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Unborn Spirit children

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Papillon · 13/10/2005 16:30

Here are some links about them:

cosmic cradle
Pre-birth communication and here
Spirit babies

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fransmom · 09/06/2007 21:15

now i think about it, it seemed that way to me when dd was born i remember saying to her that i had waited a very long time to meet her and she was just looking at me - very calm, no crying - well, at least not til i was in surgery (ouch emoticon) and she decided she was hungry

i also have weird birthmarks - at the top of my ears where it curves back round to go inside the ear (if that makes sense) it looks like i have had my ears pierced - but i haven't.
where the 3rd one is under the "H"

kamikayzed · 09/06/2007 21:22

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fransmom · 09/06/2007 21:25

maybe that's all they needed to know?

yes it is. i've had loads of people ask if i had my ears pierced there as they are alittle bit noticeable when i have hair up

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fransmom · 09/06/2007 21:27

not all the tiem obv . tho my ahir colour bit obv too

MARGOsBeenPlayingWithMyNooNoo · 09/06/2007 21:29

Wonderful thread - very touching

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fransmom · 09/06/2007 21:39

hey? how do you know if i wear specs?!

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fransmom · 09/06/2007 21:49

oh gosh no was only joking bu tnow you mention it, i should wera reading specs - esp with the amount of time i spend on mn...........

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kittylette · 09/06/2007 21:52

fransmom what are we looking at thats odd on the pic - i dont get it

fransmom · 09/06/2007 22:00

we were talking about birthmarks and possibility of them being related to experiences in previous life/lives. the pic i posted was saying where i had a n odd birthamrk - like my ears had both been pierced. where h is marked on the pic, there is a third (small) hoop and it's roughly in that place on both sides

melsy · 10/06/2007 10:12

is that the line that follows into near the ear , faintly red fransmom? I can see an arm of glasses in the pic ! U not wanna speak with me , I mentioned catting u earlier.

fransmom · 10/06/2007 22:09

sorry haven't replied have been rather lax of late with replying to emails sorry i upset you nelsy

Surfermum · 10/06/2007 22:19

Aw, thanks for asking about the reading Fransmom. It was cool! But I'm wondering why I paid for a reading to tell me stuff that I already knew!! I really must learn to trust my own instincts. It confirmed lots of things I've been saying about my abilities. It said I'm going to be learning and developing via a group of people and I'm a great healer. So ... next stop a reiki course.

It said I've got an opportunity coming up on the career front, that I've been treading water for a while and now it's time to take up my career again (deffo been doing that - by choice - since dd was born, and she's now off to school). She predicted a property move in 2008 and a property abroad in the next 5 years. I find that hard to believe as if I bought a holiday home it would be in Cornwall. Ooh, just thought, maybe it isn't a holiday home ..... ooooh.

Sorry, I'm going on here. It's just it's great to chat to someone who's interested.

melsy · 10/06/2007 22:28

aww u didnt upset me fransmom, im just frayed with nerves of late (dd2 been very ill), and its brought on paranoia.

sounds good surfermum, reiki, is that what youve been feeling to do ? I wanting to learn about all kinds of healing.

Id like a reading in person with someone. Ive had an impromptu one in a chat room , but would like to have some contact iykwim.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 11/06/2007 13:00

Those marks on ears are called Pre auricular pits I believe. DS2 has them. The medical reason for them is that when the ears were forming in the womb, the "pits" are where the ear didn't come together quite acurately. They are usually symmetrical. And usually don't affect hearing in any way at all although this depends how deep the pit is. Most of them are just "surface" ones. DS's are. Sorry if that's boring!

Re what has been said about newborns; DS2 is quite severely disabled. He was also unplanned. I am not going to pretend that being parents to him is not very very hard work and stressful (especially lately; one of the reasons I am under so much stess at the moment as his behavioural difficulties are getting harder to handle, more so than his physical needs) but I have always felt that we have him for a reason; he is supposed to be with us. I know that.

