Trump vs Clinton. Biggest debate in world history 2am tomorrow. Will you be there?

[claig]

The entire world's movers and shakers, swindlers and fakers, public money piss-takers will be watching in trepidation at what Trump will do to them. The entire world's great and the good, high and the mighty, shifty and flighty will be supporting Hillary. Will you be with the people supporting Trump?

Have you got the ice cream, the chocolate, the biscuits and the matchsticks to keep the eyelids open ready?

As a warm-up, here is Sky News's 30 minute documentary shown last night

"Trump. Could it really happen?"

Yes, but I underestimated the importance. I thought UKIP would get 10 seats at least, but they didn't due to FPTP

But you knew about FPTP when you made all those super-confident predictions showing the same degree of hyperbole as you are using now. Your willingness to believe that a man who announces that a sex offender is a great guy is not an offensive piece of scum demonstrates that your powers of judgment haven't improved.

how big is your business compared to Trump's? Trump is not an angel, he bullshits and lies, but is not responsible for the crimes of some of the political class.

Which one? One of the ones that went bankrupt?

Capitalism has successes and failures. There is no shame in failure.

There is, you know, when your failure is down to your repeated incompetence and it causes poverty and misery amongst innocent people. And when you're running for President when failure is a bit of a no-no.

If Trump brings out "the real Trump" at the next debate, he will deliver himself into Clinton's hands.

Let's hope Trump does hit harder in the next debate because it will show he's losing any grip he has (only a very small one much like the micro penis he's the proud owner of, as illustrated in the nude portrait of him! I won't link to the picture, last time I did it reduced some posters to repeated bilious attacks. Understandably).

One single fact Any woman who votes for Trump needs their head sorted. His views on women alone should be enough to discount this nasty apology for a man. I support Rosie O'Donnell's view of him. After the debate she tweeted "he is an orange an*s". Sums it all up. .... "“He annoys me on a multitude of levels,” she said. “He’s the moral authority! Left the first wife, had an affair, left the second wife, had an affair, had kids both times but he’s the moral compass for 20-year-olds in America?”

Yes, Trump lost the debate. here

Claig, you are sounding rather demented on this thread, and then I hear you give baking tips?! what's the world coming to...

Here are the two most famous women who support Trump in the world and this is their take on the debate. They are the legendary Diamond and Silk (known worldwide and loved by Trump fans all over the planet as the "Stump for Trump Sisters"). They are smarter than Trump and Team Trump should put them up against Hillary in the next debate instead of Trump. It would be no contest

Good god... I've seen those Trump sisters. If that's the best you can offer Claig, I think we might be safe.

It was noteworthy that Clinton pointed out that Trump had been looking forward for a house price crash and he interrupted her (!) to say it was just business. To which she replied that he was happy to profit from people going homeless.
He had at least the good sense to keep silent, then.
This is the person claig and so many Americans seem to want for President? Where is the concern for the people?

'Where is the concern for the people?'

It is the working class who are voting for Trump, many former non-voters and give up hopers. It is the ordinary people not the elites and Wall Street who are all backing Hillary.

Voyage, that was only because Trump was gagged by his useless advisers. As the "Stump for Trump Sisters" so rightly said "see you for Round 2 on Oct 9" when we hope the advisers have been reined in and let us have "the real Trump" back. Don't miss it!

I would like the real Trump back

Let him dig his own grave

A scripted rant yes I am sure that will sway so many voters

'Where is the concern for the people?'

It is the working class who are voting for Trump, many former non-voters and give up hopers. It is the ordinary people not the elites and Wall Street who are all backing Hillary.

You didn't answer the question. They may be voting, but for man that in his life has shown no concern for the welfare of the working or middle classes. In fact, he's been taking advantage of them, including during this campaign by selling stuff made abroad to make a profit from his supporters.

Again, where is his concern for the people? Can you answer that?

Someone said my title for this thread "Biggest debate in world history" was, I quote, "a bollox title". I agree, it was "bollox" compared to Round 2 on Oct 9, which will now be the "biggest debate in world history" as Trump fans worldwide will be glued to their seats, popcorn in hand, cheering on the people's champion versus paragon of the Establishment, champion of the elites, saviour of the metropolitan elites worldwide who will all be tuned in, Dom Perignon in hand, hoping against hope that "the real Trump" won't return.

Don't miss it! The "Strump for Trump Sisters" won't and nor will I. If you've got any wits about you, nor will you.

See you on Oct 9!

'Again, where is his concern for the people? Can you answer that?'

