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Stranger calling me a bad parent

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Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 13:41

I’m just typing this to get it off my chest as I don’t really have many people to talk to. At the weekend I was with my daughter in a park, it was crowded due to an event happening at the same time. My daughter spotted some flowers and went to look at them. She stood in the flower bed and ran away from me, she then stood on a flower. I had grabbed her before then but my mum said she was ok to go back to have a look. My mum then said just grab her as she stood on a flower.

I lifted her up and a young woman standing by started saying I was disrespectful. I said well she’s only 3. The boyfriend then pipes up saying ‘we’re not talking to a 3 year old. We pay our taxes.’ I replied I also pay taxes?’ The woman then says ‘look at all the other children behaving nicely and not playing in the flowers, couldn’t you tell you were doing something wrong!’ I did see red and did lose my temper at this point and couldn’t believe she said this to me. I asked if they saw me as an easy target and if they would confront a gang of teenagers/men in the same manner. There were teens climbing a war memorial near by and I asked if they were going to say anything to them? They started needling me out of the way and I said I wanted to go where I was standing originally. At this point a man starts shouting at me that I’m pushing him. I just keep thinking about scared my daughter must have been of this.

I can’t stop thinking about how this has affected my daughter. It was Mother’s Day yesterday and I couldn’t stop thinking how I’ve raised a child. I’m a single parent, I lost a lot of blood in childbirth, I had post natal depression. My daughter still has issues sleeping. I’ve had not a day without worry in 3 years. But the a young woman can just comment so confidently on my parenting skills and not feel an ounce of shame. To get to that park yesterday I had to pack food, supplies, I had to make sure I had wipes, water even medicine. Did she have that sort of preparation?

it’s funny as I was going to give her a tablet to watch cartoons on (we were waiting for the event) but I thought it was good she wanted to get involved with nature. Ironic if she’d been on her tablet we would have gone without comment.

I can’t get the whole thing out of my head. My mum walked off so this upset my daughter as she gets separation anxiety. My mum walking off just added to the whole thing. I can’t discuss this with her as she believes this was my fault for interacting with them. I try to raise with her that I felt so alone and why as a parent she wouldn’t take my side automatically? I can’t get my head round that. She just can’t see my point of view and how awful I found that woman’s comment. She added that she never received any comments like that as we were always well behaved. Can I add at this point my daughter is the most lovely, well behaved little girl. She can be very cautious with new situations, she’s gentle with babies and younger kids, we’ve taken flights and car rides and people comment how good she is. Can I also say how worried I always am about being respectful. I litter pick, I always recycle, I always go back in to shops to pay if I’ve forgotten something in my trolley. I even cross the road in a respectful way 😂 I would never want to destroy something in nature, I plant my own flowers!

I get anxiety going out anyway but had to push myself yesterday as I didn’t want to have to hideaway(I probably would of if I was by myself) I’m just not sure how I forget about this, how do I parent with confidence when outside. How do I not combust with anxiety if my daughter wants to play in public again. How do I try and forget the tag of ‘bad parent’ has anyone been through anything similar?

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StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 16:21

Again, her back story was context to the general criticism & attack on her parenting by two clueless wankers.

And I think it is very significant that one of the first phrases out of his mouth was;

"I pay my taxes".

The strong implication was that the op does not.

The only reason one can imagine for that implication is that the op appeared to be a single Mum.

If the op had had a partner there, I wonder would he be saying I pay my taxes.

I also doubt the entire thing would have happened because Mr lager can would not have chanced aggression from another male. But was happy to bully a female. A female responsible for a very young child.

It's rather obvious what sort of person this guy was and what sort of views he holds, and that he has an ex to grind.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 16:26

You sound really aggressive and confrontational

She really doesn't.

I'd say few people would have a zen reaction to that pair.

They were also bullying. They picked who they'd take out their little ax to grind on.

It wouldn't have been a big burly bloke (or the teenagers climbing the war memorial).

(I'm actually lol'ing at thinking the op was aggressive & confrontational; you must lead a very sheltered life).

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 16:27

Mahanii · 31/03/2025 16:16

I can't believe the responses on here. When and how are people's feelings ever less important than a flower?!

