aibu to wonder why someone who worked as PR for ITV can now run the country?

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?? explain!

Wasn't Brown interviewed about his children on prime time TV by Piers Morgan?

Totally agree, POFAKKEDD, about the use of children. Whatever anyone thinks about Brown personally, his refusal to play the media game is utterly to his credit.

He was interviewed by Piers Morgan. Was he supposed to refuse to talk about his kids? He didn't drag them out in front of the cameras like Cameron does. There hadn't been a single picture of them in the press till he left Downing St.

"Why should they give a damn about state schools when they don't send their children to them? That totally sums up the Tory party "

Tell me a front-bench Labour MP who sends their children to their local secondary school and we can talk. Ruth Kelly was the education secretary when she went private, for God's sake. Dianne "as a black woman I understand" sent her son to Westminster. Blair sent his children to a quasi-private school the other side of London. Labour politicians are lying cunts over education: as Tony Benn was dismantling grammar schools, he sent Hilary to Westminster. Ed Ball's father was a campaigner against grammar schools who sent Ed to...oh, look, a private school in Nottingham. The difference between Labour and Tory is that neither uses state education, but Tories don't bother lying about it.

Brown was a good actor. He smiled his grin and firmly shook Mrs. Duffy's hand and told her "you are a good woman". Minutes afterwards, as he stepped into his chauffeur driven car, he spoke about that "bigoted woman".

"He was interviewed by Piers Morgan. Was he supposed to refuse to talk about his kids? "

He could have deemed the topic off-limits, stood up and walked out. But then, the main characteristic of Brown was his cowardice, so he wouldn't have the bottle to do that.

The way that you talk about Brown shows that he was nervous in the media spotlight, which he was. that, to me, shows more evidence of integrity that someone so smooth and polished and obessed with superficial image like Cameron.

Do you think that the interview with Piers wasn't rehearsed? Do you think it wasn't staged?

I think you're assessment of Brown is wrong. I do not agree with much of what his government did, but I think he resigned power and left office with dignity.

cinnamon- did you also hear the idiot who said something to the effect of "ah well, public sector- it's their turn to feel the pain, they deserve to lose their jobs, and it won't affect us"?
Of course, when the roads aren't repaired, refuse isn't collected, and they have to take in their elderly parents because there's no more care homes they might be a little more aggrieved.

FFS- 'YOUR' NOT YOU'RE, SORRY CLAIG.

Prove that cowardice was Brown's main characteristic? You cannot actually just say things like that without backing it up.

aRGH- now caps lock

stops trying to mn whilst 'supervising' craft activities

"The way that you talk about Brown shows that he was nervous in the media spotlight, which he was."

He's a man who become Prime Minister without ever fighting an election that had credible alternative candidates. His record on contested elections is "played one, lost one". A summary of the man. He spent ten years attempting to sabotage and undermine an effective politician, Blair, because he was too much of a coward to stand against him in a leadership election. So convinced was he that he would make a good PM he didn't see any need to actually become a good PM: his brilliance would be obvious to all.

Labour MPs gave us a generation of Tory mis-rule, because although they all knew that Brown was a disaster in the making, they kept quiet and allowed ghte coronation to happen.

'You're right, but it's not about we, the people, want. We don't have a say.'

Yes we do; that's why I joined a party after the election, to make sure I get a say. When none of the above for PM is what you really think (but would never waste a vote) it's time to get active.

Yes Cameron is a better actor than Brown. But that does not necessarily mean he has less integrity. Roger Moore is a better actor than Hazel Blears.

Of course Brown's interviews were rehearsed. He had people around him prepping him for the media like every other politician. The point is that it didn't come naturally to him.

"Prove that cowardice was Brown's main characteristic? "

He didn't dare fight an election until it was forced on him. He didn't dare say "I think you are a bigot" to a woman's face. He didn't dare challenge Blair for the leadership. He didn't dare get rid of Damien McBride. He thought that circulating rumours about George Osbourne's wife's mental health was a jolly jape. Coward and bully.

Anyway, the only pleasure is that a self-obsessed man who believed himself to be a genius will go down as Labour's least successful prime minister. Ha. Ha.

You. Have. To. Prove. Integrity.

"You. Have. To. Prove. Integrity."

Indeed you do. But it's easy to prove you don't have it. Brown's near-homoerotic relationship with bullies like McBride shows he didn't have any.

If Cameron had been faced with that bigoted woman he wouldn't have said she was a bigot at all. He'd have probably agreed with her. Brown didnt call an election until the last possible moment because he wanted to influence the country as positively as possible, he was not responsible for a global financial meltdown and he was trying to get things back on track. Yes he should not have deregulated the banks. if you think Cameron would have done it differently you are bonkers.

You cannot possibly say those rumours came from GB himself, or that he approved of them.

Ahh David Cameron. A man whose first job was working for his godfather, whose interview for his second at the Conservative Resarch Dpeartment was preceeded by an anonomyous call from Buckingham Palace, ans whose job at Carlton TV was found for him by his Mother in Law. A man whose involvement in the Jennifer's ear incident is legendary.

Such a trustworthy character and one who has demonstrated time and time again that he knows how easy hard it is to get a job if you have the right connections just try hard enough.

Tokyo, where on earth do you get your information? 'Brown's near-homoerotic relationship with bullies like McBride' - what an utterly bizarre thing to say.
Brown had integrity. He proved that in budget after budget where he shifted small but significant amounts of money towards those who needed it. New Labour's record was far from perfect but they were the only govt who ever put the interests of mothers first, with Sure Start centres, improved maternity leave and legislation on flexible working, not to mention the minimum wage, which had a big impact on women. That is what the government is for - to improve the lot of ordinary working people. Cameron's contribution? To shift the burden of the recession on to ordinary working people and to put many of them out of work.

CaptainNancy, yes I did hear that. That's one of the worst things about what this govt is doing - it's all divide and rule again. But as you say, people who don't give a damn about the public sector will be forced to rethink when their services are affected.

Yay, Slug! Thanks for reminding us of Cameron's stellar employment record

'Brown had integrity. He proved that in budget after budget where he shifted small but significant amounts of money towards those who needed it.'

Did the bankers really need it?

Yes quite, and Samantha Cameron was hired by her mother into Smythson's, of which she is now creative director. Ah, nepotism. The cornerstone of the Tories' way of life.