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is this abuse?

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plantlife · 06/09/2019 22:05

A while ago DP was shouting very loudly in an argument. I was begging him to stop shouting, it was so loud all the neighbours could hear, calling me a cunt and useless and other horrible things.

He then held me down, cupped his hands to my ear, put his mouth on it and shouted at top volume into it. This was over a year ago. He's been making an effort with me but ever since then I've had on off pain (mild) and feel more sensitive to noise. It could be psychological but he gets angry if I ask him to speak less loudly. I can't cope with maybe even normal speaking volume (but actually he speaks quite loudly). I know it's a pain but he knows why I feel sensitive. I don't know if I'm being unfair on him, he feels he can't speak at a suitable volume for me. I don't complain, I just sometimes ask if he wouldn't mind lowering the volume, I tell him know it's annoying but hope he understands.

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plantlife · 17/10/2019 21:57

Ok I'm sorry. I've got to stop posting. I think I've asked before but I can't help worrying.

In the worse case, if I'm not out by tomorrow evening and if the police came, what if they do believe him? The neighbours might have been evidence, witnesses, but tonight was like loads of times, him shouting I self harm and I'm mad and he's never laid a finger on me. I made it worse but shouting and screaming. I think they've heard him threaten me (and I think maybe heard him hit me) but I'm not sure.

Also if I leave, he might go to the police and say it's all me. I'm probably panicking but that's why I'm worried about proof. I think I am mad though because whenever I think maybe I do have proof, I worry he'll kill himself. I need to shut up - here and in real life, and either accept things as they are and adjust my behaviour or leave. I know.

Sorry again. I need to calm down and take action, get myself out of this, instead of moaning on here. I know. I'll try to make more progress tomorrow.

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downbutnotout2018 · 17/10/2019 21:59

You sound so broken. What does this emotional cripple of a man bring to your life? Nothing but aggro. Don't worry about proving anything. First try to make a secret plan. But be careful as getting away is the most difficult but.

ParkLife123 · 17/10/2019 22:01

WTF. Please leave him. Thankfully he is not your “D”H and yes this is 110% abuse.

Whatisthisfuckery · 17/10/2019 22:53

@Plantlife, love, you’re going to have to get it together and get out. What in the living fuck are you staying for?

Somebody screaming out the window ‘she did it all herself blah blah blah’ looks unhinged, that would definitely have me on the phone to the police, but I don’t think that’s relevant. You’ve got two choices. 1, get on the blower tomorrow, call everywhere you can and find a way to get the fuck out, or 2, wait for him to come back pissed and beat the shit out of you again.

It’s not like you’ve even got anything to hang around for. The man is a dangerous psycho. I’m sorry love but you’re going have to step up and take charge. No more pussy footing about. You know what’s coming and you know it’s not going to get any better. It really is big girl pants time now. It’s not like you’ve got anything left to lose.

Wolfiefan · 17/10/2019 23:34

He can go to the police and say whatever he likes. You’re not committing a crime by leaving him.
Nothing you do will stop him being abusive. You can’t make this ok. You can’t change him. The only way to make things better is to leave.
I don’t know what your medical condition is but I can guarantee it won’t be improved by living with him.

cakeandchampagne · 17/10/2019 23:44

Have you put a few important things in a backpack or bag yet? Flowers

Whatisthisfuckery · 18/10/2019 00:43

Having been there myself, admittedly with a man who was low level violent but not very often, I already know you’re minimising what he did. He kicked me but not very hard = he kicked me so hard that my leg went from under me, or he kicked me and hit me, or any other iteration of being assaulted beyond a little kick.

Plantlife When are you going to stop minimising what he’s doing to you? You know this isn’t right. What would happen if he did what he did to you tonight to his boss, or some random person in the street? Think about that. Do you think they’d minimise it and blame themselves for making him angry. I sure as fuck wouldn’t be blaming myself if some random bloke in the street ‘kicked me but not very hard,’ but hard enough to really fucking hurt, even if I really, really pissed him off. Kicking someone you live with is not any better. I’d get put away if I kicked my DS, who is currently smaller and weaker than me and is who I live with.

This will not end. It won’t end until you take control and find a way to get yourself out of there.

What are you going to do if he pushes it too far? What will you do if he seriously hurts you and won’t get an ambulance and leaves you bleeding on the floor? Do you honestly think he’ll be worrying about getting you medical attention if he really hurts you? Do you really think he thinks the police will believe him if he beats you bleeding and unconscious then tells them you did it to yourself? You already know the answer to that one, but what you don’t yet realise is that it won’t stop him. If you really want to keep him out of prison then you’d be doing him a favour by getting away from him, because men like him aren’t capable of stopping on their own.

You don’t need to be asking whether you think he’ll kill you, you need to be asking yourself why in god’s name you’re even thinking that? What about if he doesn’t kill you, he just hurts you bad enough to ruin the rest of your life even if you do get out?

