Left wingers seem as bad as right wingers

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I’ve seen so many people this last week who see themselves as such “right on” virtuous people posting the most horrible things on social media.

One replied to a post about Charlie Kirk, it was basically a “sorry not sorry” post because he’s so hateful. When asked by someone if she’s actually seen any of his debates she said she didn’t need to, the facts are there that he was basically a fascist who incites violence. FWIW I’ve watched several of his videos since seeing her post today and seen nothing that suggests this, even though I don’t agree with his opinion on many things (but apparently he’s doing it in code, whatever that means)

Another friend was ranting about the protest in London and using really horrible terms to describe people that went. I hate what the flags have come to represent, and I don’t doubt that there were many thugs there just wanting to stir up hate. Surely though, describing all who went to the protest as the same (basically they’re all thick as shit racist hooligans) is no better than someone describing all immigrants as benefit chasing potential rapists (or insert any other racist stereotype)

Am I missing something? Or is it considered acceptable to make sweeping generalisations as long as you’re on the left side of the political spectrum?

Robinson is Islamophobic, not racist. Happy for you to prove me wrong with a direct quote regarding skin colour or something rooted in race rather than religion?

No. I haven’t. I’ve seen on you many threads.

Yes you have. You probably think I knew who CK was before he died, and I see how you post.

This is nonsense. Try it on someone else.

Here you go.

https://www.cleveland.pcc.police.uk/news/redcar-family-suffers-racist-abuse/

Tommy Robinson is a racist.

Not only is he a racist, he's a drug addled hypocrite who grifts off other racists and hating the UK.

Like a PP, I judge TR supporters. They're either racist or thick. Sometimes both.

Reform’s Nathan Gill claims to be a “patriot” in his X bio. Also claims to love his country.

This is the man who just pleaded guilty to taking Kremlin-linked bribes.

Are Reform a threat to our National Security?

The Kremlin sure love their right wing puppets parties. Isn’t it strange, how many of those on the far right amplify pro Russian rhetoric?

Do those of you in the Uk who are Reform voters look to America and think it looks a more stable and pleasant place to live under Trump? Do you hope Farage will bring that here too? Because the world to me feels far less stable under Trump.

Reform’s Nathan Gill claims to be a “patriot” in his X bio. Also claims to love his country.

This is the man who just pleaded guilty to taking Kremlin-linked bribes.

Are Reform a threat to our National Security?

The Kremlin sure love their right wing puppets parties. Isn’t it strange, how many of those on the far right amplify pro Russian rhetoric?

Do those of you in the Uk who are Reform voters look to America and think it looks a more stable and pleasant place to live under Trump? Do you hope Farage will bring that here too? Because the world to me feels far less stable under Trump.

Most people, left, right, and centre, oppose the racist Tommy, takes cocaine, lives in Spain, Robinson.

He's a low life skank.🤷‍♀️

Only clicked on this because I thought it was football

How ironic that Tommy Robinson/Yaxley tried to smear this man with these type of allegations considering how many child molesters he associates with 🤢 He is constantly framing this as a non white issue and yet the facts tell a different story.

I was surprised to learn via a recent TV documentary, that Mussolini preceded Hitler.
Or maybe I shouldn't be so open about my ignorance.

Well said!
Democracy requires you to be a good loser.
The peculiar thing is that Trump is not only a sore loser, but a sore winner. He continues to whine and gripe even after he wins.

How you don't see that opinion as completely bizarre. I think the kind of person who sees a political figure they disagree with and concludes that he must therefore be a child rapist says way more about them than they even realise themselves.

Yup. The word fascist comes from fasces, the Italian word for a bundle of sticks which Mussolini used as it symbolised strength through unity as well as calling back to Roman practices. Hitler learned a lot from Mussolini's rise to power but while there were a lot of similarities German fascism wasn't identical to Italian fascism.

If we're going to go very broad-brush, Trump is closer to a Mussolini than a Hitler.

Is it possible that they consider Trump to be a child rapist less for his political views and more for who he associated with, what he's said in his own words, and what his alleged victims have claimed?

Initially Mussolini and his original brand of fascism was not racist. He reportedly said in 1932: "Race? It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today".

However by 1938 under pressure from and seeking to gain the support of Hitler's Germany he passed the "Manifesto of Race" stating it is time that Italians proclaim themselves to be openly racist". Although he added that the Manifesto was endorsed "entirely for political reasons", in deference to Nazi Germany wishes."

I imagine it is because his name is all over the Epstein files. Is there nothing in you that finds it suspicious that Ghislaine Maxwell was moved to a minimum security prison after the Justice Dept. questioning? 🤔

Or perhaps it was because Trump boasted about entering the Miss Teen USA changing room where girls as young as 15 were in various states of undress. What sort of a man would buy a teen beauty pageant, then brag about entering their changing rooms?

It’s not just TikTok, it’s X, YouTube. Social media has provided the ultimate propaganda tool. Why is it so heavily pushing the far right? https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Grrfc5GVs/

Anti-Slavic racism was used as a motivator for some of the eastwards expansion. And the empire building in Africa came with a fair degree of racism (as it had been for much of England's earlier dealings there, of course). But you're right; Italian fascism wasn't nearly as rabidly racist as German fascism was and Mussolini was always fairly reluctant to get on board with Hitler's maniacal anti-Semitism. For Mussolini, promoting racism was a tool. For Hitler it was damn-near a religion.

Not to mention the things he said about his own daughter while she was a teenager.

Yes, or a 46 year old Trump telling the child on the escalator that he would be dating her in 10 years. Who looks at a child and thinks that 😬 🤢
www.latimes.com/nation/ct-donald-trump-girls-chicago-tribune-archive-20161013-story.html

@Alicealig

I mean, why did the FBI question Epstein (under oath) whether he had ever socialized with Donald Trump (specifically) in the presence of underage girls?

That was back in 2010, before Trump was a political figure.

Then, of course, there was the court case by Katie Johnson, who alleged Trump forcibly raped her when she was 13. The case (which was dropped, apparently out of fear) was supported by two witnesses (one who witnessed some of the abuse, one who confirmed Johnson told her about it at the time).

Then there's the creepy birthday book letter, the giving of (extraordinary) special treatment to Ghislaine Maxwell and the general cover up.

It just doesnt seem plausible that Trump is innocent.

How do you explain it all away?