Reform to scrap human rights, surely people won't vote for that

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Putting the immigration issues to one side for a moment, as I believe all parties are trying to come up with ways of addressing it.
Here’s what Reform UK’s own policy documents and recent reporting reveal about their stance on the Equality Act:
Reform UK’s Position on the Equality Act
According to Reform UK’s 2024 “Contract” (their equivalent of a manifesto):

• They intend to scrap the Equality Act 2010 entirely.
• They specifically criticize it for enforcing "positive action" and claim it has lowered standards and reduced economic productivity.
• They also vow to eliminate Diversity, Equality and Inclusion (DE&I) rules.
• Furthermore, Reform proposes to leave the European Convention on Human Rights and introduce a new British Bill of Rights.

Other legal commentary confirms the vagueness of their pledge: they want to replace the Equality Act but provide no details on what, if anything, would take its place. What This Means Reform UK’s Pledge Implications Scrap Equality Act 2010 Dismantling legal protections against discrimination based on characteristics like gender, race, disability, religion, sex, and age. End DE&I rules Remove institutional policies aimed at promoting workplace inclusivity and protecting historically marginalized groups. No official replacement proposed Creates legal uncertainty and could leave many without recourse against discrimination. What Others Are Saying On discussion forums like the National Autistic Society’s community board, Reform’s deputy leader Richard Tice has been quoted saying: “We must fire all these EDI woke jobs and scrap the 2010 Equality Act which is so damaging to growth and productivity.” Bottom Line Reform UK is explicitly planning to scrap the Equality Act. Their publicly declared platform not only advocates repealing it, but also cutting tied-in equality measures like DE&I frameworks—with no clear replacement. This represents a radical restructuring of the UK’s equalities legal framework.

Is this not a reason not to vote Reform, if you have any disabled family members, or care about equality and human rights in general, it's terrifying to me.
How is this not talked about more.

And what about the disabled people that are covered by the equality act !

@ThatWaryOchreQuoter
"Nope, now let me guess: Public sector, poor attendance record and agrees with left policing of language?"
LOL couldn't be more wrong. City professional of over 20 years, grew up poor up north and educated myself out of it. Did plenty of all nighters pre-kids, now I 'just' work FT hours. Mortgage free house in London.

Don't really get what 'Left policing of language' means, but FWIW, I fully agree with JKR's response to the arrest of Glinner.

Labour might be wringing us (already started with the VAT on private schools) but if Reform were the last party on earth I'd still spoil my ballot paper.

LOL couldn't be more wrong. City professional of over 20 years, grew up poor up north and educated myself out of it. Did plenty of all nighters pre-kids, now I 'just' work FT hours. Mortgage free house in London.

Ha ha, same!

I’m whoever gets rid of Labour, the education tax and the kite flying over restricting middle class NHS and state school access are unacceptable. They have to go, it’s as simple as that.

What bullshit! Farage goes before a US congressional committee, comparing the UK's free speech environment to North Korea and citing arrests for online hate posts as evidence of a "big threat" to expression. Yet, around the same time, Reform UK bans journalists from local events in Nottinghamshire and other areas after unfavourable coverage, such as reports on party finances or candidate controversies. It’s blatant hypocrisy.
Farage also supports leaders who suppress dissent while claiming to defend universal free speech. Again total hypocrisy.
At the Reform UK in ‘24 Farage reacted angrily to a journalist questioning him about avoiding £44,000 in stamp duty on a property purchase, calling her "disgusting" and having security remove her. This while he claims to support free speech- he only supports expression when it's not directed at him or his finances.
He only wants the speech of views he aligns with. When asked about Pro Palestine supporters being arrested for holding signs, he wouldn’t condem their arrest. He’s a fraud and a liar and a Poundland Trump- a Russian asset. Fuck that and him. He lies and lies and cares NOTHING for the man (or woman) in the street. All he wants is to distract the masses so that he can profit. Just like Trump. Don’t be sucked into the propaganda

You are a City professional living in London for over 20 years? Ok.
How on earth do you cope with being surrounded by immigrants doing everything all the time? Why have you stayed so long if you are so anti-immigrants?

