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aibu to wonder why someone who worked as PR for ITV can now run the country?

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southeastastralbeing · 20/10/2010 22:18

?? explain!

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claig · 21/10/2010 10:19

Of course Brown did some good things. Cameron will also do some good things. It's really about who does the worst things?

POFAKKEDDthechair · 21/10/2010 10:24

You'll see Claig, who has done the worst things, give it a year or two.

Do you really think Cameron would not have helped out the banks?

claig · 21/10/2010 10:31

Yes I think they are pretty much the same. But I think that the Tories are that bit better, and I think that they will eventually sort this mess out and then the public will reelect them, even though they will have had to bear the unpopularity of doing cuts because Labour left them with the message "sorry, there's no money left".

Teaandcakeplease · 21/10/2010 10:32

Going back to the original OP I think they voted DC to lead the party as they thought he may have a chance of winning the election. But I think David Davis would have made a better PM personally.

POFAKKEDDthechair · 21/10/2010 10:33

I don't see how the Tories can be a bit better when their single aim is to protect themselves and their friends and always has been. Let's just see.

ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 10:37

David davis is the MP for very close to me.

He has a very poor lcoal rep and provision for the vulnerable in his ward is notorious. I know a lot of people with disabled kids ther who have had to pay £££££ to challenge clearly crap decisions byu the LA- such as refusing to drop a disabled child at a CM's house instead of his home when both aprents working etc.

Er- no ta.

Teaandcakeplease · 21/10/2010 10:51

Oh Shock I only knew him whilst in the shadow cabinet from what I saw in the media and read about him but that's scrapped that idea then Gideons mum Blush

ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 11:13

Well you know he might be a nice bloke

Michael gove is by alla ccounts too.

But either he can't manage to get his country provision sorted or he dosn;t want to (our AM spends a lot of time on helping Sn famillies etc with their LA cases).

OTOH our MP is labour and he's a waste of space too.

POFAKKEDDthechair · 21/10/2010 11:17

"The country needs a decisive plan, we've set out the decisive plan... It has some caution built into it, there is of course the freedom for the Bank to deploy monetary policy tools as well," Osborne told BBC Radio 4.

so interest rates are set to rise then. Cue loads of people losing their homes. Such a great future.

poxoxo · 21/10/2010 12:08

why would interest rates rise, if the Government is seeking to stimulate the economy through monetary policy it is likely to keep interest rates low and do some more quantitative easing

Teaandcakeplease · 21/10/2010 12:21

What I felt was better about him was the fact he grew up on a council estate and didn't come from a wealthy background like DC. He seemed to be a man of integrity on what I'd seen and read as well, a man of principals but knew what it was like for those of us not as well off. It seems I was mistaken though and the picture I'd been given from watching and reading was incorrect Confused

The Tory's cannot make the Bank of England change interest rates, it's not their decision surely but Merv and his cronies? Hmm

islandhopper · 21/10/2010 12:33

Cameron read PPE at Oxford, so presumably is bright and knows a thing or two about politics and economics. He also had a severely disabled son, so presumably knows a bit about the NHS and disabilities. He also worked in PR for ITV, so knows about the real business world more than many career politicians who only know life at Westminster. He also has a high-flying career wife, so knows about feminism, two-career couples and childcare issues.

He also is trying to sort out this country's disastrous finances, even if it means people dislike him for it, rather than just giving money out willy-nilly to all and sundry, with little accountability, as the last Government did. How on earth TB/GB could spend 13 years over-spending in a boom baffles me. It's basic economics - save in the good times, so you have reserves for the bad times.

(BTW, I am not a member of the Tory party, and haven't always voted for them - however, I do feel DC and NC are the best men for the current job. I also feel, while the cuts are very painful to many of us, unfortunately they are needed due to the financial ineptitude of the last Govt.)

merrymouse · 21/10/2010 13:22

I have no idea what David Cameron's home life is like.

However, most people aren't dealt cards in life that would enable them to care for a severely disabled child and maintain two 'high-flying' careers.

I am not criticising their life style at all, just pointing out that they have had opportunities that wouldn't be available to the majority of people.

The Camerons aren't good examples of the financial impact of disability on a family.

merrymouse · 21/10/2010 13:27

"Maybe MPs should be obliged to do voluntary work with people on the margins of society for a year"

Like Prince William!

Maybe we should get the royals back in! Also, Prince Charles seems to have done some kind of deal with Waitrose, and who doesn't love John Lewis?

ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 13:32

'so presumably knows a bit about the NHS and disabilities

perhaps he can give me some tips on how to face homelessness with two disabled kids then?

Coz he has all that wide ranging experience then.

huddspur · 21/10/2010 13:37

I'm not a Tory voter but Cameron has a degree from Oxford and comes across as a very intelligent man so I think he is perfectly capable of being PM.

cinnamontoast · 21/10/2010 14:04

If he hadn't been to Eton would he still have a degree from Oxford? Oxbridge is virtually a finishing school for Etonians.

I'm intelligent, I've got a degree! Can I be PM, please?

tokyonambu · 21/10/2010 14:09

"Yes quite, and Samantha Cameron was hired by her mother into Smythson's, of which she is now creative director. Ah, nepotism. The cornerstone of the Tories' way of life."

I know. It's terrible. I'll just go and ask Hilary Benn about how terrible it is when people get preference because of their parents' influence, or whether it was his grandfather that helped. And then I'll nip over and ask Gwyneth Dunwoody what tips her father was able to give her, what with him being the General Secretary of the Labour Party and all, and how many of those she gave to her daughter Tamsin when she was standing for the Welsh Assembly. I wonder how she got selected? Isn't is extraordinary that Peter Mandelson was able to get to the position of influence he held, with the only advantage being a grandfather who was Home Secretary.

Oh, and then I'll see how many 22 year olds called Georgina, straight out of Oxford, get shortlisted for safe Labour seats when their fathers aren't close advisors to Tony Blair.

tokyonambu · 21/10/2010 14:12

"You cannot possibly say those rumours came from GB himself, or that he approved of them."

What else was McBride paid for? His boyish good looks? Brown had several warnings over McBride, but continued to employ him. If you own a pitbull, it's your responsibility to stop it biting passers by, something Brown was unwilling to do. Had Brown and Balls worried about the economy more and briefing against Blair less (ie, done their jobs, rather than trying to undo their boss) the world would be a significantly better place.

ImGideonsMumAndIHateHimToo · 21/10/2010 18:42

you see tokyo, a whole list of people only emans that more people are a bit- cogy- not bthat it is OK for any of them.

tokyonambu · 21/10/2010 19:16

It also means it's hardly a characteristic of Tories when Labour do it just as much.

saltdog · 21/10/2010 19:19

I think Cameron is more than equipped to be Prime Minister. He is Oxbridge educated and clearly has a desire to be in public service. You may not agree with him but you can't deny that he wants to improve the country

BelleDameAvecBroomstick · 21/10/2010 19:30

saltdog I think you missed a bit off the end of your post. I'm sure he wants to "improve the country for people like him."

saltdog · 21/10/2010 19:34

No I genuinely think that all politicians go into politics to improve the country for everyone and I really don't accept it when people claim politicians are all self serving

BelleDameAvecBroomstick · 21/10/2010 19:37

I wish I felt the same way. I think some politicians go into it to serve the public and some are self serving.

I think DC and his cabinet lack compassion, however, and that I cannot forgive (as if they'd care).

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