in power.

It was 604K last year and 204k this year. So get some actual facts from reputable sources like the ONS rather than right wing press propaganda as that is only telling you what you want to hear. Not what is actually happening.

As for Farage. Well I don’t have the energy. If people are really that thick. You can’t debate anything with stupidity.

I didn't know any of this
Are labour making in roads to sorting it out

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Snowonground · 21/12/2025 18:17

Whichever party really sorts out legal and illegal immigration will get my vote. Otherwise this country is going to blow. You can just tell something really bad is coming and its scary. It may be too late. I wanted to vote Conservative, but I think they and Reform will need to do a pact to save the country.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 21/12/2025 18:26

Fishingboatbobbingnight · 21/12/2025 04:14

Dead Ringets Radio 4. Friday evening. The best parody of ‘Kemi’ .. ‘low energy weirdo’
Sorry but after 14 years of the utter shit show of the Tories , nothing would take me there again. I work in criminal justice. I have women waiting 7 years for a rape trial ! Because there are not enough CPS lawyers, criminal defence barristers now earn less than minimum wage unless high flying KCs not people who take legal aid cases. Not enough court ushers or judges.. and even then , if this all gets overcome, then the courts themselves are so poorly maintained, they often close at short notice.
This is the reality of the Tories decimation of basic public services. Just one area. Husband works for Environment agency who no longer have resources to prosecute fly tipping ! This is basic stuff. Much more important than bloody hyped up thinly disguised ‘immigration concerns’ In the year ending June 2023, net migration was about 906,000 people (immigrants minus emigrants), one of the highest levels on record. Tories in power.

It was 604K last year and 204k this year. So get some actual facts from reputable sources like the ONS rather than right wing press propaganda as that is only telling you what you want to hear. Not what is actually happening.

As for Farage. Well I don’t have the energy. If people are really that thick. You can’t debate anything with stupidity.

They also recruited 1000’s more medical students. Then they’re aren’t any jobs for them after 7 years training.

So we have not enough doctors and new doctors who can’t find jobs. This was a Boris thing.

soupyspoon · 21/12/2025 18:27

Not much of a difference surely

Beentheredonethat98 · 21/12/2025 18:32

I imagine the next election will see a lot of tactical voting to keep certain parties out of power. People will be voting AGAINST candidates not FOR them. So someone might vote Conservative to keep Reform out, or Lib Dem, or even Labour rather than allow a Reform candidate to win.
Same will apply to anyone trying to keep Your Party or the Greens out if they ever look like winning a particular seat.

Periperi2025 · 21/12/2025 18:34

I will be voting reform in the Welsh assembly election as we desperately need change in Wales and reform offer hope of that not conservative.
But i may will vote conservative in the general elections, as voting reform in the GE is more about voting for farage himself rather than reform as an alternative party, i am currently very undecided.

Beentheredonethat98 · 21/12/2025 18:44

Periperi2025 · 21/12/2025 18:34

I will be voting reform in the Welsh assembly election as we desperately need change in Wales and reform offer hope of that not conservative.
But i may will vote conservative in the general elections, as voting reform in the GE is more about voting for farage himself rather than reform as an alternative party, i am currently very undecided.

Are you not concerned that the leader of Reform in Wales was taking bribes from the Russians?

Justchilling07 · 21/12/2025 19:04

Beentheredonethat98 · 21/12/2025 18:44

Are you not concerned that the leader of Reform in Wales was taking bribes from the Russians?

Good point.Personally yes that is a huge concern
@Periperi2025 what’s your view on Reform wales being involved in taking bribes? Can they be trusted?

HermioneWeasley · 21/12/2025 19:06

I hope they do. Reform would be a disaster and Labour have been even more incompetent than feared

EasternStandard · 21/12/2025 21:26

Fishingboatbobbingnight · 21/12/2025 04:14

Dead Ringets Radio 4. Friday evening. The best parody of ‘Kemi’ .. ‘low energy weirdo’
Sorry but after 14 years of the utter shit show of the Tories , nothing would take me there again. I work in criminal justice. I have women waiting 7 years for a rape trial ! Because there are not enough CPS lawyers, criminal defence barristers now earn less than minimum wage unless high flying KCs not people who take legal aid cases. Not enough court ushers or judges.. and even then , if this all gets overcome, then the courts themselves are so poorly maintained, they often close at short notice.
This is the reality of the Tories decimation of basic public services. Just one area. Husband works for Environment agency who no longer have resources to prosecute fly tipping ! This is basic stuff. Much more important than bloody hyped up thinly disguised ‘immigration concerns’ In the year ending June 2023, net migration was about 906,000 people (immigrants minus emigrants), one of the highest levels on record. Tories in power.

It was 604K last year and 204k this year. So get some actual facts from reputable sources like the ONS rather than right wing press propaganda as that is only telling you what you want to hear. Not what is actually happening.

As for Farage. Well I don’t have the energy. If people are really that thick. You can’t debate anything with stupidity.

‘Low energy weirdo’ surely only a weirdo would think that. She’s about to beat all the other male leaders in approval ratings.

Perhaps that slur is an old out of date one.

Plus she’s running rings around Starmer each week so it’s more apt for him.

yellowspanner · 21/12/2025 21:30

I will vote Reform. They are now the biggest party so I am really hoping they'll win at the May elections

utterlytraumatised · 21/12/2025 22:05

I’m voting for whatever party sorts out migration both legal and illegal. My hometown is now destroyed and completely unsafe.

Non have tried to integrate and it’s turned into a frightening place. Then we have the grooming. I can’t face another 40 years of this.

napody · 21/12/2025 22:10

Periperi2025 · 21/12/2025 18:34

I will be voting reform in the Welsh assembly election as we desperately need change in Wales and reform offer hope of that not conservative.
But i may will vote conservative in the general elections, as voting reform in the GE is more about voting for farage himself rather than reform as an alternative party, i am currently very undecided.

Why not plaid? They won caerphilly although from the reform leaflet I got through my door you'd think reform had! How reform/'ukip mark 3' can even show their faces in the welsh valleys after the damage they've done with brexit I will never know .

Justchilling07 · 21/12/2025 22:19

napody · 21/12/2025 22:10

Why not plaid? They won caerphilly although from the reform leaflet I got through my door you'd think reform had! How reform/'ukip mark 3' can even show their faces in the welsh valleys after the damage they've done with brexit I will never know .

^ well said.

Periperi2025 · 21/12/2025 22:22

napody · 21/12/2025 22:10

Why not plaid? They won caerphilly although from the reform leaflet I got through my door you'd think reform had! How reform/'ukip mark 3' can even show their faces in the welsh valleys after the damage they've done with brexit I will never know .

Because Plaid are working towards getting rid of the last, mostly, English language secondary school in the whole county, despite many many parents/kids (including Welsh speaking ones) actively choosing to send their kids often long distances to go there. This is not democracy. I want my DD to learn her STEM subjects through English in preparation for university, i don't think this is too much to ask in the UK.

tobee · 21/12/2025 22:22

Low energy weirdo’ surely only a weirdo would think that. She’s about to beat all the other male leaders in approval ratings.

what a load of waffly nothing