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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

Why has Forever Living Products closed down its MLM business in the USA? - Talented Ladies Club

Why has MLM Forever Living Products shut down its USA MLM arm? Could the company be in trouble? We find out why.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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user1471446301 · 22/06/2026 20:33

user1471446301 · 22/06/2026 20:06

Interestingly it's big and she's moving .... dare I say downsizing. Surely a quick google will show her and her followers her appraisal is delusional I love it when a scammer get scammed.

she's deleted some comments I can't remember the exact words but they said probs worth about approx between something (can't remember) and up to 35K but poof it's gone. ha ha ha

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 22/06/2026 21:14

She’s turned comments off now 😂

user1471446301 · 22/06/2026 21:26

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 22/06/2026 21:14

She’s turned comments off now 😂

Think she has deleted the post now I don't think it went the way she wanted it to.

benten54 · 22/06/2026 21:46

I too am baffled why they styled this out and didn’t quietly cancel and refund the two attendees and take the venue hire on the chin. A poorly (no disastrously) attended event lets everyone know this business is not a success.

Spongebobette · 23/06/2026 08:31

But it only cost her a packet of biscuits in the end

and her time
and Techie’s time

(which I don’t think they ever cost)

and her dignity

user1471446301 · 23/06/2026 10:16

Spongebobette · 23/06/2026 08:31

But it only cost her a packet of biscuits in the end

and her time
and Techie’s time

(which I don’t think they ever cost)

and her dignity

How to turn your profile into an effective mini website to bring in sales!! (all two of them). There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Justdancevance · 23/06/2026 13:54

Castle now has a personal trainer - listening to her talk about it it’s hard to square with the fact

she built a gym in her shed and moved in a personal trainer for a month. It remained a gym until her dad turned it into an office

Her husband is a personal trainer.
she jointed a swanky gym in Spain and had a gym space in her house in Spain

but according to her today she’s not exercised in five years. I must have dreamed the videos of her doing burbies for the camera every morning 😆

Spongebobette · 23/06/2026 18:09

Ridiculous child-woman

SnoogyWoo · 23/06/2026 18:31

Do you think any of them can ever tell the truth? They think lying is a form of marketing.

user1471446301 · 23/06/2026 18:40

Justdancevance · 23/06/2026 13:54

Castle now has a personal trainer - listening to her talk about it it’s hard to square with the fact

she built a gym in her shed and moved in a personal trainer for a month. It remained a gym until her dad turned it into an office

Her husband is a personal trainer.
she jointed a swanky gym in Spain and had a gym space in her house in Spain

but according to her today she’s not exercised in five years. I must have dreamed the videos of her doing burbies for the camera every morning 😆

wasn't that personal trainer a gloop peddler but also something like an olympic table tennis player? pretty sure she was. She was never seen or heard from again just like the peloton bike bought in lockdown.

YouOKHun · 23/06/2026 18:57

Where has Yawn got to with her PT training? I know she got some sort of certificate but she hadn’t finished had she? It’s all gone very quiet on that front.

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Spongebobette · 23/06/2026 19:00

SnoogyWoo · 23/06/2026 18:31

Do you think any of them can ever tell the truth? They think lying is a form of marketing.

They create their own reality on social media

notgettinganyyounger · 23/06/2026 21:51

Yawns feedback from the kitchen party is allegedly INSANE 🤣

notgettinganyyounger · 23/06/2026 21:56

Yet another course has been created for build her disappointment. Full of 'punchy information '. Bet they want to punch her when they've parted with their money for nothing in return

Spongebobette · 23/06/2026 21:59

notgettinganyyounger · 23/06/2026 21:51

Yawns feedback from the kitchen party is allegedly INSANE 🤣

Everything is beautiful’ and ‘insane’

and recycled content. Nothing new

she’s managed to extract testimonials from both attendees from yesterday… perhaps they weren’t allowed to leave until they’d done one 🤣

definitelynotabot · 24/06/2026 07:29

notgettinganyyounger · 23/06/2026 21:56

Yet another course has been created for build her disappointment. Full of 'punchy information '. Bet they want to punch her when they've parted with their money for nothing in return

It is getting ridiculous isn't it.
How many more desperate courses?

notgettinganyyounger · 24/06/2026 09:39

It'll all be over for yawn soon. Then she will reinvent herself once more as a guru for something or other. Its never ending.

