'd'ya ever wonder how many times you will be asked if they are twins?'

[MarsLady]

C'mon girls. Got bored of waiting and started the new thread!

Morning all!

It's the "You have got your hands full" comments that really annoy me - I can't say why - maybe its the way people look from one to another and look slightly paniced! However most of the time they are great fun and you get experiences that you would never get if you just had singletons - there is something quite special about your eldest child cuddling their 2 babies!
The hardest thing I have found (dd1 is 3.6 and dts are 18 months) is that things don't get easier with 2 - like they did with 1. It is still hard work getting them all out of the house on my own and I have 3 chldren walking in opposite directions when I brave going out to the park!

just taken photo of dts asleep sharing the cot and chucked it on my profile!!!!

Going slightly off topic (or would it be on topic?), my dtds got screamed at the other day

A stupid bloke outside our shopping centre shrieked 'GINGER TWINS' at them
I was sooo annoyed i just carried on walking and said loudly 'oh just ignore him dears he's clearly a nutter'.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. Really you'd think after 10 years the novelty would wear off for people!

GB - they are gorgeous! I hope they weren't upset.

I spent a lovley morning yesterday with a mum and her g/b twins. Sometimes it is just so nice to go out with fellow mums of twins who accept twins as NORMAL! I think it's ncie for the dts to see others too.

We then went to legoland, and dt2 was chasing dt1 around trying to pull his nappy around. DT1 was giggling and shouting 'no bum!' The embarassement!

I'm enjoying the freedom again, dd and ds1 are in holiday club this week, it's like having them back at school.

I got in a strop when one too many people told me it must be a lot of work. Dh took a more positive view point of it saying that they say it out of admiration and that I should take it as a compliment. It seemed to make sense at the time but I'm not sure now !

Mommalove I prepared myself for the worst and it hasn't been nearly as bad as I expected it to be.

FG, hope you are on the mend.
i've read the how to talk book. Its a bit american but really makes you think about how you talk ot your children and the whole point about respect is (I think) the most obvious mistake that people make when trying to communicate with children.

Ds1 went off to nursery thinking he was spiderman this morning, that was after he covered various parts of the living room in sellotape (spidersweb obviously) (I've got no idea how he knows anything about spiderman but....), dt1 is teething badly, won't drink, is even refusing my lovely norks and had almost a dry nappy this morning (I'm worrying). Dt2 spent the morning wrestling with an octopus and trying to eat its eyes out. All normal here in Leo's mad house !

Off to lunch today with work colleagues, problem - I thought we would be able to eat outside but its p!ssing down and restaurants close enough to the office tend to be a bit overcrowded and too cosy to get in a double buggy at lunchtime!

GB sharing your !

GB - one of my DTs (boy) is also ginger and we went to a christening the other day - outside the church some kid who looked about ten shouted "Is it because I is a ginner" at him.......I went ballistic, I know I shouldnt but FFS the kid is 2 years old. I marched over and had aright go, very unlike me........

Sorry, just crashing in, Leo, have found you!! We on the March thread have been wondering where you are!! Do pop over some time and update us!!

Oooggs, your children are precious! I have a friend whose b/g DTs are Erin & Jack, too!

Mossy ! I'll be right over!

what is the ginger thing about????? ds1 looked ginger for a little while and the dts have kind of gingerish eyebrow and I am hoping it will spread upwards to their hair. Ginger is gorgeous.

Having a nightmarish time with feeding at the moment. Both are now teething. don't want my milk (breast or bottle), I've tried formula to check if there is something wrong with my milk they don't want that either. started solids a couple of weeks ago and took sweet potato for lunch today, they wouldn't eat it so tried breastfeeding them in sweaty, humid restaurant (all this in front of work colleges (SP?)), fussed and refused (is there nothing more humiliating than a baby fussing at your breast in public!.... yes when it happens in front of work collegues!). They did take some water. Did a quick whizz around a shop to get some stuff for ds1, went for a coffee, same story, again with refusing to feed from me. This evening they have had some apple puree with millet porridge (made with milk so at least they have had a bit), they wouldn't breastfeed again tonight at the night feed but did drink water. I feel as if everything is going wrong. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars..... !

pristine - how weird - same names?????? Is it me ?????

Remind me how old the gorgeous boys are Leo!

I keep their photo in my organised mum diary!

You can always email me to ask me anything... or text. Which reminds me... must check that email inbox!

