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Is anyone a reluctant carer for an adult child?

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massivestress · 21/05/2026 13:35

Name changed for this as I’m aware I will sound like a complete cow.
i can’t cope mentally anymore. My ds has a mental illness which has taken over their life. No job, moved out for a couple weeks, couldn’t cope. Has taken over the dining room and is in there 24/7 except to come and eat all the snacks or have dinner if I cajole them.
wont engage with social services, attends therapy we pay for at £200 a session (fortnightly, I’m in debt) as the NHS more severe support is shit and has a waiting list anyway. Is almost 30. Has given up all hope. Doesn’t pay anything to us due to some bloody stupid choices they can’t change now. It’s like my life is over. ive suggested going on the council list - no. Over the years we’ve paid for so much therapy and supported things. I can’t see an end in sight, I’m just stuck now with this person getting older and more and more reclusive.

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Arran2024 · 04/06/2026 15:02

Supersimkin7 · 04/06/2026 13:45

Mental ill health, I'm told, is due to a choice or series of choices the person has made based on, typically, difficult situation(s) they've had. IE It is self inflicted.

No.

And what a very unsupportive way of looking at someone who has experienced significant hard times. Those are to be ignored apparently - all focus on how they respond?

What if your mother drank while pregnant and you ended up with foetal alcohol syndrome for example? This is like having a severe brain injury.

You cannot look at people's choices in isolation, which is why for example sentencing reports, mitigation pleas exist.

RunningFromThePastHell · 04/06/2026 21:23

Incrediblysad · 04/06/2026 12:26

It’s not possible to leave home and use benefits to pay your way. There are virtually no landlords who accept DHSS tenants now and benefits won’t always even cover rent and bills.

It IS possible. It may not be possible everywhere, depending on housing costs, I agree. But it's not a blanket impossibility.

People would have said it was impossible back when I did it - because they couldn't fathom living on basic under-25 rate benefits. But I scraped by because I was so desperate to escape the home I'd grown up in. I rented a room in an HMO, not a flat.

It just doesn't sound like that for OP's DS. He doesn't sound like he's frightened and timid and trying to avoid abuse. He's just unfairly blaming her and being demanding.

TinyMouseTheatre · 04/06/2026 22:19

RunningFromThePastHell · 04/06/2026 21:23

It IS possible. It may not be possible everywhere, depending on housing costs, I agree. But it's not a blanket impossibility.

People would have said it was impossible back when I did it - because they couldn't fathom living on basic under-25 rate benefits. But I scraped by because I was so desperate to escape the home I'd grown up in. I rented a room in an HMO, not a flat.

It just doesn't sound like that for OP's DS. He doesn't sound like he's frightened and timid and trying to avoid abuse. He's just unfairly blaming her and being demanding.

I’m so sorry you had to go through that and you’re right, it does entirely depend on where you live and very few young people can afford to rent a flat or even a house, most I know are living in HMOs.

massivestress · 05/06/2026 07:30

Well it’s been up and down here. Some small breakthrough with one of the challenges of therapy which was to brush his hair. So that’s sort of working sometimes. But still the lack of emotional regulation and just not being able to cope without snapping or shouting.
its so helpful to read back through ideas and suggestions and experiences.
I’ve also managed since starting the thread to really try to be calm and not shout back or criticise when the taps going. It’s really really hard and I’m doing a lot of gritting teeth and deep breathing (away from him) but it’s probably better for us all.

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TinyMouseTheatre · 05/06/2026 07:47

massivestress · 05/06/2026 07:30

Well it’s been up and down here. Some small breakthrough with one of the challenges of therapy which was to brush his hair. So that’s sort of working sometimes. But still the lack of emotional regulation and just not being able to cope without snapping or shouting.
its so helpful to read back through ideas and suggestions and experiences.
I’ve also managed since starting the thread to really try to be calm and not shout back or criticise when the taps going. It’s really really hard and I’m doing a lot of gritting teeth and deep breathing (away from him) but it’s probably better for us all.