He has always been very hyperactive (ADHD was added to list of diagnoses last year) and doesn't sleep well and when he is asleep, that's the only time he is still and not "all over the place", both physically (he can't "do" still) and attention wise. He didn't have any speech for a long time. I have always felt (even before I began learning about all things spiritual, despite all his problems, he was actually "older and wiser" than me in some way. Even in special care, when he was completely oxygen dependant, still quite poorly and attached to various tubes and wires, his eyes used to follow me (just me) wisely around the room when I was in sight of him. He also smiled at the normal age although for months could do none of things he was "supposed to do". But when he was a baby and I could still hold him without him scrambling out of my arms in the hyper fashion he does now, I used to look into his eyes and feel calm and reassured as if HE knew everything was supposed to be this way. We were so stressed about what was wrong with him (no full proper diagnosis, still haven't) but HE was the most loving and socialable child even though he couldn't anything other babies/toddlers could do. We spent a lot of time trying to convince specialists that he understood much of what what said to him (in a somewhat "normal for his age" fashion) but they clearly thought we were kidding ourselves. These days at school, those that work with him daily know there is a "clever boy" inside somewhere, but he's mostly trapped by his physical problems and some kind of processing difficulities.

When he was about 3 and I was putting him to bed I lay down with him and said "thank you for choosing me to be your Mum "DS" " and he stopped scrambling around (could crawl by then) and lay down and looked straight up at me for the longest time. He just held my gaze forever, it was so strange. And made me feel so emotional. Then he hugged me. Although he's always been a "huggy" child, he is never calm or controlled and he never looks in the same place for more than a few seconds.. far too hyper.. but these moments where very calm and seemed so deliberate.

Typing all this has helped remind me of the child (or more to the point the soul!)inside the child who is causing us so many problems at the moment. I think he is very frustrated by his lack of control over things and so controls us the only way he can by doing "bad" things. He is so hard to handle these days. He talks a lot although it's indistinct if you don't know him. He has severe learning difficulties and often talks quite randomly but communication is so much better than I'd ever hoped. And strangely in the last few months as his speech has develped more, I have noticed that he often says something I was thinking.. it's almost daily.. probably more often than I realise but I don't always notice I suspect. Eg in the car the other day I thought (did not say!) to myself "I need to go and get bread.." and DS, from the back of car announced "Bread!"

I've no idea what all this means but I know DS is here to teach me something and DH. DH who is not prone to saying poetic things (and suffers along with me with much of DS' hard to handle behaviour) once said that he feels as if he was BORN to be DS's dad. Even though between us we have four other children who we love just as much.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 11/06/2007 13:00

(sorry for the mammoth post!)

fransmom · 13/06/2007 21:02

maybe instead of seeing his health as "problems" you could see them as "challenges"?

it would seem as though your son is telepathic - he says things that you've been thinking of and maybe this is his soul's way of saying to you that he does understand you at some level and by repeating back to you what you say could be his key? i am not medically trained these are just my feeling surfermum and as i was typing my fingers could not keep up

Desiderata · 13/06/2007 21:09

Well, thanks for your post, Shiny. It was very touching and thought-provoking.

I have always firmly believed, as did my father, that your children chose you.

I wasn't planning on having kids. But at 39, I found myself pregnant. And then I knew what I think I have always known. It would be a boy, and we were meant to be together.

My ds (2.7), quite often in a sleep-befuddled state, will sometimes ask where his 'other mummy' is. It's as if he carries a memory of another time. He comes out with other stuff, too, but this is the most consistent phrase. He has also told me that when I was a baby, he used to hold my hand and look after me.

I can't explain it and I don't even want to. But it's magical.

fransmom · 13/06/2007 21:13

i can explain it but won't if you don't want me too

fransmom · 13/06/2007 21:13

errrggggggggh to

musicianswidowAKAmumofmonsters · 13/06/2007 21:18

shiny what a lovely post. Thank you for sharing that. I agree with fransmom, it does sound like he has some sort of telepathy with you. ALthough i have no gift in these things it appears that way to me

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