Reform to scrap human rights, surely people won't vote for that

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Putting the immigration issues to one side for a moment, as I believe all parties are trying to come up with ways of addressing it.
Here’s what Reform UK’s own policy documents and recent reporting reveal about their stance on the Equality Act:
Reform UK’s Position on the Equality Act
According to Reform UK’s 2024 “Contract” (their equivalent of a manifesto):

• They intend to scrap the Equality Act 2010 entirely.
• They specifically criticize it for enforcing "positive action" and claim it has lowered standards and reduced economic productivity.
• They also vow to eliminate Diversity, Equality and Inclusion (DE&I) rules.
• Furthermore, Reform proposes to leave the European Convention on Human Rights and introduce a new British Bill of Rights.

Other legal commentary confirms the vagueness of their pledge: they want to replace the Equality Act but provide no details on what, if anything, would take its place. What This Means Reform UK’s Pledge Implications Scrap Equality Act 2010 Dismantling legal protections against discrimination based on characteristics like gender, race, disability, religion, sex, and age. End DE&I rules Remove institutional policies aimed at promoting workplace inclusivity and protecting historically marginalized groups. No official replacement proposed Creates legal uncertainty and could leave many without recourse against discrimination. What Others Are Saying On discussion forums like the National Autistic Society’s community board, Reform’s deputy leader Richard Tice has been quoted saying: “We must fire all these EDI woke jobs and scrap the 2010 Equality Act which is so damaging to growth and productivity.” Bottom Line Reform UK is explicitly planning to scrap the Equality Act. Their publicly declared platform not only advocates repealing it, but also cutting tied-in equality measures like DE&I frameworks—with no clear replacement. This represents a radical restructuring of the UK’s equalities legal framework.

Is this not a reason not to vote Reform, if you have any disabled family members, or care about equality and human rights in general, it's terrifying to me.
How is this not talked about more.

I saw that! Farage says that it is all in need of revision, is out of date.

No longer being part of the European convention of human rights will be helpful in terms of being able to deport criminals who are foreign nationals. At the moment they can claim deportation will breach their human rights under the ECHR and then we can't deport them, even if they have committed crimes here or even been previously legally deported and returned again illegally. See just 3 examples:

Ardit Binaj - Albanian burglar who was previously deported https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/10/07/deported-albanian-sneaks-back-into-uk-and-uses-echr-to-stay/

Marlon Martins Dos Santos - a Brazilian paedophile who has previously been found guilty for raping a 5 year old girl multiple times as well as further offences against children in the UK
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/rapist-and-murder-suspect-block-extradition-with-echr-claims-g2rvmk39m

Shawn Mcleod - a Jamaican drug dealer
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jamaican-drug-dealer-deportation-cannabis-b2699642.html

It's hastily written post second world war legislation that is no longer fit for purpose, if it ever really was. Unfortunately most people just hear 'human rights' and think those against ECHR are against human rights in general. Obviously, the ECHR isn't the only way to legislate around human rights and if its not working, it's not unreasonable to change it.

It would be another Brexit. I’d have thought Farage would have learnt the first time. A Reform Bill of Rights would be an absolute disaster for the vast majority of people.

I know plenty of people who would scrap the DEI initiatives and a few who think the ECHR is not fit for purpose.

That is not so rare.

We don’t have DEI in this country, it’s a US term. You let people like Farage mess with your rights at your peril.

Was there not a man who attempted to abduct and sexually assault a young girl, but was stopped by passers by, whose lawyer tried to use the ECHR to say it was against his human rights to have to go to prison?

The OP stated that this was about the Equality Act 2010 not immigration.

We don't have DEI in the UK.

People don't think its their rights that will be taken away, thats why we are doing all this 'othering' in preparation. Good old Nige would never want to destroy workers rights, tenants rights or woman's rights now would he?

I’m anticipating ”We have too many rights anyway”

Agree. But you can bet the British public will swallow what Nice Guy Nigel says hook, line and sinker . He just want Money and Power for him and his pals. I am horrified that people are even considering voting Reform.

You speak of the people of Britain with contempt. It’s your right to Hate Speech, I guess.

It’s the ‘face-eating leopards’ vote it appeals to, innit.

No idea, but unless it was used successfully to get someone out of prison because the concept of prison breaches human rights, I’m not sure it’s a relevant story.

Why are multiple people saying we dont have DEI in the UK?
My work has a DEI manager, and so do many other companies, although the name might vary slightly. Famously Isla Bumba appeared in the recent Sandy Peggie trial and her role was "Equality and Human rights lead and senior Diversity officer". Are people seriously saying this is a different function to DEI?

Don't be ridiculous - I am British . But one things for sure, if the polls are correct and the British public vote Nigel in next election, then that is a dumb move. Same as Brexit was a dumb move . Nigel should take a large portion of the blame for that disaster.

People will vote for it because they are idiots and assume that it will only remove rights from those other people, that are a bit less human than white British folk. So that’s ok. It will obviously only affect immigrants or people with brown skin.

Until they actually realised what it could mean for them or loved ones. People don't understand. Its frightening.

I saw a really nasty Twitter convo between some Reform voters who were discussing ppl who live on housing estates. Some MNers have more in common with Reform than they would like to believe

Exactly this. People won't care because they don't believe it will ever, ever, affect them. Let's hope they are right. I believe that people the US found out quite quickly that what they thought was meant for others also negatively impacted them too.

I feel quite a lot of contempt for anyone who’s going to vote away my Human Rights tbh!

I don't think anyone thinks Reform are hot on women's rights, do they?
I just don't think that women who vote for Reform think that they themselves will be affected. Maybe they don't want abortions or divorces or whatever themselves.
Like the people who said they wouldn't mind a bit of hardship from Brexit if they got their sovereignty back, I think a lot of people just want Britain to look great again even if everyone is a bit worse off.
I think it is also true that a lot of people think that "others" have too many rights.

Tbf even the ECHR are looking to change. Quite a few EU countries are pressuring for it and they’ve responded they will. It’s likely to be tested over the next few years anyway.

But they are not “scrapping human rights” they have identified laws which they deem not to be of use in the economic and social well being of the country -laws which many people on this thread elsewhere have highlighted have interfered with the country’s security and feelings of actual equality.

This has largely arisen due to people interpreting the law in such a way many people find ludicrous and against common sense. Many people have found themselves disadvantaged by the UK laws effecting the ECHR and the subsequent policies throughout society. Look at the many years of women suffering because of “transrights”. Certain groups and their lawyers have used the laws enacting the provisions of the ECHR and the threat to go to the European court of HR to create situations which have been disadvantageous for this country.

We have negative rights in this country - unless specified otherwise everyone is already equal before the law. Specific pieces of legislation can amend those rights. To either the positive or negative.

The ECHR was drafted in an entirely different society which had very different needs and pressures. It makes sense to start again and draft something fit for purpose for today’s pressures. The Left have really brought this on themselves by abusing the Human Rights legislation for ludicrous ends.

Even if all that was true (it isn’t) any redrafting of a UK rights bill should be kept as far away from Farage as humanly possible.