Conservatives closing the gap on reform

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Any conservative supporters here ?
Recent reports say the gap on reform is closing
Having watched some clips of kemi in action,I was quite impressed
But I don't know much about the party having never voted conservative,
Have they more of an insight in to current feeling than labour?

Its got to be a centre right party. The left will be idealogically unable to take on the challenge that this country faces. I see the new head of the EHRC is saying the opposite of what the majority of the country feels (according to the polls) regarding immigration. We need more of it apparently including more asylum seekers. And we shouldn't be saying negative things about the consequences.

Not defeatist, just pragmatism.

Labour are unelectable for a second term and have no viable talent progressing through their back benches that can effectively lead them. They have broken the psychological contract with their own voters, so have no real chance of winning over the floating votes. Their polling numbers are horrible and even 3 years probably won't be enough to undo the damage.

By definition that leaves two leading candidates who will no doubt battle it out to take over.

People can argue, speculate and raise cases about ' what about...' but taxes and employment are the clincher for the majority of voters. Hurt someone in their pocket and the voters won't forgive you.

Citing years of Tory rule as being inadequate won't work either. Voters have short memories and compare how they feel now to how they felt then. Most would probably say they feel less secure and confident now than they did so will vote on feelings.

One thing the Conservatives need to do in my opinion to be in any way electable is to kick out all the closet Lib Dems in the party. Quite understandable that they were there during the Coalition but inappropriate now. They will hold the Conservatives back from doing what needs to be done.

I don’t know. I feel very politically homeless. I’m guessing it will be some sort of coalition. It could be a Reforn-Tory-DUP one, though I think a lot of Tories would have to hold their noses in order to rubber stamp that, or it could be a Labour-LibDem-Green one, perhaps with Plaid and or the SNP thrown in for good measure. I guess we need to remember that Labour have only been in post for a year and a half - and three and a half years (to the next election) is a very long time in politics, so it’s really too early to predict anything.

Reform policies create momentum and popularity Conservatives adopt them and so support increases - simple but unpalatable to some maybe but how do you gain power without the popular vote.

In your pp it seemed more certain, Kemi and Conservatives would not win.

I think it could be a broader coalition and it’s up for grabs.

I don't want to vote Reform but I don't trust the tories enough to do what they need to with regard to immigration. After all, they did nothing to sort it when they were in power and they've a mountain to climb to resolve and it. Literally millions.

Yes that's going to be their big battle. If they can do that, they have my vote.

How exactly do you think they will do this?

Farage said he would have the small boats issue resolved within a fortnight of taking power. He then changed this to within a fortnight of having changed all the laws which make this difficult. Anyone with even the vaguest understanding of the UK political process knows this will be impossible within the lifetime of a parliament.

I think stopping handouts before having paid in for 10 years for anyone that arrives here (legally or illegally) would be a start.

I totally agree.

Where are you finding this information
It's not common knowledge

Got to be done. Otherwise we are heading for civil war.

The old system of government has failed. If it cant cope with this issue its not fit for purpose sadly.

Time for Labour with their massive majority to change the voting system to PR.

That should keep Reform out.

Why would it? You’d just end up with coalitions anyway.

Because the liberal and left parties have more voters overall than Reform or Cons.

Then its civil war. You can see theres something brewing. And if the democratic system cant solve the issues, people look elsewhere.

Yeah civil war😂

So Reform voters get a mard on as the majority of the country don’t support them.

Good luck with that. You’d not last long with the markets.

😂🤣😂🤣

Employers couldn't even get their employees to go back to the office after lockdown without a fight and you think people would go out to fight in a civil war!!

Idiots throwing rocks in the streets and terrorising migrants isn't a civil war. They're just idiots.

Like Truss you mean?

Who was responsible for rhe mess the current government are trying to repair?

The gap between Conservatives and Reform isn't closing.

Voting intention shows:
13 January 2025:
Labour: 26%
Reform: 24%
Conservatives: 22%

15 December 2025:
Reform: 27%
Labour: 18%
Conservatives: 17%

Reform support has increased by 3%.
Labour support has decreased by 8%.
Conservative support has decreased by 5%.

The gap between Labour and Reform was 2% in favour of Labour and is now 9% in favour of Reform.

The gap between Conservatives and Reform was 2% in favour of Reform and is now 10% in favour of Reform.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/voting-intention

Who will take over if they react?

I suppose it’s a way to get past the left / liberal coalition pdq

Same way the got over the last one. Appoint a new leader.

The markets can’t go into meltdown over a new government. They have to take it on the chin as they’re stuck with them.

I’ve never seen the markets go into meltdown over a new government. Ever.

Im 62.