He is the scourge of the Establishment, they know what is coming for them, they know what Trump intends to do to them, that is why the people back Trump and that is why metropolitan elites worldwide are shivering wrecks at the prospect of Trump Presidency.

Trump is scrapping their free trade deals, bringing jobs back to America, putting taxes and tariffs on them if they think they can move abroad and then sell back into the United States. Trump has put Davos on notice "it is the end of your game", all the metropolitan elites know that nothing will ever be the same.

TBH, it's not just elites who are shivering wrecks at that prospect.

Leader of the free world
Massive economy
Massive influence
In charge of the world's most powerful army
An unstable world with lots of complex geopolitics

Trump in charge doesn't really fill me with confidence

'Again, where is his concern for the people? Can you answer that?'

He is the scourge of the Establishment

Yet again, could you actually answer the question?
What has he done in his life for the people?
How has he contributed, even during this campaign for jobs in the US, for example?
He's manufacturing his campaign stuff abroad, FGS.
Can you tell us what he has done in his life to support people and fight the establishment?

He's manufacturing his campaign stuff abroad, FGS

Is that because 'he is smart' - just as he is smart to avoid paying federal taxes?

Why support US businesses when it's cheaper to import?

It's just business. Fuck the people.

Except... that's the Establishment, isn't it?

'What has he done in his life for the people? '

He has created tens of thousands of jobs.

'How has he contributed, even during this campaign for jobs in the US, for example? '

He has employed hundreds of people to run his campaign.

'He's manufacturing his campaign stuff abroad, FGS. '

So are Apple. But he is maufacturing his Trump gear in the United States.

'Can you tell us what he has done in his life to support people and fight the establishment?'

He has created jobs, organised charity to save people from being evicted from their homes and he has put the fear of God into the Establishment to such an extent that they have turned to religion and are now frequently seen on their knees praying for salvation.

Oh, claig. The jobs he lost when he got bankrupted several times? The people he scammed with his "University"? His foundation where he hardly puts any of his money and charges charities for use of his facilities? The one time he helped a woman with her mortgage and actually got most of the funds from other people? The jobs in his campaign that he doesn't pay for?
Is that what you mean?
And his supposed made in America campaign items: www.factcheck.org/2016/05/trumps-made-in-the-u-s-a-spin/

BTW,Apple aren't running for the Presidency claiming to be anti-establishment.

'and is embarking on a campaign of failure with the sole purpose of putting his friend HC into power'

Yes, that is possible. Trump fans were disappointed by the first debate where The Donald should have put Hillary away instead of letting her off the hook.

A couple of worrying giveaways were when he used his usual joke of he is building a hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue so he will get there one way or the other. It is OK in rallies but not at the debate where Trump fans are expecting him to seriously win and defeat the Establishment.

The other giveaway was after the debate when he told Trump fans at a rally that he felt the debate was "big league". Of course it is "big league", the thread title rightly said that it was "the biggest debate in world history". Everyone knows it is "big league" and were expecting him to put the Establishment away in it and he let them off because he "didnt want to hurt their feelings".

WTAF.

This is serious, There are Trump fans on the edge of their seats. They have bought "The Deplorables 2016" shirts and they wear the proudly and everyone is wearing a cap, millions have their hopes on this and the metropolitan elite across the world are in meltdown and have never been so panicked.

Of course it is "big league", let's hope that the Establishment haven't been winding all of us up and Hillary's greeting of "Hello Donald, how are you?" before the debate was not an Establishment secret signal to just play a game on the people.

Tune in for Oct 9, Round 2. The "Stump for Trump Sisters" will probably be tweeting live and anyone in their right mind should be following them. If "the real Trump" does not turn up, then the Establishment may have conned the lot of us. C'est la vie, whatever will be will be.

Long live the people!

I wonder how many favours he's due to pay the establishment after being bailed out of 6 bankruptcies.

Did I hear "less taxes" in his programme? Well...
And something about profiting from foreign country interventions invasions?

He's already pandering to the anti-abortion and the gun lobbies, despite his previous stances.

It sounds like collection time from the establishment.

Poor Trump fans expecting him to defeat the Establishment. He won't even attempt to fight it. Not unless he embarks on a Fight Club style spree.

'I wonder how many favours he's due to pay the establishment after being bailed out of 6 bankruptcies. '

Absolutely. This is the worry. It is something that Trump fans don't like to think about in case it brings bad luck, but it is always there in the background. We will get an inkling if it is for real on Oct 9, Round 2 and then on Nov 8.

The people can only keep their fingers crossed and rousingly sing the song from Les Miserables.