May Babies... part 6! (keep up you April Mums... pfft!)

[GeorginaA]

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lol cat; kiera gave you away anyways
i am feeling much better. dp went to get me something for flu! hot lemon always works - still going from cold to hot and back to cold though, but achey bones are better!

and agreed! babies are just an own entity!! will we ever understand them 100%?
ds had again 3 naps during the day!!
he is just so tired lately - can it be another growthspurt???
and again: red cheeks!!! hope we'll have an allright night.

cat: ds whinges too when he is tired and i put him down for a nap! eyerubs are his sign!!!! - then i know it's time! - i put him on his side, dummy in, muslin in his hands, mobile on, and darken the room ... still hard sometimes not to go to him when he whinges; but he never really cries and after longest 10min he is gone
maybe try to get her into a "nap routine" - it's hard in the beginning but they do learn fast

Georgina, when kiera was smaller, she was a very, very snacky baby and i had to desperatly try and distract her when she got peckish in an attempt to drag out feeds. I know it feels horrible, but it did work with kiera, and they get trained to wait a little longer.
It's the one thing i was very pleased i did.

Thing is, he always went quite happily between feeds until he got so distractable at feed times It's got into a bit of a viscious cycle.

Yeah it's tricky, and you can't always feed somewhere un-distractable can you. I guess the hungrier he is, the more he will drink though? I know what you mean about the vicious cycle, that's exactly the same as kiera was.

i feel dd is snacking a lot too. she's much more whingey than she used to be. think they are perhaps at that age when they want to do stuff but just arent able and get themselves frustrated.

i wish my dd would go to sleep on her own like your ds does, susi. how did you get him to do that? i spose it doesnt help that she wont have a dummy. she seems to have forgotten how to suck her thumb too. she will just cry and cry until i go in and feed her to sleep. hv also said to put her down awake so she learns to fall asleep by herself. and guess what, she woke after 45 f*ing minutes again tonight. AGAIN. tried a cuddle, nope. just searching for my boob the whole time. i did actually wake her gently when i put her down the first time too, obv didnt work though.

will try her with a little water next time. but i seriously doubt it'll work. she wont take a dummy nor a bottle just lately so i dunno. [exhausted emoticon]

on the + side. dd can sit for a minute or more!!!!!!!! she does eventually fall onto her side or face first into the carpet, but she is getting there.

Thanks Egypt. Im sure you will have a nice time no matter what you decide to do, Those are th tights we got. The ones from mothercare arent as good as they are really tight around the legs and not as soft.
How is everyone counting five months? I get confused are you counting it in weeks ie 21 weeks or 5 calender months.

I feel as if DD has gone back to being a newborn. Last night we were feeding every 3 hrs ie 10,1,3.30 and then 6.00. Gave her pear yesterday and today which she likes.
Wasnt very well yesterday. I had a headache all day and couldnt wait for DP to get home. He came home at 7pm. dd AND i WENT TO BED ABOUT 4PM AS i COULDNT STAY AWAKE ANY LONGER. I went to bed once dp came home but couldnt sleep and then was sick and my headache went at about 10pm. Its horrible being ill with DD to look after.
spots i often find dd curled up bum in the air in one corner. she has all the cot but seems to prefer laying against the bars. strange little creatures

Im also jelous of all you mums with babies that will go to sleep on their own. DD still likes to be cuddled to sleep, I supose at least in the night she will settle herself. Im sure she knows its night time and that me and dp cant be bothered to get up for her so she just thinks 'oh well may as well go to sleep on my own'
Ive given up on the nap thing. DD still sleeps for 40 mins in morning but the rest of the day its just cat naps. Her sign of tiredness is eye rubbing and hiding her face under my arm. Also now shes more alert she wont sleep in her pram as theres too much to look at.

I know that when dd wakes at night maybe i feed her without trying other options. I just look at the clock and think 3hrs thatll be a feed then and get out of bed automatically. I just think that if I dont feed her and she goes back to sleep she generally wakes 1hr after anyway, so I may as well have got up and fed her the first time iyswim.
Maybe when im back at work and dps getting up it may make her sleep better
Ok im off now to ebay to bid for a holloween fancy dress costume.
Bye
Speak to you all on sunday, Thats if Ive survived leaving DD for a whole night and day
Have a nice weekend.

