Women of MN - What do you like about Trump?

[ShinyTime]

He couldn’t have been voted in without the support of women. As a non-Trump fan myself, I’m wondering what is it you like about him? This applies to non-US voters who favour him and would vote for him if possible.

Of course - this is simply a way to control women's freedom. Do not have sex before marriage, and once married, do not do anything else other than produce babies.

I agree with you. I’m just explaining that saying something should be legal because ‘people will do it anyway’ isn’t necessarily a reason.

No idea what you're trying to say there. I have supposedly felt what? What is an example of how people feel, what are the feelings and what are they about? Please try to be clearer.

It was reported? Not by me, as I said.
What you don't understand is that it is not a violation to say that a point somebody is making is stupid or laughable. It is, however, a violation to insult somebody as a person. Just confine your ire to the points being made rather than the people themselves.

Indeed. It's about punishing women for having sex for our own pleasure rather than to please a husband and produce offspring.

No I don’t, sounds the same to me. Insults are insults.

I’m really interested in why people voted for Trump and I really appreciate those answering honestly for sticking their head above the parapet to give a full response as there are a gazillion threads slagging him off and I SO want to know what the reasoning is. And I also appreciate the reasoned arguments in response that aren’t just variations on a theme of a sneering “Wow”.

Why people voted for Kamala would also be interesting but Trump is so polarising, that a lot of people will have voted for her as “Not Trump” so I want to know the policies and things that he has said and done that are viewed as positive or essential. It is really worth finding out - not just screaming the reasons down. It’s how people think - just because it’s different, doesn’t meant they don’t get to vote. Their votes count. How can the Democrats learn?

Then I guess you'll just have to live with being reported if you go on calling people names. I don't know what else to tell you. 🤷

Well it was directed to you, so purpose served anyway.

That he's old and very unhealthy, so might die soon.

Terrible that I’m hoping we’ll be rid of him one day. I do wonder who would replace him though… he’s set the precedent for anyone with a devious enough mind.

Racism.

Rampant xenophobia.

Internalised misogyny.

Hating and fearing transgender people.

Greed

@InterestQ

"I’m really interested in why people voted for Trump and I really appreciate those answering honestly for sticking their head above the parapet to give a full response as there are a gazillion threads slagging him off and I SO want to know what the reasoning is."

Jonathan Pie explains it fairly well:

Forgot: a very pretty EU wife

Despite the following?

More black men are given the death sentence than white men for similar crimes.
Some 4% of those on death row are estimated to be innocent.
There are clear historical cases of innocent men being executed due to faulty or corrupt police investigations with the national Registry of Exonerations identifying more than 1,000 people who have been exonerated for murder in the United States since 1989.

There are more cases where there are defendants who committed the crime charged but with significant mitigating or extenuating circumstances. There are defendants who committed the crime, but they had never done anything like this before; they lost control in a trying situation. Men and women with severe learning disabilities have been executed. Bad cops, bad lawyers, bad prosecutors all contribute to the problem.

Plus, decades of studies on death-qualified juries; race, gender, and immigration-status bias among jurors; law enforcement and prosecutorial misconduct; weak forensic science and poor representation at trial all suggest that a fair capital sentence is virtually impossible.

Not to mention that executing people does nothing as a deterrent. It’s plain old biblical eye for an eye. Including those who are innocent.

None of that bothers you?

@1dayatatime

that was epic. Thank you!

@DrBlackbird

It doesn't bother them.

This is the party that wants to ban any mention of structural racism from public discourse.

They don't care about the human rights of felons, except their 'Felon in Chief' Trump.

Sad but true @izimbra

It's quite clear why Trump won but it is deeply worrying that those on the left still can't see it in order to change.

Past statistics don’t sway me, which all took place in the days before widespread camera phones and security cam footage. It’s a different world now.

Sadly we have plenty of people commit murder blatantly on camera, or in broad daylight. Absolutely no question that they pulled the trigger or knifed someone.

I used to be anti death penalty until I heard the case where a woman shot a Denny’s waiter in the face for getting her order wrong.

What is served by jailing the kind of person who shoots a waiter for getting her order wrong? And then there are so many like this, just senselessly kill in public, in front of other people!

So if we just apply death penalty for those who commit crimes with security cam footage and witnesses? That’s still a lot of killers that can safely be put away tbh.

I don’t think it will be any sort of deterrence, because the people who commit crimes like this can’t even fucking think ten minutes ahead, much less understand consequences. They get angry and want to hurt you. Such people do not belong in society.

Look back through history.

Fascist and far right regimes have always been a response to rapid social change and a feeling of dislocation.

What's really worrying is that you can't see the fact that Trump's GOP is a far right party.

"I believe it should also apply to other forms of anti-social behaviour that risk the lives of other people, like attempted murder, rape, serious assaults, violent robberies."

There were 1.2 million violent crimes in the USA last year.

You want mass killings by the state?

What do you suggest - gassing?

BTW - America's incredibly punitive penal system is highly ineffectual at deterring crime or protecting people from violence.

Never the less - violent crime has fallen significantly from a peak in the late 1990's.

You wouldn't know this from listening to Trump, but then that's what fascist leaders do. Ignore the evidence and talk ceaselessly about violent crime - preferably using this to stir up fear and hatred of a minority group.

I'm not American so didn't vote but i like Trump. I think he's really funny. I think he's brave. He says what he thinks. I believe he did a good job last time.
I think he's a strong person to still be standing with the relentless slander and abuse thrown at him. He seems unfazed so he's either very resilient or just good at not showing his stress. I think he's a good leader and loves his country.
Doesn't mean I agree with everything he says but I don't trust the other politicians.

@Deja321 do you think it is funny how he treats women?