Well done for keeping calm. I can’t imagine how hard that must be Flowers

Shrinkhole · 05/06/2026 07:52

I was thinking that if he claimed PIP and you made him give you some rent and keep money it might reduce your irritation about the taps. Many people with a disability need to use more water for stuff like extra washing if incontinent and PIP is to cover extra disability related costs. If you thought about the water as a cost of his disability and he contributed would that help do you think?

massivestress · 05/06/2026 11:12

@Shrinkhole thank you, you are correct. I think starting this thread has been really helpful and hopefully for others too. He is waiting on a PIP decision.

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Incrediblysad · 11/06/2026 22:53

How are you doing OP?

massivestress · 12/06/2026 21:20

Hi @Incrediblysad thanks for asking. I think starting the thread has been really helpful actually. No change in mental health obviously, but I have walked away from any temptation to be drawn into an argument and I feel less on edge. Luckily he’s grown out of following me shouting which happened as a teen so by not even reacting or nagging or asking if he wants dinner etc it’s calmer for now.

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Incrediblysad · 12/06/2026 21:44

Oh that’s good to hear!

Dogaredabomb · 16/06/2026 05:30

I'm sorry to be a downer but I'm having a desperate time, I've made a catastrophic mistake. My eldest son has drank three times in the past 2 weeks.

He was sober for 8 months and he was a very very very bad drunk before with very terrible legal, financial and health consequences.

The first time he drank he was just ill and I was angry the following day and reiterated that he cannot live in my house if he drinks. The second time he was aggressive (as he used to be) and unfortunately I told my other son.

I wish desperately that I had kept it from my youngest as he's very vulnerable with asd and is now terribly scared about the catastrophic damage that the oldest has done so many times in the past. And I would expect will again.

The third time he drank he found out that I had told the youngest and is in a towering, unrelenting rage that I told and ruined the repair of their very fragile relationship.

I'd already moved across the country to get us some peace from him and now I've brought him to destroy it. I know I sound evil but we have been through so much.

But I desperately wish I'd protected my youngest from this crap.

massivestress · 16/06/2026 07:33

Oh @Dogaredabomb you’re not a downer, the whole thread is about how awful it is being in this position.
I am so sorry about this, you just feel so powerless don’t you. In reality what choices do you have about your son living there, no one is going to make their child homeless, it’s like we keep thinking it’s not bad enough.
how old is your other son? Do you think you can reassure him or support him to maybe speak to someone like al anon, for family members? I’ve found the school for my youngest to be really helpful just to provide someone to talk to him who isn’t me?

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Incrediblysad · 16/06/2026 07:36

Dogaredabomb · 16/06/2026 05:30

I'm sorry to be a downer but I'm having a desperate time, I've made a catastrophic mistake. My eldest son has drank three times in the past 2 weeks.

He was sober for 8 months and he was a very very very bad drunk before with very terrible legal, financial and health consequences.

The first time he drank he was just ill and I was angry the following day and reiterated that he cannot live in my house if he drinks. The second time he was aggressive (as he used to be) and unfortunately I told my other son.

I wish desperately that I had kept it from my youngest as he's very vulnerable with asd and is now terribly scared about the catastrophic damage that the oldest has done so many times in the past. And I would expect will again.

The third time he drank he found out that I had told the youngest and is in a towering, unrelenting rage that I told and ruined the repair of their very fragile relationship.

I'd already moved across the country to get us some peace from him and now I've brought him to destroy it. I know I sound evil but we have been through so much.

But I desperately wish I'd protected my youngest from this crap.

How dreadful for you. If you moved across country how is he able to come and trash your house and frighten you? You’re doing the best you can. We all
make mistakes at times,
you’re trying your best.

massivestress · 16/06/2026 09:52

We are also having a rubbish time. Ds revealed that he does not ever see himself having a job, partner, house and doesn’t know where this will end.
I think I have had two realities to give myself hope (the current one, and one where they get better and leave).
I don’t see what my future looks like now except feeding and paying for this damaged person to live here forever. I’m worried that when I die my other kids won’t be able to get them out and they will somehow get the house.