I understand why you gave the backstory, because someone had just called you a bad parent after seeing 30 seconds of parenting, when you'd just spent hours, days, 3 years being an actual parent. All the things that you do every day are not the actions of a bad parent. A bad parent is one who neglects, abuses, goes AWOL. Presumably like the father of your child.

The best thing you can do for yourself as a lone parent is learn to ignore people's opinions. Choose who you confide in carefully. Appear confident in your parenting decisions. Otherwise people will spot weakness and use it against you.

That's a weird approach. Why encourage the OP to continue to go through life not taking responsibility for her child's behaviour and blaming other people for objecting to it. It's surely bad for the child not to learn that you can't trample and damage things that don't belong to you and that you can't get angry with people who are just pointing out that your child is being naughty and you don't seem to be able to stop her.

People seem really entitled these days. They seem to think they can do what they like and are outraged if picked up on it. It's weird. And that's why we can't have nice things any more in this country.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 16:28

encourage the OP to continue to go through life not taking responsibility for her child's behaviour and blaming other people for objecting to

What thread are you reading?

Catwoman8 · 31/03/2025 16:31

I wouldn't be taking serious parenting advice from a couple with no kids drinking cans of lager in the park .

They saw you as an easy target but you shouldn't rise to it and you should have handled the situation better. Removing yourself from the situation without having the argument would have been better for everyone.

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 16:32

The fact that she's so angry with other people getting annoyed about her child not being stopped from ruining the flowers.amd making various excuses for why it was unreasonable of them to do so.

bettydavieseyes · 31/03/2025 16:33

I haven't read the full thread but the post and page 1 and the this last one.

I'm amazed you are having such a hard time on here about a minor thing but it just shows how seeking validation for your parenting is a bad idea generally with a bunch if strangers. What I jumped on to say is that the comments of strangers is not the real problem OP. The problem is that your anxiety and self doubt have made you feel insecure and emotional thanks to 2 strangers who don't matter.

I want to say toughen up but I mean it in a kind way. People will always judge parents for everything. The minute your toddler does something wrong it's all your fault...it's crazy really. My kids have stood on flowers before, picked them when they shouldn't and a million things besides. If people were honest-so have theirs.

Next time someone makes a comment, try not to get involved. Just laugh it off-first your daughters sake. Try saying 'righto' or similar with a smile and carry on about your life. Try to develop a thick skin.

Your mum sounds unsupportive which is probably adding to your feelings of anxiety and lack of confidence.

3 year olds are not little robots who know all the rules and you are not a sergent in the army. You can't control everything. You did the right thing getting her out the flowerbed. That's it.

Megifer · 31/03/2025 16:35

Loving this thread. A 3 year old stepping on a flower that will regrow in about 4 weeks and the mum getting a bit pissy to 2 dickheads is definitely why we can't have nice things anymore 😂😂😂😂

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 16:35

other people getting annoyed about her child not being stopped from ruining the flowers

That's not what he was annoyed about.

Learn to read subtext.

And how come he is so very precious about two (?) flowers (accidentally tramped on by a tiny child) ....... but not at all concerned about the war memorial (purposefully disrespected & damage risked by young adults) ??

Huh?

Stephaneey · 31/03/2025 16:36

It’s kind of funny that I’m the most worried person about others property and having nice spaces for kids and adults and being respectful. I think this why I got so upset and the taxes comment, like I must be someone who doesn’t care but I’m the opposite. I slipped in perfect parenting for a second and with all the people it was difficult to pick her up without bumping into people and everyone was sort of centred to the flowers. If they’d just said ok she’s 3 when I said that but they made the taxes comments and about how no one else is doing that. She wasn’t even in the flowers when they said that either.

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Megifer · 31/03/2025 16:41

Maybe OP's mum is why we can't have nice things anymore?

PersonallyIdBringAPicnicakaALittleSassy · 31/03/2025 16:44

Butterflyfern · 31/03/2025 13:46

You were unreasonable to let your daughter go back and stand in the flowerbed again imo. Once, a mistake, but twice was disrespectful imo. If everyone did it, the park would look awful.

Sounds like you were both rude to each other in the altercation that followed. Not sure what having anxiety or having to prepare for the outing have to do with things tbh.

The anxiety and need for preparation is a sign of the hard work she has to put in to do things that other people might take for granted.

I don't think you did anything wrong. If it was me I'd have warned her kindly the first time that the flowers might not want to be stepped on, and pick her up the second time , bring her away, and firmly tell her not to do it.