Prufock .. what did you decide on the weaning front?

i can feel myself wavering

i guess you are all bf?? ds gets formula and solids. but he too gets very distracted lately!! head is constantly turning around and sometimes he even forgets about eating!!! but oh well, take away the bottle and he is back on track
with solids i just shove the spoon into his mouth and he chews it without realizing

agreed egypt: seems to me too that ds gets very frustrated! he wants to grab everything but can't get to it

re going to sleep: he never used to have a dummy, just lately ... and mostly he drops it anyways. how did i do it? hmm, i bet it was quite at the beginning when he was about 3wks old. i dedicated quite some time on it. i put him down and listened to his cry; just whinging or even babbling i didn't go back; as soon as he started crying i went back and picked him up, cuddled him and waited till he calmed down again and put him back to bed; eventually he would drop off; and it just got easier and easier! now i wait for one eyerub and a second one and the borrowing - off to bed he goes. he too does whinge or more likely babble nowadays, but as long as he isn't really crying i don't go in. even when he starts crying i wait a few minutes. mostly there is loud outburst for a minute or so and then he goes quiet and shortly after that he is gone. - we also have sort of a "nap routine" now. put him on his side, muslin in his hands, mobile on and halfdarken the room. if he does wake up after a short time i go back and stroke his head and shhhh him; put him back on his side and he goes back to sleep. - well, that's how it works for us.

wow egypt - can sit!!!! when i sit up ds he just lumps forward and rests on his big tummy

kbaby: i started counting in calendarmonths. so ds is 5months and 1 week - i never remember what he week he is in

hope you feel better soon. and you are quite right; hard work to look after lo when you don't feel well. got a flu myself
but dp was really nice today. as soon as he got up he mainly looked after ds, even went shopping! did the bath and put him to bed - and made me take some medicine

anyways, i am off to bed
talk to you all tomorrow

He had 4 mouthfuls of baby rice, hated it (little shudders every time he swallowed) and slept through. I figured it couldn't have been the solids so stopped, and he slept through again. And daytie feeding has settled down again. So we are holding off for now.

I know I'm tempting fate, but... we might be out the other side of the growth spurt...

ds2 went to bed at 7pm last night... woke at 10.30pm but I was busy so didn't get up there until 5 mins later by which point he'd fallen asleep again. He then didn't wake up until 6am and he then grumbled all the way through to 7am without getting too worked up. He then had a brilliant morning feed and is generally much happier today.

Unfortunately I kept waking up in the night with a killer sore throat so I don't feel quite as rested as I should do in the circumstances! Oh well, hopefully will get a repeat tonight (of the sleep... not the sore throat).

Now if I can just get the day naps sorted...

well done prufrock,that's good news.

night from hell. again. after her 45 min waking, she woke again about 8.30. i went to get her a bottle of water and then went to the loo before going in. she really was crying. then all of a sudden it stopped and she fell asleep! after i was saying how she never falls asleep on her own too. i think she reads this thread and tried to prove me wrong, so "DD NEVER SLEEPS THROUGH THE NIGHT". hope she can read capitals.

anyway, i went to bed at 10 when she had just woken again. had terrible stomach pains. think i am eating too much sweet potato. couldnt sleep well at all. she woke at 1, 4,5,8. i hardly slept. then this morning at 7.30 dh's alarm went off on his phone. i slung it at him in the bathroom and he was all so very apologetic. why doesnt he just turn the darn thing OFF.

well, what i was trying to say was, she wouldnt take any water at any point in the night. doesnt even seem to remember what a bottle IS. wont drop off any other way than me feeding her....unless i swing her in the carseat. should i be doing that do you think just to get her to sleep without feeding? (obv not when she clearly is needing a feed). but like you kbaby i just look at the clock and think, '3 hours, feed' but surely they dont need it now do they? oh i dont know.

dd was forced some apple for breakfast but clearly doesnt like it, far too tart. she did a bit of gurning. was mixed with babyrice to make it less tart but nope. shall have to try pear methinks.

i am calling 5 months 5 calendar months. dd is 20 weeks today. 5 months on 28th.

hope you are feeling better kbaby. have a relaxing w/e, you lucky thing

sitting pic is towards the end!

sorry about the quality - it's crap.

thats great news georgina, sounds like you are back on track. sorry posts crossed. i took soooo long to write mine.

Oh I hope so, I really do. Sending good sleep vibes in your direction too.

What a cute sitting up baby! She looks so proud of herself, doesn't she?! Clever girl!

yes she does! just moments before she fell slat on her face. tried her again today, but must have been a one off because she cant do it now!! mind you, she couldnt do it last week and all of a sudden she could sit for a minute or more yesterday. aren't lo's strange. curiouser and curiouser. ...............waiting for morning nap so i can join in .

allrighty, ds is having his nap!

wow georgina you lucky thing! the sleeping through of lo, not your sore throat. - fingers crossed!!!
seems there is a bug going around, i am sitting here with a scarf on

agreed prufrock: i don't think feeding solids change anything about sleeping pattern! as long as he is happy

utoh egypt!!! at least good news on the "not going to sleep on her own" front!! oh and how geourgous she is!!!!!! - dang, i can't wait for ds to sit up alone - but everytime i try he just ends up completly bend down and squeezing his big tummy

finally got my add. icecubetrays! now i can cut the lovely mango that is looking at me all week
egypt: ds had apple today too, with babyrice - he pulled faces all along - maybe a bit on the sour side for him? - and i also think he was still full from his bottle an hour earlier. - i will reduce the milkamount slightly and see if he takes more solids instead.
and re nightfeeds: i will feed him until he is 6months old. then i will start reducing it or even outwait it - although last 2 nights he never finished his nightbottle

and if your approach works "making lo read to sleep through" i might try too - fingers crossed!!!