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Orangesandlemons77 · 16/06/2026 18:26

Ds revealed that he does not ever see himself having a job, partner, house and doesn’t know where this will end

Maybe some counselling might help him? Not everyone needs to 'succeed' in all of that to be happy. Maybe he is setting himself up for failure if he judges himself like that.

It's a bit sad to see them as 'this person' they are not a random person, they are your son. I guess it shows the distance that is between you now.

massivestress · 16/06/2026 19:42

Hi @Orangesandlemons77 thank you, I agree it is sad. I kind of started this thread nervous to say the unsayable at times but just needing somewhere to connect or get advice.
I’m so tired by the caring that I’ve definitely lost sight of us as people.
he does have regular therapy, I have suggested he raises this with them.

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massivestress · 16/06/2026 21:52

In the last 30 mins they have been and run the water in the loo approx 7 times washing their hands. We have gone through six large hand washes in the last fortnight. Before they came home the hand wash was lasting a lot longer.
this is the stuff that raises my blood pressure and anytime I ask if they can try I just get yelled at, how they are so ill and it’s terrible for them. There’s just no care that it’s my money being washed down the sink. Does anyone at all relate to this?

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Incrediblysad · 16/06/2026 22:00

massivestress · 16/06/2026 21:52

In the last 30 mins they have been and run the water in the loo approx 7 times washing their hands. We have gone through six large hand washes in the last fortnight. Before they came home the hand wash was lasting a lot longer.
this is the stuff that raises my blood pressure and anytime I ask if they can try I just get yelled at, how they are so ill and it’s terrible for them. There’s just no care that it’s my money being washed down the sink. Does anyone at all relate to this?

What does the therapist say about it?

PoppySaidYesIKnow · 17/06/2026 21:41

You may have mentioned upthread so apologies if you did, but this seems to be quite extreme OCD. Has he made the therapist aware of this? Maybe they’d have different strategies to manage it. It must be so hard for all of you, there’s so much for you to deal with. Handwashing is a bit of an issue with my relative too, it seems quite common alongside more complex mental health difficulties.

redmapleleaves1 · 18/06/2026 21:25

@massivestress well done for managing to keep largely calm in such stressful circumstances.

When you describe the handwashing, like someone upthread, I wonder if you are charging rent/from his PIP/or universal credit. I have been charging my son for his keep for the last 6 months, though he isn't on benefits and it is coming from his savings. So in many ways I feel embarrassed to be charging, though it is only going to actual expenses I have more of now he is here. BUT the big difference it does make for me, is that when he is being wildly annoying, I can remind myself there is a contribution to divert my frustration, or to get a small treat for myself, or a coffee in a nice cafe to give me some respite, or a treat for us both, like a takeaway, so we have a little bit of uplift, alongside the snarking. And it is also a tiny bit of a boundary, to remind him he is no longer 14, and that as an adult, there are shared costs which it is up to him to contribute to, if he isn't absolutely destitute. It is a very very hard situation you are any, and anything which helps releave the pressure, like counselling for yourself, or perfume, or a fun night out, or bedding plants or a reiki session or whatever, which his keep might contribute to, could help.

When they describe themselves as having no hope that any of this will change, of course it massively kicks you in the stomach, both as a parent, and as the person supporting him. But you know he is depressed. His judgement is skewed on this as on so many things right now, that doesn't mean it is the truth or how things will have to be. In my life I do find it helpful to look back on previous times of turmoil and to see how I am in a different situation now, against hope. And I do think tales like this can be helpful to our young adults, as they have such limited contact with the outside world, and so knowing that eg 13 years ago, I was struggling to get a divorce, to find the cash to pay for it, to get my ex to agree to it, to parent two deeply traumatised teens who weren't settled at school and knew no one. And over the next few years, xyz changed (even if it is no longer the case) and things did get considerably better. E.g. for my son who arrived knowing no one, first he went to the playground alone, then he met one person, then he dared to hang out with them at school, then over the next six months xyz... Of course none of this is now but it might help remind him of when he had agency in the past, and how small courageous actions then made a difference. Either way they might be small stories he returns to in the dead of the night.