The other people were rude. Try not to dwell on it. Taxes or no taxes. Public places are there partly for children to run around explore and be inspired. You were being a good mum.

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 16:48

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 16:35

other people getting annoyed about her child not being stopped from ruining the flowers

That's not what he was annoyed about.

Learn to read subtext.

And how come he is so very precious about two (?) flowers (accidentally tramped on by a tiny child) ....... but not at all concerned about the war memorial (purposefully disrespected & damage risked by young adults) ??

Huh?

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I disagree with your approach entirely.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/03/2025 16:50

OP has provided a lot of unnecessary information.
It was a busy place. OP should not have let her child go into the flower bed. The other people were wrong in how they spoke to OP. OP was wrong to further engage with them.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 16:53

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 16:48

I disagree with your approach entirely.

You can't even grasp what the guy's actual "problem" was (even though he said it out loud) so .....

Oldglasses · 31/03/2025 16:53

So she stood in a flowerbed twice? If so there are issues on both sides.
Yes, it's a faff packing for every outing, etc. - all parents have to do it - but it doesn't mean your child can stand on flowers. But the onlookers were also out of order having a right go. Just move on from it now.

hehehesorry · 31/03/2025 16:59

She sounds like a twat, the council are always ripping out perfectly good flowers and putting new ones in anyway. Even if they didn't, a stepped on flowerbed isn't the end of the world. The car ride to said event is worse than a few flowers getting smushed.

I had this happen when I was around 18 and a bit cheekier - some old woman who had a face like she'd sucked a lemon was walking along with her grandson taking up the whole path and I stepped on some crocuses (!!) to avoid barging into them and she got arsey about it, I said "Oh sorry, I didn't want to push you off the path haha" and she stood like she wanted a confrontation and started talking about how "they're for everyone and you ruined them"so I laughed and told her to f-off, not my proudest moment infront of a child but I hope it makes you feel better. I'm sure you're doing just fine, people are weird these days and on edge with COL and the state the country is in.

Make sure you take your little one out somewhere nice and naturey again to outweigh the bad experience, if you run into people like that just act like they're batshit and making you uncomfortable loudly so people start paying attention, they sound like bullies.

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:00

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 16:48

I disagree with your approach entirely.

You don't agree with challenging teenagers who are disrespecting and risking damaging a war memorial; while challenging frazzled single Mums with energetic tiny children about a couple of flowers (that will wilt shortly anyway)?

Well your priorities are ...... "interesting".

Do you believe single mothers don't pay their taxes too?

Cognacsoft · 31/03/2025 17:00

@Stephaneey

Your 3 year old accidentally stood on a daffodil and you didn’t make a performative scene of telling her off so two idiots decided to have a go, probably fuelled by the can of lager.
In future if someone has a go over your child shrug your shoulders and walk off.

They'll soon pick on someone else.

Organic82 · 31/03/2025 17:03

Not a chance you felt anxious or upset about this

patently clear that you are very confident in your parenting !

Organic82 · 31/03/2025 17:04

and I reckon your lairy response is what will “impact” your daughter 😆

Wolfpa · 31/03/2025 17:12

Your mistake was picking up the argument you should have left the conversation. They don’t know your full situation and you don’t know theirs. They could have been at the end of their tether with parents behaviour when it comes to their children and the environment. Over the weekend I saw a group of preteens throwing rubbish into the river while their parents sat and watched, I wasn’t brave enough to say anything outright but did have a louder than normal conversation about how disgusting it was that their parents didn’t care, I also had a bit of a chuckle when one fell in, his mother was not happy about placing a soaking wet child in her car

PersonallyIdBringAPicnicakaALittleSassy · 31/03/2025 17:14

Lazy? Don't you worry about how things will affect your children ever?

And all the posters on this thread are so well behaved! Isn't society lucky!

Thoughtsonstuff · 31/03/2025 17:15

StrawberryDream24 · 31/03/2025 17:00

You don't agree with challenging teenagers who are disrespecting and risking damaging a war memorial; while challenging frazzled single Mums with energetic tiny children about a couple of flowers (that will wilt shortly anyway)?

Well your priorities are ...... "interesting".

Do you believe single mothers don't pay their taxes too?

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It's not either/or