Plantlife, please give yourself a shake. Do you want him to keep hurting you until you’re so physically fucked that you have no decent chance of a good life anyway, or wait until he does go too far and kill you, or do you want anything other than that? If the answer is the latter then you need to grab what’s left of your life and take control of it.

I’m sorry to sound harsh, and I’ve had a fucking awful day so I’m probably in a much worse mood than usual, and for that I’m sorry, but at this rate the only white knight coming to get you is one driving an ambulance, if you’re lucky. If you don’t fancy that then you can change that outcome, but to do that you have to help yourself.

I’m sorry to say this but by minimising his behaviour you’re not doing anyone any good. Blokes beating up their female partners is too fucking usual, a woman dyes every three days because of it; hundreds and maybe thousands of women a week are seriously injured by it; scores, possibly hundreds of women a week try to kill themselves because of it. Would you dream of telling the families of those 2.7 dead women each week that he only did it because she made him angry, and she should have learned how to make him less angry? Of course you wouldn’t, so why would you expect any of us to agree with you when you say it about you? It’s not acceptable for any one of those poor women and you do nobody any favours by accepting it for yourself, least of all yourself.

plantlife · 18/10/2019 00:52

It sounds like excuses but I genuinely can't physically leave. I'm thinking maybe in a cab. It could cost hundreds if I go far. I could use my overdraft. I don't want to say my health condition in case someone like an old friend recognises me. Loads of general doctors including hospital don't seem to know much. It's rare to be this bad. If I leave before I get all my medication, I could have permanent damage, permanent disability. Maybe I'm panicking because the old GP refused to listen to me or read my notes. If I leave and go to a new hospital, they're see my updated notes.

I was in so much pain without the medication and housebound but doctors kept refusing to believe me. When it first got this bad, same thing until I went privately. I'm terrified I won't be believed and left in pain if I move somewhere.

If the police arrest him, he'll be released even if charged. If he gets drunk and angry enough, I think he'd be really dangerous.

I'll try to find somewhere tomorrow or at least pack an emergency bag (I had one but I put everything back).

I understand you all can't keep being ignored, me ignoring your advice. I'll try not to post again until better news. Please don't think I'm a horrible person for maybe risking staying until I get all my medication. I truly would prefer a temporary bearing to permanent damage. I'm sorry. I promise I'll try tomorrow.

My GP appointment is tomorrow so I'll speak to them about my fears.

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SimplySteveRedux · 18/10/2019 00:58

You should read Susan Forward's "Men Who Hate Women, and the Women Who Love Them".

plantlife · 18/10/2019 01:03

I'm so sorry. Whatisthisfuckery. I didn't see your post before my last one

I'm so sorry. Really sorry. Please please don't worry. Please, I'm sorry, you've been beyond kind, given me support, more support than I need

I promise I'm going to something. I promise. Please believe me, if I don't get the rest of my medication, it is permanent damage.

I think if I screamed for help the neighbours would call the police. But you're right, I shouldn't rely on it.

But I should trust the new gp. They read my notes, they believed me, they can help me get it even if I leave.

I'll stick to my appointment tomorrow and I guess they'll help me. It's terrifying to think of going through with anything but I promise I'm going to. Ideally I'd wait until next week but I'll speak the the GP and take it from there.

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Wolfiefan · 18/10/2019 07:38

If you’re that unwell then why not go to hospital?

Whatisthisfuckery · 18/10/2019 08:38

That is a good idea. Get a cab to a&e, tell them you’re in danger and you aren’t shifting because your home is not safe, and if you return you’ll be beaten black and blue again.

Failing that talk to your GP. It’s unlikely you GP will be able to do much, but you can forewarn them that you have to get out, one way or the other, but you desperately need those meds. Call every helpline and refuge you can and tell them you’re not safe, that he beat you last night and that he’s going out drinking tonight and that when he gets back he’ll more than likely do it again. You need to spell it out to them, bloody make them listen. I know it’s scary, but so is waiting in for a bloke who’ll more than likely bash you about. If you have to spend money getting places then just do it. It’s only money, there’ll be a way to get more of that. Money is less important than being safe, and money is no good to you if you’re seriously hurt or dead.

Don’t go away, keep posting on here. You do not have more support than you need, you have far, far less support than you need.

I have some really shitty things to do today myself today which I’d rather hide from and cry, so I’ll do you a deal, I’ll try to sort my shit out and you try your best to make inroads into sorting yours.

Good luck, and good luck to me as well. I also find myself dumped in the shit, but unlike you I know I can and will sort it out. You too will have that faith in yourself one day, but you need to get that ball rolling today.

