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Unborn Spirit children

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Papillon · 13/10/2005 16:30

Here are some links about them:

cosmic cradle
Pre-birth communication and here
Spirit babies

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Aitch · 04/06/2007 00:11

i don't think that sceptics should prevent you from posting this sort of thing, people with a greater understanding should welcome the challenge of scepticism, surely? i'm a big-time sceptic, it's all a load of rubbish etc etc (but i'm pally with Gordon Smith the psychic and some of the things i've seen him do would blow your mind.) but i'm still a sceptic, oh yeah. deffo.

Twinklemegan · 04/06/2007 00:26

The scientific part of me says I'm a sceptic. The way ttc messed with my head makes me not so sure...

Twinklemegan · 04/06/2007 00:27

And it's a damned sight more interesting than most of the stuff on here at the mo.

Aitch · 04/06/2007 00:37

me too, twinkle, and i agree about the general boringness and also attrition levels on here. i used to love the ghosty threads as well. but i'm Still A Sceptic. you just ask my friend Gordon... he's offered to do a reading for me but i shat myself. but i've sat in on readings and been contacted by (i think) my dad who rather stuck hi head round the door. Nut I'm Still A Sceptic.

Aitch · 04/06/2007 00:37

But, not nut...

hedda · 04/06/2007 00:45

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Aitch · 04/06/2007 00:50

pffffft, some scientist you are...

cool story, how lovely for you.

ghosty · 04/06/2007 03:02

I absolutely KNOW that DD (now aged 3) is the same baby I miscarried 6 months before she was conceived. Absolutely, without a doubt. It wasn't her time and I sincerely believe that the body of that m/c baby wasn't right so DD decided to hold out until a bit later. I feel sad about that miscarriage, obviously, but I have DD now and she was meant to be here so ....
I would love to chat to some of you offline about this sort of stuff ... it's right up my street ...
ghostyandmeg(at)bigpond(dot)com ...

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/06/2007 08:41

I miscarried a baby at nine weeks in 1997. I started spotting on the Sunday of a bank holiday weekend while visiting family 200 miles away from where I then lived. The on-call doctor told me to go back to my sister's house and rest and that I could be scanned the next day.

I continued spotting but the loss was no more than that. That night I had a very vivid dream, so vivid that I remember it in the same detail ten years later. I dreamed that a beautiful-looking older lady with a kind face came and took a tiny, live newborn girl out of my arms (I don't remember "giving birth" in the dream) and with a smile on her face said "No, don't name her now. She's not going to stay with you at the moment, I have to take her with me." And I handed her over without sadness.

The next morning, although the blood loss was no heavier, I "knew" the pregnancy would not continue. As soon as we arrived at the hospital for the scan, I went to the loo and lost a very large "clot". Once scanned, there was nothing to see but a slight thickening of the womb lining showing where she had been.

I have remained convinced that the baby I lost was a girl. I had an online reading 2 or 3 years ago and without knowing anything at all about me (or obviously even laying eyes on me) the "reader" told me that she had a vivid image of someone she felt was my maternal grandmother, holding some pearls (I have her simulated pearl necklace) and standing with a little girl who looked about seven or eight, with blonde curly hair. She wanted to know if I had lost a child as they were both sending me so much love and telling me everything would be alright and to "keep studying". (I had just started study with the OU.)

I have just realised that the tenth anniversary of losing this baby was 4 days ago. I hadn't thought about her in a while.

Aitch, re what you say about the sceptics (and I'm not sure I'd describe myself as one, but I don't automatically "swallow" everything spiritual that I hear just because it sounds nice, either).. it's hard to post your inner most thoughts and experiences as many of us have on this thread, and then have people barge in and say "FGS.. get over it..." etc. Nobody has done so on this thread either originally or since it got bumped yesterday, which is great, but that's maybe because people are mainly talking about babies they have lost and so peolple manage to hold back their scorn and disbelief that there could possibly be anything more "out there" then what appears to be so to them. I wish they could also do so on some of the other spiritual threads. There are threads where we do debate such things, such as issues of faith (Unquiet Dad and I always seems to debate such things and I think you can debate without sneering at other people's thoughts/expereinces) and then there are those, like this one, where people just want to share. I hope we can have more of these again.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/06/2007 08:49

(Hedda that's a lovely story. )

I think I mentioned a book by this author further down, orginally, but I must recommend her to all the news posters on the thread - you would find the stuff she has written facsinating if you haven't already read any of it, I promise. And the sceptics would too I think. She is Elisabath Hallett, a very experienced midwife who has a great deal of experience in the field of pre birth communication. See here.. www.thelaboroflove.com/forum/elisabeth/prebirth.html

The book that allowed me to discover her was this one.. Stores of the Unborn Soul: The mystery and delight of pre birth communication. Here.. www.amazon.co.uk/Stories-Unborn-Soul-Pre-birth-Communication/dp/0595223613/ref=sr_1_1/203-5057101-9579950?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180943242&sr=1-1. It was one of the first spiritual books I every read and I could not put it down. Would highly recommend it.

fransmom · 04/06/2007 12:39

hello just quickly scanned thru this thread as on my lunch break from work and have to be back soon - it's lovely knowing there are people we can talk to and have similar experiences as well. shphh, i shall try and update cat thing later when i've finished for the day

melsy · 04/06/2007 23:17

lovely everyones bringing their storied back here and this space is stayng positive and sensitive.

