Conservatives closing the gap on reform

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Any conservative supporters here ?
Recent reports say the gap on reform is closing
Having watched some clips of kemi in action,I was quite impressed
But I don't know much about the party having never voted conservative,
Have they more of an insight in to current feeling than labour?

Theres no guarantee a civilisation continues. Especially if its people change. History shows us that.

Why do you think civil war cant happen?

A new leader within a left coalition? They’ll all be markets what markets.

As for your last line of course they can. Why not? It’s just the cost of borrowing and the pound that will cause a major issue that needs to be resolved.

And if they can’t get someone to do that it’ll continue to put practical pressure on until someone can.

Because most people really can’t be bothered.

It’s just the racist thugs stirring things up. So the civil war would be started by them.

I never said it couldn’t happen. But Britain has never had a revolution. And isn’t known for it’s rebellious nature.

Why are you agitating for a civil war?

I disagree. There are plenty of people who are very angry. You live in a bubble if you don't see it. Once AI decimate jobs and Labour crash the economy. And we are then a weak and vulnerable country. We are only 3 meals away from civil war remember. Why would you assume it could never happen?

This is bizarre. You know that the markets already react to anything to the left of Reeves. They don’t care about new governments just the return and conditions.

Always voted Labour. But they’ve pissed me off. Will never vote reform. Watching with interest!

What about the "moron premium"?

Ditto.

I said meltdown, not react.

You’ve just said they’d just get a new leader. If someone can’t be found to stabilise the markets they won’t last.

Because there isn't enough funding, military support, political will or religious zeal.

If you studied your military history, you'd see that civil wars involved significant access to resources and localised centres of power to enable the mobilisation of military power to fight an opponent. The UK has a centralised military chain of command which is answerable to the crown and government. Any uprising would be quelled very swiftly due to the lack of credible opposition (inadequate military training, funding and an opposition seat of power).

Think you need to revisit your history books.

At best it would be a few scuffles in the streets by some disorganised thugs which would lead to arrests and prison terms.

But hey, you do you 😆

You said the markets would go into ‘meltdown’ at a new government.

They have never gone into ‘meltdown’ at a new government. They have reacted as they react to everything. But they don’t ‘meltdown’

I’ll vote for whoever keeps Reform out. In my area that’s Conservative. We have a good and very proactive MP here.

However I don’t like Kemi, or any idiot saying publicly (as Kemi has) that you get Motability for ADHD. That’s bollocks and even worse is that she knows it’s bollocks but said it anyway….it placed her in the “nasty bitch” category of female politicians . I have a separate list for utter dicks (Farage)

They reacted to Reeves tears and a story on her being sidelined. Yes it’s entirely possible a whole Gov filled with politicians to the left will cause a meltdown or whatever you need to call it.

Basically a reaction to the pound and borrowing costs that would require a change of leadership and maybe party.

Markets don’t care whether it’s day 1 or day 200 they’re looking at potential policies.

You mean plenty of Reform voters?

Oh I don't know maybe nearly two decades in the military and multiple deployments involving real wars. That and studying military history for a good portion of that.

You are living in a very privileged bubble if you think lack of jobs and economic challenges are enough to make people angry enough to fight and risk their lives and their families. Civil disorder at best.

You are listening to hyperbole that is generated from a very insular view of the world.

I very much doubt there’ll be a civil war. There was one in Northern Ireland for 40 years and nobody gave a shit about that. Who would be fighting whom?

It’s not even military history.

Its political and social.

Redundant question. The answer is in the post you quoted.

Clue is in the title: civil war

Socio-economic and political factors lead to war. But it's ultimately armed conflict that turns it into war.

'War is the extension of politics by other means' Von Clausewitz

The study of military history is the development of weapons, tactics and manoeuvres. Plus the armed forces.

That is not the study of what causes, develops and resolves war. Which is what you were taking about. Civil war is hardly military.

Theres plenty of religious zeal. Just perhaps not the onr you are thinking of.

We've already got sectarian politics. 5 MPs supporting another country for religious reasons. Interesting to see how many more will be elected in 2029.

No. Im angry and Im not a Reform voter.

There will be plenty of young people twiddling their thumbs looking for something to do and blame once Ai takes hold. And Labours employment policies.

We dont have enough of an army to defend our country. There are more illegal young men who have come in than the whole headcount of the army. What if Russia attacks NATO? Who will be left defending us at home
I can easily see the shit hitting the fan. A lot of people detest this government and want an alternative. And if Labour gerrymander the election or cancel elections (ahem) then people will seek alternative methods to register their dissatisfaction.

Kemi is saying the right things to get back all the voters that defected away due to the hopeless Sunak who caused their vote to collapse. Once voters have forgotten about Sunak, a lot of the defected Tory voters will go back to vote Tory next time if their leader and manifesto are half way sensible, rather than Farage/Reform.