Wolfiefan · 18/10/2019 09:32

@whatisthisfuckery good luck with your shit.
Good wishes and strength to you and OP. X

cakeandchampagne · 18/10/2019 11:06

@plantlife You physically can’t leave & you have untreated/unresolved medical problems- so pack a few things & call an ambulance to get you to the hospital. Tell them you are being abused, need medical help, & cannot return to your home. They will help you sort things.

@Whatisthisfuckery Thinking of you.

Sear86 · 18/10/2019 11:14

Please follow the advice on here and leave, it will only get worse with this guy.

You will be able to find work and manage on benefits. You need to do this for yourself, before there are any children to consider. Flowers

plantlife · 18/10/2019 15:28

I'm sorry. Please, I really really hope you get through your shitty stuff, Whatisfuckery. I'm so sorry you have to go through shit too. I really really am. I owe it to you to follow your example and be as strong as you are. I so hope you get through it all.

I didn't want to post unless I'd left, I feel too bad to let you all down. But I thought I owed it to thank you and acknowledge your posts.

Please believe me. I have a new plan. I'm not putting things off anymore. I just have to not lose my nerve. I won't say here just in case but I promise you that although I'm unlikely to leave today, I've made inroads. I've spent the past few hours on the phone. I have a day in mind but but scared to say here. I promise you I've been speaking to people and making plans today. I'll be careful this evening. I promise you, I'll call the police if any real danger.

Setback again. My regular medication hasn't come through to the pharmacy but I have a call arranged to sort that.

I truly have made progress today. I haven't left but I promise you I've made more progress, spoken to people, and have a clear plan getting together. I hope you understand me not going today.

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Wolfiefan · 18/10/2019 16:05

You have made progress. You should be so proud of yourself. You’re strong and getting stronger.

plantlife · 18/10/2019 16:35

Thank you so much, Wolfiefan. I know I'm going to waver. I feel so torn emotionally but I'm determined to keep going with the plan. I know you've all said to do it for me but I want to also pay back all your kindness so that motivates me. I promise I'm progressing quite well actually. I hope I haven't jinxed it by saying that. Everyone I spoke to today was actually so nice and understanding. Thank you again.

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Whatisthisfuckery · 18/10/2019 16:52

Well done @Plantlife. It sounds like you’ve pushed yourself to do more today than you have for a long time. You should be really proud of yourself.

No don’t tell us, don’t jinx it. Stay in touch though, we’ll be here to help you through your wobbles and fist bump when you inch forward, or to just chat to for reassurance or something to do.

I think I’m on top of my stuff, for now. It’s court stuff to do with my divorce and everyone who can possibly fuck up is doing so, plus he’s being a dirty bastard and playing shady every chance he gets. I’ve got his number though, and I have no intention of letting him off the hook.

Please stay safe tonight, and please call for help if he starts.

Well done for doing so well today. There’s that inner power you didn’t know you had.

cakeandchampagne · 18/10/2019 17:00

Well done making some calls & planning. Please call the police if he is a problem at all tonight.

downbutnotout2018 · 18/10/2019 17:25

I think your partner has trained you to think everything is your fault. You say sorry an awful lot. Why is this? It can only be the way you view the world based on how he treats you. With your condition you are extra vulnerable and your p god damn knows that. Tell your gp everything tomorrow.

Wolfiefan · 18/10/2019 18:53

You’re doing great. You so deserve to be well and happy.

plantlife · 18/10/2019 19:36

Thank you all so much. I want to leave. I don't know if I can post much this weekend. I wanted to thank you all now in case it's hard to post here.

I'm glad you're getting your stuff sorted Whatisthisfuckery. You sound so strong. I'm so sorry you have to deal with it all especially so many years later.

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Twillow · 18/10/2019 20:07

Hi Plantlife. I'm so pleased that you have been able to make some calls, you sound a different person for it and quite determined now that you are not going to tolerate a life like this for too long! Everyone on here is your friend by now and rooting for you, you know that - no-one has disbelieved you or doun=bted you and that should count for a lot considering some of the trolls on MN at times...

Regarding the calling out the window that you're self-harming: self-harming does not get you sectioned. Self-harming is a method that many people in great emotional pain use to try to find a release. It does not mean that the person is mentally ill. Even if you were doing that, it would not be seen as anything other than you needing support. So take that worry away please! I'll tell you this because my own child was self-harming at one point: I went straight to the school and the doctor and told them, and (sadly) they had heard it many many times before, told me matter-of-factly to teach her how to clean the wounds up and asked if she wanted to see a counsellor. No shock horror, no sectioning!

plantlife · 20/10/2019 22:27

I just thought I'd let you know I've got through the weekend. It's been mostly ok. He's being really nice again. I'm a bit jumpy about posting right now though but wanted to let you know it's all ok. I'm working on things, I promise.

Twillow, I'm so sorry your daughter was selfharming. I so hope she's doing ok and the counselling helped/is helping? It must be so hard being the parent in that situation.

Thank you you again to all of you for all the wonderful support and for letting me just ramble here.

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