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Stranger calling me a bad parent

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Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 13:41

I’m just typing this to get it off my chest as I don’t really have many people to talk to. At the weekend I was with my daughter in a park, it was crowded due to an event happening at the same time. My daughter spotted some flowers and went to look at them. She stood in the flower bed and ran away from me, she then stood on a flower. I had grabbed her before then but my mum said she was ok to go back to have a look. My mum then said just grab her as she stood on a flower.

I lifted her up and a young woman standing by started saying I was disrespectful. I said well she’s only 3. The boyfriend then pipes up saying ‘we’re not talking to a 3 year old. We pay our taxes.’ I replied I also pay taxes?’ The woman then says ‘look at all the other children behaving nicely and not playing in the flowers, couldn’t you tell you were doing something wrong!’ I did see red and did lose my temper at this point and couldn’t believe she said this to me. I asked if they saw me as an easy target and if they would confront a gang of teenagers/men in the same manner. There were teens climbing a war memorial near by and I asked if they were going to say anything to them? They started needling me out of the way and I said I wanted to go where I was standing originally. At this point a man starts shouting at me that I’m pushing him. I just keep thinking about scared my daughter must have been of this.

I can’t stop thinking about how this has affected my daughter. It was Mother’s Day yesterday and I couldn’t stop thinking how I’ve raised a child. I’m a single parent, I lost a lot of blood in childbirth, I had post natal depression. My daughter still has issues sleeping. I’ve had not a day without worry in 3 years. But the a young woman can just comment so confidently on my parenting skills and not feel an ounce of shame. To get to that park yesterday I had to pack food, supplies, I had to make sure I had wipes, water even medicine. Did she have that sort of preparation?

it’s funny as I was going to give her a tablet to watch cartoons on (we were waiting for the event) but I thought it was good she wanted to get involved with nature. Ironic if she’d been on her tablet we would have gone without comment.

I can’t get the whole thing out of my head. My mum walked off so this upset my daughter as she gets separation anxiety. My mum walking off just added to the whole thing. I can’t discuss this with her as she believes this was my fault for interacting with them. I try to raise with her that I felt so alone and why as a parent she wouldn’t take my side automatically? I can’t get my head round that. She just can’t see my point of view and how awful I found that woman’s comment. She added that she never received any comments like that as we were always well behaved. Can I add at this point my daughter is the most lovely, well behaved little girl. She can be very cautious with new situations, she’s gentle with babies and younger kids, we’ve taken flights and car rides and people comment how good she is. Can I also say how worried I always am about being respectful. I litter pick, I always recycle, I always go back in to shops to pay if I’ve forgotten something in my trolley. I even cross the road in a respectful way 😂 I would never want to destroy something in nature, I plant my own flowers!

I get anxiety going out anyway but had to push myself yesterday as I didn’t want to have to hideaway(I probably would of if I was by myself) I’m just not sure how I forget about this, how do I parent with confidence when outside. How do I not combust with anxiety if my daughter wants to play in public again. How do I try and forget the tag of ‘bad parent’ has anyone been through anything similar?

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Theseventhmagpie · 31/03/2025 17:16

Were you going to give her headphones for the iPad if she was going to use it in public?
If you weren’t you are a terrible parent and letting her play in the flower bed was unacceptable.

OneBigToDoList · 31/03/2025 17:16

I think people are being harsh here! I have a 2yr old who did something similar in a park - they are quick! It's obviously not ideal, but she is little and learning, and you removed her from the situation, I'm not sure what else you could've done. No doubt someone would have judged you for giving her an iPad too. I made a lot of judgements before I had kids which I now feel stupid about, maybe one day those people will remember what they said and feel bad.

hehehesorry · 31/03/2025 17:23

Another point to add - even if they were bothered by the flowers, I doubt an "Oh nooo don't step on those pretty flowers!" and a nice smile would have upset the OP so much. Their whole approach was just nasty and harsh like they were taking their bad day out on an easy victim. There are alot of people like that in the UK lately, very tense and nasty. It's an outdated word to use, but alot of people act like middle class chavs these days.

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WavyRavey · 31/03/2025 17:24

My favourite thing to say in situations like this is "go fuck yourself"

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:29

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 17:15

It's not either/or

But it was for Mr lager can, "I pay my taxes".

THAT'S THE POINT.

AnneLovesGilbert · 31/03/2025 17:32

WavyRavey · 31/03/2025 17:24

My favourite thing to say in situations like this is "go fuck yourself"

You do that in front of young children do you?

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 17:39

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:29

But it was for Mr lager can, "I pay my taxes".

THAT'S THE POINT.

Edited

It would be handy to have the other side of the story although obviously that's impossible. The OPs mum walking off is telling. The OP seems to also have had several people commenting on her and her child which can't have been very nice for the OP but does mean more than one person had an issue with her.

I think you are extrapolating a lot from what the OP has said. I personally would never tell off someone else's child but also I would be really irritated if a parent didn't stop a child doing something destructive in a public space, particularly flowers. People get huge pleasure from flowers. I think those people that did pull the OP up didn't do anything wrong although as I said it's not something I personally would do.

RobertaFirmino · 31/03/2025 17:39

Allowing flowers to be trampled is disrespectful. Regardless of who is doing the trampling and the back stories of either tramplee or enabler.
They sounded quite rude tbh. There will always be people you perceive as rude wherever you go. I suggest working on your anxiety so you can get to a point where you can completely disregard the ill-mannered and just think 'Oh shut up, you silly little man'.

bettydavieseyes · 31/03/2025 17:46

Organic82 · 31/03/2025 17:03

Not a chance you felt anxious or upset about this

patently clear that you are very confident in your parenting !