Egypt I cant believe she is sitting already! DD sits for all of a second before falling flat on her face. Im going to have to post some new piccies yours looks so cute.
Last night DD woke at 8.30 so I fed her again and then woke her at 11 for a feed. She slept until 1 and I just put the dummy in and she went back off. She woke again then at 3.30 I fed her but she was wide awake after 2hrs of playing in her cot she started to cry and I had to bring her into bed. So much for me saying she will settle herself in the night. Oh and when she started to cry at 5am I nudged DP to go and see to her and his response was 'leave me sleep ive got work, you can have your recovery time tomorrow night' Thanks a blooming lot. I get to wake upto 4 times a night but arent I lucky I get a friday night of sleep. This morning he wanted me to get up at 7.30 to take his car to the garage and drop him at work. When he tried to wake me up I said 'sorry im having my recovery time after being awake all night, take your own bloody car'
I did eventually give in but think he got the message.

new photos

door bouncer pics

yes kbaby; it's just so exhausting!!! and somehow dp/h seem to think that looking after lo is no work at all! well, dp keeps telling me he knows it's difficult and a "fulltime" job but he doesn't act like! - but he promised that i can have sunday afternoon off to meet up with my friends - dang, i bet it will be weird; to go without ds

egypt: after seeing your dd sitting up i remembered i had one of them inflatable rubberrings to sit in. he was too young so far but i tried it today - he managed full 5 seconds upright sitting on his own!!! - but then he realised he could push against the inside wall of the ring and tried to stand up all the time and got frustrated - cheeky monkey

oh and re waking up shortly after you put her down: ds does that too; after only 40min napping he woke up; i first listen in if he'd settle back alone but his crying got louder and louder so i had a look. i tried to turn him once but he just turned back and laughed at me. so i took him with me, played 15min with him and eyerubbing again (i knew it ayways he was still tired!! - why don't they ever listen to their mumies ) - so back to bed, took him longer that time to go off but no major crying and eventually he was gone - nice quiet now - so it's not only your dd. i know it's hard to read all the signs and to be persistant but eventually we'll figure it out

didn't work kbaby
is it "public share" ???

dang are you all quick with your pics - have to update mine too now

Kbaby your door bouncers didn't open...Egypt, clever DD! obviously interrupted sleep pattern isn't impeding her motor skills... I have to say that I am still having the exact same problem with mine but admittedly not quite as frequent as your wakes: last night 12, 2.30 and 5.30. I still feel we are totally reliant on breasfeeding for so many things. Used to be so proud that DD went to sleep by herself, but now I think I'm kidding myself. I feed her for about half an hour right befor e she goes down, and she's so drowsy by that point that her being 'awake' is purely academic. Realise that putting her to bed without b/feed would be nigh on impossible. Also, to keep her from waking up completely at 5.30 we bring her into bed with us and she feeds off and on till 7.30.

She's just woken up from obscenely short nap. must off. dammit...

done

Lucas

just loading up a slideshow of all your pics susi! go to public share kbaby. wanna see!

dd did manage to sit again for a bit today. can't leave her though, she buggers over pretty quickly sometimes. she actually did it first time yesterday with her nappy off. think the lack of bulk between her legs helped her to stop falling backwards iyswim.

she's in her door bouncer right now in front of me. bless. she loves it. it's a godsend - thank you mil!! (did you see what i just said!?!!?). i'm scared the architrave (sp) is going to fall off though! it's creaking away. eeek

well, i was a cruel but tired and desperate mummy this morning. fed her and put her down for morning nap at 10. she cried. left her for 10 mins. went in and sat her up. she sicked a bit. laid her down. she cried. thought i'd give her another 10 and by about 5 mins her cries were becoming shorter than the breaks in between, so i left her. within another minute she was asleep. now i would call this controlled crying and thankfully it didnt last longer than 20 mins. wasnt too bad at all. i just put my head under the pillow. they say you shouldnt do it in the day, but why? i feel i can cope with it in the day and surely it gives them the same message? that bed is time to sleep? no messing. dont know if i can be consistent with it at night though. may just try tonight. hmmm not nice

susi, he's adorable!!!!!

that reminds me, libb, i havent seen your movie. did you get my email? think there's something wrong with it.

whilst we're on the subject!

Damn, I really need to find our door bouncer in the loft. Your baby looks so cute in it! Suzi - I can't see your photo it says not logged in

BTW, does it still count as not weaning if, after loading up the slow cooker this morning my hands were reeking of onions and garlic. Ds2 dived for them and started manically sucking my fingers

Garlic fumes won't harm him, will it?!