How on earth do you cope with being surrounded by immigrants doing everything all the time?
What do you mean by doing everything all the time? what are they doing all the time? Up to no good no doubt.

Why have you stayed so long if you are so anti-immigrants?
Non immigrants can live in London you know? Quite a revealing view. Anyway I’m not anti immigrant, I’m married to one. I am thoroughly anti mass and uncontrolled immigration.

I know the credibility is questionable.

Contempt towards those who can't see further than the end of their noses. The ones who want to ditch equality because they can't bear to see others having something that they can't have.

Christ yes, with cobs on. Incidentally, these are the people that will be the first to shout when they find themselves on the receiving end.

It’s less than 20 years

Of course they will vote for them look at the farmers voting for trump how shook they were when he turned on them within a week?

When people vote, they don’t actually read the contract/manifesto. They just believe what the media tell them. It’s very scary.

And in your less than 20 years in the City, why haven’t you gone elsewhere given the millions of migrants doing everything here. Not a day goes by when I don’t engage with or rub shoulders with a migrant. Usually several.

What do you do in the City, exactly?

What do you mean ‘millions of migrants doing everything here’? It’s a weird phrase.

I don’t t know why you think people should leave the UKs capital because they are not an immigrant? Does that strike you as quite an odd view, one that will undoubtedly cause conflict ?

You are quite clear that you disagree with immigration. London is full of immigrants doing all kinds of helpful jobs and largely getting on. You are living in a place which would be radically, radically different under Reform/your plans. How does that work? Does being surrounded by the immigrants you want to do away with not get a bit irritating for you? Do you notice it? What do you feel about it?

And what do you do in the City, pretty please?

What do you mean ‘immigrants you want to do away with’? I want to end mass immigration into the U.K. and I’m voting to do so. Do you think msss immigration is a good thing? I do find it irritating that areas of London have been ethnically ghettoised through reckless immigration yes, do you not?

Im not going give you any personal information as I’m getting a weird vibe from you.

The pigeon would walk it

@ThatWaryOchreQuoter

LOL at ‘weird vibe’! I’m asking because I suspect you of not being honest about your career. Your comments do not appear to have the writing style, consistency of point or intellectual rigour that I would expect from professionals I’ve worked with in the City for the past 20+ decades. Feel free to give zero personal information, just a little more indication of intellectual capacity. (This is not a ‘right wingers are thick’ comment. Farage is ex City. Tice does a half decent job of appearing bright.)

I love London, I think immigration is great and is beneficial. I don’t see anywhere as ‘ghettoised’ and only see that description from people who don’t live here and read and repeat Tommy Robinson type guff on the internet. I’m happy to live in a place with many different languages and cultures side by side. Far rather this than living amongst the anti-immigrants hanging flags off lampposts and painting roundabouts.

Don’t we? What makes you think that? We do at the organisation I work in (there’s an Inclusion session this week too). And this is just the first few samples I found

why would you doubt someone works in the City because they don’t support mass immigration and ask for clarification on sentences like ‘immigrants doing everything all of the time’.
Mass immigration, particularly from the poor third world, has been a disaster. I’m going to vote so that it’s stopped.
As for ‘intellectual capacity’ to work in the City, you’ve clearly never worked much in the sell side. Plenty of us thick northeners knocking about

See this is why I'm doubting you. If you read what I said, I referred to your style of writing and the inconsistencies in the way you make a point - not the point itself. You seem to have not understood that.

I haven’t really understood it, you’re correct. Your point seems to be that it’s doubtful I work in the City because of ‘immigrants doing everything all of the time’ and my style of writing. It’s a good point and well made, I just don’t have the intellectual capacity to understand it unfortunately. Never mind.

And if you read the titles we go Equality, Diversity and Inclusion or EDI
Blossomtoes meant we don’t use the US term DEI not that we don’t have equality, diversity and inclusion. And even at your company they use EDI, rather than the US way round.
I’m not sure why the order differs but I am sure all three are important.

The first people to suffer from the removal of fundamental rights will be the people that vote for it. Fucking idiots.

That’s just semantics in that case. And no, EDI is not the term used in my organisation (nor is DEI). Means the same thing though

We need Farage to be PM so he can implement all these things. The ECHR is holding us back from being able to deport the illegal immigrants.