Insecure people often come across as defensive. It's because they are anxious. She hasn't made up a thread for pure amusement. It's obvious from what she's said the whole thing has played too many times in her mind and made her upset. This thread is making it worse.

1AngelicFruitCake · 31/03/2025 17:47

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 14:00

I think that’s the thing, they don’t know my backstory so maybe shouldn’t have a go. I was taking her away and they had a go as I was leaving. As I said there were things going on nearby which I think was worse but they didn’t want to get involved as they weren’t small women? In my opinion

You don’t know theirs. Maybe they desperately want a child. Maybe they have one and wouldn’t let their child do that.
She is 3 and old enough to not stand on flowers and as it was an accident, to learn not to do it again.

bettydavieseyes · 31/03/2025 17:47

hehehesorry · 31/03/2025 17:23

Another point to add - even if they were bothered by the flowers, I doubt an "Oh nooo don't step on those pretty flowers!" and a nice smile would have upset the OP so much. Their whole approach was just nasty and harsh like they were taking their bad day out on an easy victim. There are alot of people like that in the UK lately, very tense and nasty. It's an outdated word to use, but alot of people act like middle class chavs these days.

I agree. They were goading for a fight. Enjoying themselves.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:48

The OPs mum walking off is telling

It's telling of something about her.

RedOrangeSky · 31/03/2025 17:48

They were harsh.

My 2 year old keeps running up to flowers and picking them and then throwing them. It's hard to stop her unless I physically grab her.

KeepOnKeepingOn25 · 31/03/2025 17:51

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 16:00

I don’t think I ever had your sympathy, and I posted that at the start when I had all the strange negative comments all at once

Sorry OP, you tend to get the harsh posters first, in a bit of a pile on usually. One of those quirks of mumsnetland…

I think of them as the ‘firing squad’ 😂

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:52

Maybe they desperately want a child. Maybe they have one and wouldn’t let their child do that.

Try reading a thread.

Op already answered that.

And what Mr "I pay my taxes" daytime drinker at a family event would let or not let his theoretical child do or not do; is entirely speculative.

Lots of non parents have lots of ideas about what this child will do or not do and his their parenting would be that fall apart the second the reality of parenting sets in.

They don't sound good potential parents to me at all.

He sounds like a bully

He sounds like he has an ax to grind about right wing issues.

He sounds prejudiced.

He is oddly disinterested in the war memorial misuse for someone with right wing views incidentally.

Probably because a gang of teenagers could be a potential threat to him - no, he chose the woman, the woman with the small child.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:57

She is 3 and old enough to not stand on flowers and as it was an accident, to learn not to do it again.

Cool, the op can tell her to not stand on them again and hopefully - at the grand old age of 3, she'll learn.

And silly young people with no kids and with axes to grind about 'paying their taxes" while assuming - due to prejudice and ignorance - that a mother does not pay taxes ....can learn to shut the fuck up.

cestlavielife · 31/03/2025 17:57

You need to ignore others and walk away.
The next seeing red could get you hurt.
Just smile and wave and carry on.

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 18:00

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:48

The OPs mum walking off is telling

It's telling of something about her.

Well we just don't know unfortunately as we only have the OPs version. Which is perfectly reasonable as its her thread of course.

sandyhappypeople · 31/03/2025 18:04

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:29

But it was for Mr lager can, "I pay my taxes".

THAT'S THE POINT.

Edited

Not really, seeing as he wasn't even the one that said anything about the flowers, it was the woman he was with.. he only jumped in when OP started arguing with her, it was his girlfriend that was the one calling OP disrespectful, and saying none of the other children around them were trampling in the flower beds. The man who shouted at her about pushing him, seemed to be a different man who OP bumped into during the kerfuffle?

I'm not sure where the taxes comment came from to be fair, but he only got involved because OP was arguing with his girlfriend and she was standing right in front of them, I wouldn't cross halfway across a park to bollock someone who didn't pick up dog poo.. but if someone did it in front of me I'd certainly say something.. so I don't think they picked on OP because of who she was, they just saw something disrespectful happening and said something about it.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 18:16

I'm not sure where the taxes comment came from to be fair

You're either disengenuous or .....

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 18:17

he only jumped in when OP started arguing with her

Someone started that argument, and it wasn't the op.

DonaldMacRonald · 31/03/2025 18:17

I'm a single parent of a toddler. Who would love to get in the flower bed and stomp about.

I think that you were unreasonable to allow her to go back into the flower bed. If she wanted to see the flowers, you should have stood by her side and let her smell them or look at them.

The couple were wrong to speak to you in the way they did.

notatinydancer · 31/03/2025 18:19

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 13:50

That was just a general thing, like to get there to that point at that time I had a lot of preparation (as I do every day). It takes a lot of effort. It would be nice if people could take that into account maybe, that’s all I meant.

But why would anyone be thinking about how much effort it had taken you to get out ?

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 18:19

they just saw something disrespectful happening and said something about it

It wasn't disrespectful.

It was a very young, excited child tramping on a couple of flowers and her Mum not being fast enough to stop her.

As many people have said her, it's not uncommon with young kids.

Not "disrespectful".

Something truly disrespectful was happening within their sight, and they chose to say nothing about that. Because the teenage boys weren't an easy target.

Organic82 · 31/03/2025 18:23

bettydavieseyes · 31/03/2025 17:46

Insecure people often come across as defensive. It's because they are anxious. She hasn't made up a thread for pure amusement. It's obvious from what she's said the whole thing has played too many times in her mind and made her upset. This thread is making it worse.

She hasn't made up a thread for pure amusement.

New to mumsnet I presume @bettydavieseyes ?!

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