Crikeyalmighty · 24/06/2026 09:42

definitelynotabot · 24/06/2026 07:29

It is getting ridiculous isn't it.
How many more desperate courses?

It’s clear this lady is pretty insecure- clear as a bell that she can’t earn a living from this , but isn’t prepared to do anything that doesn’t involve social media posting, photo shoots, stuff that makes her sound important and well off . The problem for all those who earned well from the MLM grift is that most jobs don’t involve any of this and they all got used to it and the feeling of a bit of glamour and ‘one up’ on their rather ordinary friends - guess though if they can afford her having a vanity job , then it’s up to her and Mr Yawn, I suspect though they can’t afford it.

DeliaDeetz · 24/06/2026 10:55

The irony of one of Yawn's top tips -
"Try something new and be bad at it publicly"

Buildabear anyone?!

Spongebobette · 24/06/2026 11:04

Crikeyalmighty · 24/06/2026 09:42

It’s clear this lady is pretty insecure- clear as a bell that she can’t earn a living from this , but isn’t prepared to do anything that doesn’t involve social media posting, photo shoots, stuff that makes her sound important and well off . The problem for all those who earned well from the MLM grift is that most jobs don’t involve any of this and they all got used to it and the feeling of a bit of glamour and ‘one up’ on their rather ordinary friends - guess though if they can afford her having a vanity job , then it’s up to her and Mr Yawn, I suspect though they can’t afford it.

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Spot on

a little town near md is full of lovely little shops selling lovely things and when you look round you realise they are ‘hobby’ shops for well-off ladies with rich husbands
Pretend businesses, playing shop, but it keeps them happy

user1471446301 · 24/06/2026 11:12

HOT of the press on threads from caring Yawn.

HEAT WAVE SURVIVAL GUIDE FOR BUSINESS WOMEN
I have just written a survival guide to managing workload, clients & sales in the heat of summer
If you would like me to ping it to you in an email, pop me a message with your email address & I’ll send over my PDF for FREE
#heatwavesurvivalguide #workingfromhomelife #businesshacks #buildher

notgettinganyyounger · 24/06/2026 11:31

Omg I actually thought the heat survival guide was a joke post, but she actually has done it! Hilarious. Obv its a ploy to get your email address so you can be hounded forever more.

YouOKHun · 24/06/2026 12:42

@notgettinganyyounger I’m sure she does want to collect email addresses but my experience of handing over an email address to BaB is that I wasn’t plagued at all and I had to ask three times for the information. With the BaB “open day” I managed to look in the end but it wasn’t straightforward and they changed my password. It wasn’t my [admittedly non-techie] mistake. Had I been a new customer coming across BaB for the first time I think I would have drawn a negative conclusion anyway, without ever receiving the heatwave survival for the hard of thinking email!

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Crikeyalmighty · 24/06/2026 12:59

Spongebobette · 24/06/2026 11:04

Spot on

a little town near md is full of lovely little shops selling lovely things and when you look round you realise they are ‘hobby’ shops for well-off ladies with rich husbands
Pretend businesses, playing shop, but it keeps them happy

We used to say the same when we lived in st Margaret’s ( Richmond/twickers area) - nice little areas with a fair few ‘never know if they will be open or not’ little retail businesses - it’s the same too to some extent here in Bath - although we do of course have tons of big chains to balance it up - it’s business designed to keep comfortably off partners busy and productive with maximum flexibility - not necessarily designed to make money or scale up - fair enough to be honest if you can afford it - I suspect though many of these ex MLM grifters can’t - because it’s not ‘old’ money , it’s incomes they need to keep earning to keep a lifestyle - and the problem is their CVs don’t have anything of substance to move into something else

Spongebobette · 24/06/2026 13:20

Yes exactly

I always had the impression that Arbonne was the MLM for well-off wives who wanted to pretend they had a business. Clever of Arbonne to target these women because the lifestyles portrayed were aspirational

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