Oh @Dogaredabomb I'm so sorry. This sounds such a stress. Irrespective of how angry your oldest son is at you sharing the situation, this doesn't mean you can't or couldn't. We are allowed to share what is going on for us, we don't need permission. I'm guessing he is so angry because he feels ashamed or scared, - not that this changes things for you, but you are allowed to be your own person, not just a caregiver in all this.

And similarly, with your youngest, so sorry he is now so scared. Does he have other support? Is there someone else he feels safe with who might reassure him or give a bit of respite, so it isn't all up to you? But again, we are all fallible, we make mistakes, it is really hard you have to manage the repercussions of this, but we'd all on this thread have done similar. You can't be perfect all the time, cut yourself some slack. Here are some virtual MN brownies for you to eat, all on your own, no sharing allowed.

In case it might help anyone, I've been reading Failure to Launch, Mark McConville, which was recommended on a fb thread I think. He is a clinical psychologist and family therapist with teens/young adults/parents. I'm around halfway through it and have found his tone, the examples and ways for framing things useful. It isn't necessarily dealing with the most extreme situations which have been discussed on this thread, but nonetheless, for me was helpful in surfacing issues in my control I could address.

massivestress · 19/06/2026 16:29

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Dogaredabomb · 21/06/2026 07:54

OP I relate to thinking 'this person' is very very much. It's like you're a hostage and there's no way out.

I'll respond to other things later, I just wanted to say that.

massivestress · 21/06/2026 10:48

Thank you @Dogaredabomb I’m trying to be honest about things maybe it’s good to share stuff. I did try the local carers group but it’s older people looking after spouses or parents and meets during the day and I’m still working. They were very nice though.
i shared too much in the last post, so had it deleted as I don’t want them to recognise themselves.

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Dogaredabomb · 22/06/2026 05:48

I tried the local carers group too but they said it was mixed groups. In my opinion caring for someone with mh issues is a different kettle of fish. They suggested trying Mind for carers support groups.

The other day I looked at him to smile and he said 'oh you're very observant aren't you' sarcastically. I asked what he meant and he said I'd caught him putting a glass of water on the floor (rather than the table). I said I was only smiling and wondering if he was was watching telly too.

He then said 'alright, don't get stuck on it' which is a favourite phrase to stop me explaining or asking what happened. Every day is ruined by him saying something weird and aggressive like that.

I'm going to pursue a homeless at home application for him and get my house back to myself. It'll take up to a year I think but should be some light at the end of the tunnel.

You mentioned OP worrying about your other kids being able to get him out after you're gone. I think about this too and I think I'll downsize as much as possible and give my youngest his share early (only into a property) and then he doesn't have a battle on his hands after I'm gone.

Incrediblysad · 22/06/2026 06:20

Dogaredabomb · 22/06/2026 05:48

I tried the local carers group too but they said it was mixed groups. In my opinion caring for someone with mh issues is a different kettle of fish. They suggested trying Mind for carers support groups.

The other day I looked at him to smile and he said 'oh you're very observant aren't you' sarcastically. I asked what he meant and he said I'd caught him putting a glass of water on the floor (rather than the table). I said I was only smiling and wondering if he was was watching telly too.

He then said 'alright, don't get stuck on it' which is a favourite phrase to stop me explaining or asking what happened. Every day is ruined by him saying something weird and aggressive like that.

I'm going to pursue a homeless at home application for him and get my house back to myself. It'll take up to a year I think but should be some light at the end of the tunnel.

You mentioned OP worrying about your other kids being able to get him out after you're gone. I think about this too and I think I'll downsize as much as possible and give my youngest his share early (only into a property) and then he doesn't have a battle on his hands after I'm gone.

I attended a couple of groups and found them very helpful. There were people caring for children with mental health issues, elderly parents etc. everyone had something useful to contribute. Give it a try and stick with it for a few weeks.

I also know what you mean about the constant passive aggressive comments. They absolutely wear you to the bone. It's so so hard. Anyway that you can get him out of the house will be an improvement. Unfortunately there is then the constant worry about whether they are OK.