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We have been let down by the justice system. [**Edited by MNHQ, thread may be triggering**]

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OpiesOldLady · 22/10/2014 20:41

I need to get this out. Some of you will recognise the details, I posted previously under a different name, but tbh I'm sick of hiding now, and being ashamed.

My son was raped and sexually abused by my step son. He also abused my daughter. He was found guilty of two counts of rape and four counts of sexual abuse. We were led to believe that the judge would send him to crown court for sentencing and a custodial sentence would be imposed.

Today he was give a two year rehabilitation order and has been placed on the sex offenders register for five years. He has basically gotten away with a slap on the wrists.

I feel so incredibly let down. My babies had to give evidence against him, he put them through that... and yet he gets to go home tonight, free.

He will get counselling and all manner of professional help, whilst I am having to fight tooth and nail to access some proper support for my children. They are on a waiting list for intensive therapy, but that could take months. In the meantime, I have to watch as my son fades away before my eyes, on the verge of a nervous breakdown. And this is justice?

I want to appeal his sentence as I think it's far too lenient, but I don't know if i'll be allowed to, I'm waiting to hear back from the Attourney Generals office.

I am swinging between being so furious, devastated and wanting to kill him with my bare hands. How could he do this and just get away with it?

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Spadequeen · 22/10/2014 20:46

Do t have any advice I'm afraid but couldn't read your post without replying.

What a hideous thing for you all to go through, that sentence doesn't seem right at all, or the lack of support and help for your dc. I hope you can get something sorted out soon

theHowlatWooooooCorner · 22/10/2014 20:51

That's shocking! I really hope that the sentence is reviewed.
I wish I could offer some words of help for you and your children. I presume you are speaking to agencies such as victim support, etc?
I hope you are being supported in RL.

nachohousekeeper · 22/10/2014 20:53

How horrible for you all to go through that ordeal and then watch him walk away with his freedom.

I am sorry you and your children are going through this. It's all wrong that you are having to fight for support.

Hugs and strength to you all.

CuddlesAndShit · 22/10/2014 20:55

Oh jesus, that's appalling.

You poor things. How are you all holding up? Thanks

OpiesOldLady · 22/10/2014 20:59

I'm plodding on. I have to. But the children... they struggle. School have been wonderful and so supportive, but it will never ever be how it was, how could it be? My little boy is now an aged man. How can I tell him this news? I've always taught him that the bad men go to prison. Sad

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OpiesOldLady · 22/10/2014 21:02

Yes, he is 15 now. It was tried at the youth court at the magistrates. Because of this I'm not sure if I will be able to appeal. I've had conflicting information that you can only appeal a sentence if it's passed down from a crown court.

I'm sorry that you have to go through this too, Empire

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MisForMumNotMaid · 22/10/2014 21:05

I don't have a clue what to say other than as a part of this society that we're all in, I'm sorry for your pain and suffering and that of those you love.

Are you in the UK? If so has anyone talked to you about [[https://www.gov.uk/criminal-injuries-compensation-a-guide Criminal
Injuries Compensation]] now that he's been found guilty? I don't know much about it but wondered if it could help with getting private counselling support for you all.

MyEmpireOfDirt · 22/10/2014 21:07

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OpiesOldLady · 22/10/2014 21:14

No, I haven't claimed, but I have been advised to. I have started to fill in the form. From my son's disclosure to today, it's taken a year. It's been an incredibly long year.

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KissMyFatArse · 22/10/2014 21:16

On god I am devastated for you all. How horrific for your son and daughter, and obviously you.

I feel sick reading that sentence. Appalled. Please, if you have any fight left in you, appeal it. Outrageous.

InfinitySeven · 22/10/2014 21:19

I'm fairly sure that you can appeal in the youth court, unless the case has any special restrictions.

I'd speak to your legal team about likely outcomes, and the process. It may involve the case being moved.

I'm so sorry.

OpiesOldLady · 22/10/2014 21:20

Oh I intend to, it's the least I can do for my children.

I just can't get my head around it though. What the fuck would he have to have done to get a custodial sentence?

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MisForMumNotMaid · 22/10/2014 21:22

I believe victim support can help talk you through the form.

I started filling it in about a year after advised and found it dug up to much then (my story directly affected me then DH. The children only indirectly, so I cannot imagine the pain of it being your children who were the victims).

Time has gone by were I've buried things and now we're resettled in a new area and I feel that I have the strength to tackle things I'm a year over the deadline.

Money can't undo anything but if it could help with counselling or with buying you time by taking leave from work etc to be able to do what ever it is you feel you need to, then maybe if you can muster the strength to fill in the forms it could help the path forwards.

SavoyCabbage · 22/10/2014 21:23

I've been let down by the system too and it was such a shock. I think when you have little to do with the law and the police you sort of hold them in high regard.

You think that they are there to help you and that because you are the victim that everyone will believe you and not the perpetrators.

"Go and tell a policeman" we are taught and we teach our dc.

In your case you have been believed and I would take some comfort in that. I have admiration for you for fighting through this for a year. You must be a very strong woman.

Excitedforxmas · 22/10/2014 21:24

No advice what so ever but your news is just horrific. Your poor children and you as a mum too should never have to go through that x

PacificDogwood · 22/10/2014 21:24

Opies, I think I remember your previous posts about these horrific crimes against your children. I am sorry about the outcome.

I have no advice, just admiration for your strength and persistence and how you have been there for your DC.

I fear this is a reflection of the wider issue about how sexual assault/rape is under punished so often AngrySad

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LaurieFairyCake · 22/10/2014 21:24

He's too young for prison at 15 so you haven't told your son a lie - it might be better to tell him that his brother will get the help that he needs to stop doing such awful things.

You need a better approach and some professional help for this. It's awful for all of you - what does your DH think about his son doing this ?

queenofthepirates · 22/10/2014 21:28

Can you contact your MP? I don't know the ins and outs of this case but I would personally rather this man was removed from society. I think you need someone with some clout to stand your corner whilst you all heal. My heart goes out to you.

OpiesOldLady · 22/10/2014 21:31

Everyone, including the police and social services expected him to get a custodial sentence. The police officer actually said to me today that it's results like this that makes her wonder why the hell she's doing her job.

DH and I are no longer together. The strain of this has been too much. He is appauled and disgusted and wants nothing more to do with his son.

TBH, 'professional' help has been very much lacking through all of this. When my son told me that he wanted to die because then he wouldn't hurt anymore, I rang our social worker for help. I'm still waiting for her to call back. Thankfully I managed to find some help for him but they are woefully overstretched and he's lucky if he gets 50 mins of counselling every six weeks. It's simply not enough.

I intend to get a non molestation order out against my step son, and his mother, but that will bring scant comfort.

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LaurieFairyCake · 22/10/2014 21:33

The compensation should help to pay for weekly therapy which they'll both need.

Sorry to hear you and your DH have split up though.

How old was your step son when he committed the crimes? I'm guessing that had a reflection on why no juvenile custody?

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PacificDogwood · 22/10/2014 21:35

Can the NSPCC help?
Rape Crisis?
The Survivors' Trust?
Some resources from the Star Project

Just a few ideas - I have no experience whether they can be of any use in your very special circumstances.

I am so sorry to hear your relationship has broken down over this - so many do Sad

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