'd'ya ever wonder how many times you will be asked if they are twins?'

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C'mon girls. Got bored of waiting and started the new thread!

yes refitting bathroom

going to bed, emotionally drained

G'night...don't have nightmares

Night Meely.

Leo... I've read Stephen Biddulph's Raising Boys and really enjoyed it. Lots makes sense. Try to ignore what a dreadful abusive parent you are for using nurseries. Other than that... brilliant book!

Hi ooogs. DT1 has only just gone to sleep. I put them to bed at 7.30pm. Gah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had such a wonderful day today. Went to visit an MNer and the sun was shining........ lovely!

Momma........... and breathe.................

leo, yep, freeze away.

I've been cooking all afternoon, last big batch of cooking before hols! Made potato and okra curry, that courgette thing below, dhal curry, muthia (indian style dumplings in gravy) and rice, and I've now collapsed on the sofa. Done most of my packing now too, so I'm very pleased with myself.

not seen diy sos in aages, I keep looking at my blue kitchen and itching to get the paint out.

I'm so not showing u mine now! Yours looks so perfect, mine was a huge hotpotch of stretch marks.

Mommalove! Your name conjures in my mind a big black lady in her early forties surrounded by hoards of children - and look at you! You are sooooo glamorous and young (said by a fellow 28 year old ) And I can't post my pregnant belly on here after seeing yours, its the most beautiful smooth un-marked tummy ever. And although I am two weeks behind you and am only carrying one, I'm pretty sure I'm the same size as you.

Grrrrrr...........

Most definately veggie.

I made this one without the beans, but this one is good too.

The trick is to keep the gravy really watery, while simmering and make the muthia quite small, about the size of radishes, otherwise they wont cook or will stick.

The dough doesnt have to be totally smooth, it can be a bit crumbly in texture, and if you scrape in all the left over bits into the gravu too, it adds flavour.

Good luck!

Poor dt2 has impetigo! It got worse yesterday so I ended up taking him to GP out of hours for ABs. Quite sad for him, it's the first time any of my four have ever needed ABs.

Oh and I was a complete numpy - I was so tired by the tiem had dragged him to GPs then right across town to the only open pharmacy, that I managed to leave the medicine in the trolley and come home without it!!
Luckily it was still there when I got back

anyone heard of this before

Mommalove, this thread is an all people, all singing, all dancing, all crying thread. It flows like a river and remains steady when the river bursts. Now, put these pillows over your eyes and ears for just a sec........

When I came back my hols, I ordered 4 books.

Raising a Son
Raising a Daughter
How to Tak so Your Kids Will Listen and Listen so You Kids Will Talk and
Little Angels (because they promise case studies with twins and triplets)

I have so far only scanned them but if I only get one thing out of them it will be worth it.

My problem is that I have lost all patience (at all times of day) and struggle to cope with the melody of voices all needing to talk at once and have help at once.

And I'm sad that I feel the need to have them. I did a fine job of raising one child but I can't help feeling like the problem is me. DD1 is a lovely kid who turns to bad behaviour to be heard above it all. The DTs shock me with how off the rails they can be and how much lack of control of each situation I feel.

Momma, you may take the pillows away

Kelly, how awful! Hope he's better soon. Is it this friday you fly? You take big care with the ABs. DD1 had them for the first time ever age 4, then ended up in hospital with Stevens Johnston Syndrome. The jury is still out on whether they provoked a reaction in her. Every doc had their own opinion but in my heart of hearts I felt they did. In the end she couldn't have coped without all the other meds (inc different ABs) but I'm very, very wary. Listen to me, I'm crazy, I'm sure 99% are just fine.

Forgot to say, I took a hideous virus yesterday. Its flu like. I hurt everywhere. I can't eat, feel sick, get sweats and chills, tonsils huge, ears very sore when I swallow. DP is helping but just getting over it himself so I'm trying to keep going. Joy. All three children up in the night. Joy.

take it from me you do not want to see my pregnant twin tummy!!!!!!!! or the remains of it now 4 months on

FG - you sound like you are my DT.............

wow harrogatemum - posted bang on the same time

by which I mean - I feel exactly the same darling. Constantly in turmoil about their behaviour and my behaviour as a consequence. ~Even find myself shouting at the baby.......anyone who wants to have a go at me for this, stand in my shoes first, then go ahead.

fg, I remember your dd was ill, I had no idea it started with the ABs! That is shocking and I will keep an eye on him thanks. How quickly did she get ill?

It is this fri, yes.

He actually ended up A&E today, little terror got hold of gran's heart tablets she left lying around. Luckily he only had one or two and so was fine. I really hope we manage to get thru the holiday without him needing a dr!

mommalove, give them a slap, it not a total nightmare, honest!...

Do what we do mommalove. Lie to everyone except multiple mums!

Must look at your pic but first need to go and use my big voice....oh sod it... shout.... at the DTs who are still not sleeping! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

hi mommalove - I can talk from very recent experience . ds1 is a normal 3.7 year old, he wants constant attention, playing with all the time, questions etc... you get my drift. He was like it before dt's and worst after - bless him. When he is at preschool everything seems so much easier. When he is about it is a juggle - but you get on with it.

dh works shifts so every other week I am on my own 3pm- midnight - so tea, bath and bed with all three of them. We don't have a lot of help (by choice) and they only paid help is nursery three days a week.

I am tired - lack of sleep and I shout - I may regret it, but I do - frustration. Routine is fantastic and the dt's have a great bedtime routine - hurray - yes frumpygrumpy we have started on ds1's 'going to bed on his own' routine this week

Your ds is older and should understand more and there is alos school .

I do get wound up now with people saying 'ohhh double trouble' 'you've got your hands full' - - I wish people could be more positive.

I do have bad days and more often bad nights abd have sat feeding at 3am wishing I could run away , but at least have had the courage to admit this to dh who is very supportive and helps as much as he can.

Sorry for rambling - can't believe I am going to post this

the post was meant to support the fact that I wouldn't change them for the world, it is getting easier and it isn't as hard or as bad as 'others' made out. Of course these others don't have multiples.

DS1 tells everyone that we are lucky to have two babies and I totally agree with him