Ive spoken with Elisabeth Hallet via email and shes VERY ineterested in these stories. Im yet to read her books , but read everything on her website.

Shiny & Frans Ive just updated Cat , routers been down all day , so just catching up now. Ghosty u might get a message from me too ! I have only a handful of friends I can dsicuss these things with at length.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/06/2007 23:30

You have spoken to Elisabeth Hallet by email Melsy??!!! WOW! Am genuinely in awe!!!

Have you read her books? I desperately want Soul Trek but it is always so expensive! It's even quite expensive second hand so I've not read it yet...

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/06/2007 23:31

Ooops sorry.. I see you've yet to read them. Read them!!!

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/06/2007 23:39

Just wanted to add the excerpt from Chapter 9 of Soul Trek that I just found on EH's site.

Has anyone ever expereinced anything like this?

From Chapter Nine, "A Presence". . .

How does it feel when a "spirit child" visits? A thread that runs through so many stories is the love that is experienced with these contacts.

"A great feeling of love washed over me as if pouring over my head. . . the sensation of great all-encompassing love was overwhelming." Expressions like this recur throughout stories of pre-conception and pregnancy as well. People speak of being cuddled, hugged, soothed and surrounded by love. They mention feelings of warmth and familiarity. One mother describes the presence as feeling "like an old friend had hugged me."

In the next story, a waking vision accompanies the experience of a loving presence.

I was one month pregnant with my second child. My four year old daughter, Catherine, and I were folding laundry in the family room. Oddly enough, Catherine, who hadn't needed an afternoon nap in perhaps a year, goes to the couch and immediately falls asleep! "Some unexpected, precious time to myself," I think.

Suddenly, I feel a heaviness in the room, a presence. It becomes almost palpable, a never-before-experienced feeling of "someone" being there with me. I can laugh at the situation; am I losing my mind or what?! It lingers, heavy. I look around, finally saying out loud, "Who's there?" I continue asking and looking, laughing a little at what I must look like. Finally, a feeling; a feeling that I am in touch with something very GOOD. LOVE ITSELF.

I suddenly see an image directly in front of me of a young, fair-haired, fair-skinned man. I know he is the spirit of the child within me. I feel such a sense of love, "karmic destiny," of history between us, but yet a sense that I haven't been with him for a very long time. A someone I have deep, deep love for and a profound connection with. I now know that we are reunited as mother and son. I feel such gratitude. With tears running down my face, I say out loud, "Thank God we are together again, you and I! We're back together and my love for you runs as deep as deep comes. Welcome. Welcome back."

I quickly get up and go to another room to find paper and pen to write down what occurred. I am still emotionally overcome. When I finish writing, I pause a moment and breathe deeply. Suddenly Catherine calls my name. She's awake! I am struck by the coincidence of her brief, unexpected nap and my "visitation."

Much of what I have written today is quoted from what I wrote that afternoon. I went on to have a fair-haired, very fair-skinned boy. He's sixteen months old now and we're very close!"

pucca · 04/06/2007 23:40

The Stories of the Unborn Soul book sounds very interesting but also quite expensive.

My story is further down, but still feel quite shocked at it all tbh, very odd.

ShinyHappyPeopleHoldingHands · 04/06/2007 23:48

The books are cheaper on her site Pucca.. I have just seen that Soul Trek is only £7 something. I will treat myself some time soon!

Surfermum · 05/06/2007 20:54

What a great thread. I had 2 mcs before I had dd. The first I always grieve for on the anniversary and we've put a plant in the garden, the second I never give another thought to and I've always wondered why I feel so differently about them. While reading this thread I got a strong feeling that the 2nd mc is in fact dd. I wonder if that explains it?

I know the first mc was a boy, he comes to help FIL with his gardening (FIL's a medium and a great healer). I've just learnt to meditate and on one of the first times I had a go on my own I saw him and he told me that if I smell bacon sandwiches, which I have done a couple of times, he's around .

Surfermum · 05/06/2007 22:11

Pucca - I just booked a reading with Gail. I'm very excited!! Should have it tomorrow night.

fransmom · 08/06/2007 20:28

surfermum how did you go?

melsy · 09/06/2007 20:21

fransmom , did you get my cat ?

musicianswidowAKAmumofmonsters · 09/06/2007 20:38

I am glad someone has bumped this thread. I came back to it a few times after my m/c last year. It made me think that i was meant to have another child but that child decided now(then) wasn't a good time.

Its comforting to think that there is the spirit oif another child waiting for the right time but at the same time i can't help but wonder if that m/c symbolised everything i have lost and never greived for.

CaptainCaveman · 09/06/2007 21:02

I remember reading this thread when it first started, it makes me feel so peaceful re-reading it.

A couple of days before I found out I was pg I had a really vivid dream about me holding a baby boy with fair hair and blue eyes. We looked at each other and I loved him immensely, we were both very calm and I knew we were meant to be together.
Ds is now 3, and yes he has fair hair and blue eyes, and he is absolutely that baby I held in my arms in my dream.

fransmom · 09/06/2007 21:08

might it help to know that sometimes mc children only need to be on the earth for a very short itme to learn what they needed to know?

kamikayzed · 09/06/2007 21:09

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