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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

Why has Forever Living Products closed down its MLM business in the USA? - Talented Ladies Club

Why has MLM Forever Living Products shut down its USA MLM arm? Could the company be in trouble? We find out why.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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user1471446301 · 06/06/2026 10:25

YouOKHun · 04/06/2026 15:04

@user1471446301mmm, interesting situation to watch. If someone has a chequered history with some question marks over financial conduct what better career move is there than MLM? In fact a vague acquaintance with honesty and a willingness to do what it takes regardless are key competencies for success in FLP. As long as he was overseeing recruitment on a grand scale (which was clearly happening if India was a stop on the Grand Tour), then no one is asking any questions at HQ.

If the bosses cared about who was part of FLP and cared about how they were operating they wouldn’t have just touched down on the tarmac of the airport in India when they found out about the arrest, they’d be much more aware. Or perhaps they had to act shocked and surprised and get themselves out of the country as quick as possible?

I'm not going to be available next week to keep tabs on our Indian FL Fraudster or any other bot activity. Below is a link to the cause list (he's bottom of page 9) if anyone wants to keep a eye out. You can use the link to search and update after Tuesday 9/6 I should imagine it will be a brief hearing without a plea and then moved from Telangana court.
api.sci.gov.in/jonew/cl/2026-06-08/M_J_1.pdf#:~:text=44,%5BR%2D3%5D%2C%20%5BR%2D4%5D%2C%20%5BR%2D5%5D%2C%20%5BR%2D6%5D%2C%20%5BR%2D7%5D%2C

notgettinganyyounger · 06/06/2026 20:10

Anyone live near Yawn and Techies buildabigdisappointment day? Would love to know how many beige ladies will show up. It would be great to know the numbers before we read how fantastically successful it was. You'd have to set out early because im sure there will be traffic congestion on all routes in to the venue. NOT

YouOKHun · 06/06/2026 22:20

@notgettinganyyounger I live a long way from the venue but I’d be very tempted to ring the venue on the day and find out if it has been cancelled. I don’t think it will go ahead but if it does it’s going to be close ups and blurred shots so it’s hard to tell how many are in the room and lots of infilling using an AI generated audience. This can all be created if no one turns up. It wouldn’t surprise me if there are no bookings, the venue is quietly cancelled and with no real live witnesses present the whole thing is recreated using AI for online consumption.

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ItWasnaMeGuv · 07/06/2026 07:49

All us botwatchers should turn up to the venue for coffee n chat, all wearing beige with long flicky hair (wear a wig if necessary) sipping coffee and watching for the hoards avidly Grin.

Spongebobette · 07/06/2026 08:31

I feel sorry for Techie

it’s obviously been decided (by Yawn) that her appearance isn’t good enough and she has to be AI altered in every post. That can’t be good for her self esteem

SnoogyWoo · 07/06/2026 21:29

Spongebobette · 07/06/2026 08:31

I feel sorry for Techie

it’s obviously been decided (by Yawn) that her appearance isn’t good enough and she has to be AI altered in every post. That can’t be good for her self esteem

I never thought of that but I think you’re right, how awful.

hourglass2 · 08/06/2026 09:07

I think Yawn is addicted to AI....every photo with her and techie in is so obviously false it's laughable

metalstrawsarecoldbutnotsoggy · 08/06/2026 09:51

hourglass2 · 08/06/2026 09:07

I think Yawn is addicted to AI....every photo with her and techie in is so obviously false it's laughable

OMG her latest story is so funny going on about how people are using AI too much in business!! 😂

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 08/06/2026 09:54

I just saw that - followed by an AI generated photo of her 'meditating'. The delusion is even stronger than any of us realised

Spongebobette · 08/06/2026 10:03

HILARIOUSLY Yawn has just posted about AI and how it’s overused!!!

she inadvertently displays a leaky roof while she’s filming 🤣

Spongebobette · 08/06/2026 10:37

There are 4 pastel-suited ladies sitting in a row on Techie’s Insta

I recognise AI-improved Yawn and Techie and presumably the other 2 are their brand ambassadors or whatever they call them, similarly AI-ed

YouOKHun · 08/06/2026 12:11

How can Yawn post the obvious AI meditation photo and in the next breath criticise other people’s or businesses’ use of AI?!

She must believe that her audience is less aware, more stupid and more sheltered from the real world than she is. Has she no self-awareness at all? It’s a level of self-awareness that is gained by being indulged from a young age and by surrounding herself with people who don’t dare question anything she does.

It’s as if she is devoid of any powers of self reflection. She has no idea what a fool she looks does she? And, of course, no one in her teeny tiny world is going to summon up the courage to tell her, but I bet even the most hardy followers have stopped watching. Take Doggy Bot, what could she possibly get from AI cartoons of Yawn and endlessly recycled soundbites about “business” from someone who isn’t doing as well as Doggy Bot is doing in her own business?

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ItWasnaMeGuv · 08/06/2026 18:04

Very odd pic on insta of Techie at a laptop, with blurred hands and slightly blurred face. Why not choose a clear photo? Anyone else see it? I watch on insta-anon site.

YouOKHun · 08/06/2026 18:27

@ItWasnaMeGuv the blurred hands indicate how fast Techie is having to work to meet Yawn’s demands. Or because, as mentioned above, Techie has been told she must never appear in full focus again.

She may be waving, but I think she is probably drowning.