GB... jealousy makes people rude! Your DTs are GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm better. Felt truly awful and I still feel weak and sore but definitely better. AND, I have been taking a hard stance with both girls and night time wakings and last night ALL 3 OF MY CHILDREN SLEPT ALL NIGHT!!!!!! I think that is the real reason I feel smiley today

HM, yup, we are twins You too are a hideous freak . Shouting at anyone is communication. I have shouted at my babies. I'm not happy about it, I cried about it. Felt shit about it. Your baby wont remember. You feel crap though. When I get to the point where I realise I am at my wits end I try to change something to help me feel I'm in the driving seat again. I bought the books and TBH 2 of them are crap but the one about Talking So Your Kids Listen (Leo mentioned it too), is very American but is actually quite good. Its helped me feel different. I have been able to tell DT1 "beds are for sleeping in" at 3am instead of "will you get back into bed and stay there, stop crying or you'll wake the whole house, if you don't stop I'm shutting the door tightly, right thats it the glow night light is going off too, I don't care that you can't see anything thats the bloody point" .....and ad lib until an hour has passed

Its just finding the right thing to make you feel like you still have yourself in there. Keep going. Remember, its two different things being (1) worn out, exhausted, at your wits end and feeling like life is on top of you and (2) being really low, with the word I struggle to say and type since I try to ignore that it bites me sometimes.......depression. One you can drag yourself out of, the other needs more support. I'm beginning to understand and recognise the difference within myself.

Leo, the book is helping, I'm giving full attention with my face and eyes. Its always stuff you know but you need reminded of again and again. Tell us more about the feeding.......if Mars hasn't sorted you out that is. Are they making a choice of wanting more solids? Could they be full? Are they taking water? What is your feeding day like?

Kelly, instantly. She started ABs on the Friday and was hugely worse the next morning. I'm being overly sensitive, ignore me. Aw Kelly, you and children and doctors . Hope you all stay safe on holiday

Momma, it is a real PITA isn't it. Loads of people are negative and yet they don't know how you are going to feel or what your two gorgeous bundles are going to be like. On the days I struggled (after they were born) I hated hearing the "hands full" comment. I hated hearing "I don't know how you cope", I wanted to scream "I BLOODY HAVE TO THATS HOW" or "I'M NOT" and on the days I moved mountains and felt very proud and happy with my family and my achievement, these people brought me down. Thats why my best support in the middle of it all has been my friends on here. Multiple mums get it. They get it all.

And Godzilla, I don't know how you kept your cool, well done. Ignorant arsehole. I might have been tempted to shout "oh look, thick bastard" and LMAO!!! I adore red hair. And in adults its very sexy.

Mars, howdy. Hullo a'body else.

glad you better fg! I can feel the energy from down here.

dt2 seems fine with ABs thank God, only thing it has done to him is given him the runs! He's on the mend now.

I am kinda dreading the holiday with him tbh, spain doesnt have the same safety awareness as the UK. With his lemming tendancies I think I'm going to be tying him to me when we head up any mountains.

oh and btw I looked that illness up, and apparently it 1 in a million cases a year or something, absolutely unbelievable that your poor dd got it.

Kelly, we do like to be unusual BTW, why are you thinking of heading up mountains on holiday? Holiday = lying back as often as possible and (a) sunbathing (b) drinking much liquids (c) add own words as appropriate pre watershed.

Or is that just me?

nope, Im the freak - my holidays involve rushing about like a lunatic, up mountains, round castles, in caves, musuems, water parks, theme parks, zoos, aquariums, etc!

I really don't get the idea of flying miles to sit on a beach for a week or two at all. I might as well sit in the garden! We'll do a couple of days at the beach maybe, but it isnt very relaxing since the boys seem to want to swim the med to africa.

I will manage the innapropriate amounts of liquids at some point though.

kelly, sitting in your garden is NOT the same as sitting in the sun on hols! the washing doesnt need doing, the cleaning doesn;t need doing, its warmer on hols (especially this year!). Holidays for relaxing and coming back LESS stressed than when u went out.

I will be drinking AT LEAST 14 bottles of rose in my week in portugal, and having AT LEAST 2 hours reading time by the pool A DAY!

Oh don't you start again!

Who will be watching yours while you sit by the pool?

And on my hols, cleaning, laundy and a bit of cooking do still need doing unfortunately! We can't all keep going for a fortnight without it.

MIL will be watching mine

Meeely, do you mean to say you are having a child free holiday?

Kelly, I'll get a cardboard box, you get the packaging tape

tape check, bubble wrap check, our we posting ourselves or our dts? I reckon we should land all the dts on her!

Chopster - I think my girls have been having climbing lessons from your boys - my mum found them both sitting in the middle of the dining room table today

FG - I have been thinking about getting that book for a while - dd1 is quite hard work at the moment and I keep finding myself shouting at her...I will have to order it.

I had forgotten about "I don't know how you cope" comments, I usually say "No nor do I" - it shuts most people up!

I hope that box is big enough for my dts too!