Left wingers seem as bad as right wingers

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I’ve seen so many people this last week who see themselves as such “right on” virtuous people posting the most horrible things on social media.

One replied to a post about Charlie Kirk, it was basically a “sorry not sorry” post because he’s so hateful. When asked by someone if she’s actually seen any of his debates she said she didn’t need to, the facts are there that he was basically a fascist who incites violence. FWIW I’ve watched several of his videos since seeing her post today and seen nothing that suggests this, even though I don’t agree with his opinion on many things (but apparently he’s doing it in code, whatever that means)

Another friend was ranting about the protest in London and using really horrible terms to describe people that went. I hate what the flags have come to represent, and I don’t doubt that there were many thugs there just wanting to stir up hate. Surely though, describing all who went to the protest as the same (basically they’re all thick as shit racist hooligans) is no better than someone describing all immigrants as benefit chasing potential rapists (or insert any other racist stereotype)

Am I missing something? Or is it considered acceptable to make sweeping generalisations as long as you’re on the left side of the political spectrum?

Deny deny deny

It is obvious what happened given the evidence we have even now. You probably agree with him that CK was abhorrent and hateful.

When he was nothing of the sort.

The mistake that you're making is to assume that all of the poor, the vulnerable and the disadvantaged are racist reform types. That's pretty offensive, don't you think?

It is certainly true that Reform is drawing a lot of support from disadvantaged communities because many people in those communities are more vulnerable to manipulation. However, being poor and having morals aren't mutually exclusive and there are plenty of people in those disadvantaged communities who are utterly disgusted by the lurch to the right.

A transcript of the messages has been submitted as evidence to the court. The transcript is publicly available and has been reported widely in the media. A five second Google will show the contents of the messages.

An extremist is awful not matter what end of the spectrum they sit on

This is a good place to let Jonathan Pie sum this whole topic up in his inimitable style..

Gosh.
Assholes can lean politically right or left. It's separate and distinct

I’m not talking about the make up of communities but the way the left are insulting these people who seem to be predominantly from working class communities . I would suggest the majority of the left are now from middle class Islington enclaves with their constant virtual signaling and the finances to not be worried about this governments mishandling of the economy .

That would be covered by point c

No. The left are calling out racism, they are not attacking the working classes.

There are plenty of middle class racists. Look at Farage, for example.

There are also plenty of working class people who utterly reject racism.

It is those on the right who are trying to characterise this as some sort of new class war, but we all know that Farage and his cronies don't give a shit about the poor.

“When asked by someone if she’s actually seen any of his debates she said she didn’t need to, the facts are there that he was basically a fascist who incites violence”

I wonder if that woman sees the irony in what she said

I think left wingers are more dangerous and harmful to people.

There are plenty of "poor" not protesting, and plenty of "rich". And the people protesting have never been particularly quiet. They are not one and the same.

The left champions social equality, and policies which they feel would acheive this (along with many other things), this would benefit "the poor". You can believe someone is a racist, and still believe in social equality, the right to freedom, healthcare and education etc for those people. You can belive people you deem racist are entitled to equality. You are conflating a political view with a personal opinion on an individual person. No leftist person has said "I believe in a socialist society but not for those racists"

I don't believe we need to pussy foot around racists, especially in a social space.

The left (or ‘The Far Left’, as they should be called since they call anyone who is NOT left ‘The Far Right’ are far worse.

The Left hate ABBA!

Have never been? The lesson of
history is that humanity is capable of absolute horror from all ideological perspectives, but never more so than when certain they have virtue on their side.

I couldn’t agree more

The left’s agenda is literally about helping those people. It’s not the left that’s pushing them away, it’s the right wing brainwashing that that’s what the left are saying and doing. But as I’ve said before, I think we’ll need to hit rock bottom before that’s realised and possibly not even then. The ship is going down with the left and right wing onboard with the right-wing rich looking on from the shore. Not even looking on, they’ll be laughing and playing golf.

I just can’t imagine, whatever happened to me, a place where I would think Trump was a good option.

Far Right and Far Left - there is no difference between them

they don't accept any opinions other than their own
they are intolerant and bigoted
they like the sound of their own voice far too much
they lack the ability to appreciate nuance
they are complete bores and I'm glad I don't inhabit their world because it's utterly miserable and oppressive. Give me peace of mind any day.

You’re assuming here that I’m right wing. I’m not, I’ve never voted conservative and certainly won’t be voting reform.

I’m just shocked at some of the stuff my left leaning friends have been posting which show that they don’t really have any understanding or tolerance of how anyone else thinks. They can’t fathom that some little old lady might be intimidated when the hotel up the road is filled with young men who hang around on the streets in gangs. This isn’t “right wing rhetoric” either, it happens in our local town.

We would all probably be considered too right or too left by others. I prefer to discuss the details of what people say they want rather than the theory and the grand ideas.

So if you’re proudly leftist. What would you do if you got in to power? What policies? And no ‘make the rich pay and make everyone be excellent to each other’ stuff. The actual actions you would take? The new laws? I find the left rarely have the detail or the answers but want the virtue points.

Far left Chairman Mao and Stalin
Far Right Hitler
Either scenario I'm toast! Give me a moderate centrist society anyday with a large dose of democracy and free speech. Also manners, I like manners.

I've been horrified and disgusted at all the left wing pp in America making cruel, gloating posts and videos about the murder of Charlie Kirk in America. No one deserves to be murdered for their views. Ever. And then you see them defacing tributes to him or disrupting vigils for him. If that is the state of the current left, then count me out as they have lost all humanity.

It would bother me if my friends were posting things like that too. I am in agreement that some changes need to be made to immigration. But right now, the racist rhetoric is winning.

Just no. Absolutely not, no truth in that. But this seems to be the new tactic of the far right to hide their atrocities behind lies about the left. And people blindly follow it. Hateful Nigel will be the next PM as a result, then we’re all screwed