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hourglass2 · 08/06/2026 19:22

metalstrawsarecoldbutnotsoggy · 08/06/2026 09:51

OMG her latest story is so funny going on about how people are using AI too much in business!! 😂

I saw that!

YouOKHun · 09/06/2026 17:33

For someone making £30k a month Rictus is very keen to speak to my FB persona. In January I commented on a post with the one word response she asked for in order to receive her intro video. What I received was a message hoping to speak to me and regular harassment in Messenger since, voice notes, typed stuff. At no point has the promised concrete information been imparted about the opportunity. All I’ve had is what seems to be an urgent need to get information about me by cornering me. Why can’t the information about the FLP “opportunity” be given so I can mull it over? It’s almost as if I might start googling for myself and coming to my own conclusions if she isn’t able to shut down questions etc.

She says ‘hi YouOKHun, I’m just hoping to speak to yourself about the amazing opportunity’. It’s good to know the former teacher is so hot on herself’s grammar! A bit of me wants to give her an example of the reflexive pronoun being used correctly by saying ‘go fuck yourself’ but I’ve gone with silence instead which is probably more upsetting for her. She is certainly scrabbling around and putting in a lot of effort for someone doing so well.

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Spongebobette · 09/06/2026 17:55

Are you not tempted to allow her to pitch to you?

Crikeyalmighty · 09/06/2026 18:45

@YouOKHun I know at£30k a month - I couldn’t be arsed following up disinterested people!!

YouOKHun · 09/06/2026 18:56

@SpongebobetteI have a feeling it would encourage her (and I’d have to out myself)!

Here is a post from Yawn:

Run the £100 test

You don't need to build the whole thing to know if it'll sell.
The cheapest way to test an idea is to see if one real person will pay a small amount for a simple version of it.
TRY THIS TODAY
Offer a tiny, manual version of your idea to one person for a modest fee this week. See if they say yes.

This seems a very flawed way to assess whether a business based on recruitment will work. One person showing a polite interest does not predict how it will land with a larger number of people, in a diluted or expanded form when her behaviour and her customers’ behaviour will also be different than in a one to one situation. How would she measure the outcome? ‘They didn’t pay me £100 for the edited version because they are a negative hater. I’m still going to launch my biz anyway’.

Anway, I think the principle of testing something quietly is what she wishes she had done. Instead she went for the “launch” and then the big fanfare and reveal without ever really road testing anything and it turns out it’s downhill all the way from launch. Now she is desperately trying to catch any individual she can in a reverse of the above Top Tip.

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Spongebobette · 09/06/2026 19:11

I really don’t know what she thinks all these imaginary businesses are

Earlier she said something about don’t bother brainstorming ideas for a business - you can make a business out of something you currently do for free for people!

Magical thinking.

And why does she think everyone wants to have their own business? Really hard work, long hours, no holiday pay or sick pay etc - you’d really need to have something robust and reliable to replace an actual job.

my suggestion, Yawn, if you are reading this, is to offer to work for your friend who runs a doggy business. You like dogs and would provide a useful service, walking and boarding dogs.

Spongebobette · 09/06/2026 19:13

YouOKHun · 09/06/2026 18:56

@SpongebobetteI have a feeling it would encourage her (and I’d have to out myself)!

Here is a post from Yawn:

Run the £100 test

You don't need to build the whole thing to know if it'll sell.
The cheapest way to test an idea is to see if one real person will pay a small amount for a simple version of it.
TRY THIS TODAY
Offer a tiny, manual version of your idea to one person for a modest fee this week. See if they say yes.

This seems a very flawed way to assess whether a business based on recruitment will work. One person showing a polite interest does not predict how it will land with a larger number of people, in a diluted or expanded form when her behaviour and her customers’ behaviour will also be different than in a one to one situation. How would she measure the outcome? ‘They didn’t pay me £100 for the edited version because they are a negative hater. I’m still going to launch my biz anyway’.

Anway, I think the principle of testing something quietly is what she wishes she had done. Instead she went for the “launch” and then the big fanfare and reveal without ever really road testing anything and it turns out it’s downhill all the way from launch. Now she is desperately trying to catch any individual she can in a reverse of the above Top Tip.

She’s let slip several times that she and Techie have sunk a lot of money into their ‘app’ - presumably without finding out whether people wanted it

YouOKHun · 10/06/2026 10:26

Someone sent me this screen shot of an article in today’s Daily Mail. Behind a paywall so I haven’t read it but I’m not surprised it’s appeared as Inteletravel seems to be very active at the moment.

BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
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Crikeyalmighty · 10/06/2026 12:52

Just a tip for anyone wanting to read features behind a paywall - type in on Google first few lines such as inteletravel destroyed my life and add pressreader - and click on the pressreader link that comes up - you can then read the feature

user1471446301 · 10/06/2026 12:52

YouOKHun · 10/06/2026 10:26

Someone sent me this screen shot of an article in today’s Daily Mail. Behind a paywall so I haven’t read it but I’m not surprised it’s appeared as Inteletravel seems to be very active at the moment.

if you search her name and Inteletravel you will get a hit on her Instagram very informative and she certainly would be welcome and fit in right here. I have limited internet where I am at the moment but I've got a korker of a file progressing on the FL India Fraudsters.

Spongebobette · 10/06/2026 13:34

Thanks for the tip!

great read - full of the MLM tactics we bang on about including ‘love-bombing’

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