Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

[YouOKHun]

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I am interested in the target reading age as well. Surely no self respecting 10 year old will want to dumb down to this journal? If it's aimed at children what is she calling it? Biff and Chip on the Shoulder?

I will be reading the reviews avidly though.

Goodness me what a lot of busy busy work she’s doing

Who is going to leave the first review 🤣

I thought how has yawn written a book with over 200 pages until she leafed through it and it’s 99% blank pages to write in lol. Like everything else she’s stretching the truth using the word author.

Don’t think it’s going to win any awards…

Nobody has time to be writing that much stuff everyday! (And I say that as someone who has kept a diary for years). And there are literally hundreds of journals out there (I get Facebook ads for them all the time) - how exactly does this stand out?

@WickedWitch89 your experience of FLP sounds like the classic experience. Glad you recognised it for the scam it is. A lot of the bots have changed names along the way and many have disappeared from view, hopefully moving on to better things. A lot of clues to the bots' names are scattered through previous threads. Your upline could be known to botwatchers if she was prolific as a bot in MLM or shifted to coaching.

I wonder how much that cost her to self print?

If you put "manifesting journal" into the Amazon search you get over 20,000 results.

Yawn's self publicised offering has a lot of competition! She's clueless and deluded if she thinks hers is any different to all the others.

She a great one for jumping on a bandwagon late in the day isn't she? A couple of loyal and/or coerced downlines will buy it as will her mum. She will buy enough journals to have to compete for space with all the aloe vera she has stashed everywhere in a colossal act of recluttering.

I'm glad she produced the journal because the reviews will be worthy of the Booker Prize. Added bonus, there are a lot of would be authors on Amazon such as Fierce and Uber and a lot of FLP product being offloaded so she should feel at home.

Worked out a few haha. It makes me so angry this shit is still going on. Loads of people on "our team" got new cars and claimed it was because of forever living (big fat lie, all them range rovers were on finance). The top bot on our team was a hairdresser, she seemed quite nice to be fair. Remember seeing her at the last event I attended around 2017 maybe 18 and she looked really down trodden and under confident, like the lightbulb moment had happened for her. Hopefully she's out of it all

There’s no beginning to Yawn’s talents @Sugarplum48 . She’s always fighting the last war isn’t she? Coaching, woo, tacky journals; what next, hoodies emblazoned with “Live, Laugh, Lie!”? Yawn will be remembered as the author of her own misfortune.

Welcome @WickedWitch89 ! Glad to hear you got out before you got stuck in. When you say you signed back up to uni and blocked them all, had you temporarily left uni to follow the MLM dream?

@WickedWitch89 by 2017/18 it was clear the good times were over for MLM but it took some a long time to realise it by which time they had a lot of debt.

At least your upline had something to fall back on. A lot of the ones who struggle on (having had some success through lucky timing and a self centred attitude to recruitment), do so because they have developed no credible experience or skills useful in the outside world. They have to resort to mindset coaching and tidying up their pants drawer in front of an audience. It's a sad end to an unpromising start.

@BSintolerant I cannot wait to see what is coming next. I sense the merch in the offing. Shall I let her use my mlmtruth mug for inspiration?

Someone has won the tablet and guess what the November prize is? Clue: something that won't require any spending on Yawn's part ... a free coaching session with Yawn is November's prize.

What's the betting the winner will be the person Yawn judges to be the most likely to buckle under the pressure when receiving the prize coaching session and sign up to spending more money?

Yes, I completed my first year and left the course (top up degree with distance learning modules alongside work so not the normal route) Signed back up after the last event I attended. I think I gave myself a year to "succeed" and in the time recruited 1 person 😂. Did all the cringe stuff, worked hard for 2k debt (I tracked everything from petrol, food, event tickets, personal sales and the few C9's I sold). I was one of the lucky ones, who was able to pick up where I left my life a year earlier. Could have been a lot worse!

I've been following these threads for a long time but have never commented

Met a friend today in Warwick. Had no idea until l arrived, but next to the Holiday inn and McDonald's we were meeting at was the famous FL marquee / headquarters. From the pictures you would think they were based in glorious countryside. Definitely not the case!

Is the second prize two free coaching sessions with Yawn?

I remember those mugs! 🤣

@WickedWitch89 It’s unfortunate that some people don’t have the good sense to keep records and review their situation - thank goodness you did, or you could’ve ended up in even more debt.

I had no idea the tent was by the Holiday Inn and McDonalds @User4356. No need to hire a bot potty like Yawn’s when you can nip next door for a McPiss!

It’s probably print on demand via Amazon, so she only pays a cut to Amazon each time it is printed. She may have paid someone of a site like fivrr to lay it out ready for printing, but it is possible to do the layout yourself too in MS Word.

It’s very easy to leave reviews on Amazon without having to buy a product, just saying.

There are 3 other identical books available. Obviously Yawn has not researched the title.

@BSintolerant you can even see the tent in this aerial shot! I lived in Warwick as a child and I think the FL HQ was offices for the Longbridge car plant then (early 70s). From the car, driving on the old road (now a cycle route) before the M40 was built it always felt like the country but it was on the edge of a massive car plant. Now it shares a drive way with McDonalds and a hotel and has M40 very close by.

How interesting @YouOKHun ! I wonder if it’s visible from space?

Just had a quick google at last years success day, back in 2017 these were huge, 1000's of FBO's in a stadium. Now it looks like a few 100 in a conference room 😬

No reviews for the journal yet? Surely that was the first instruction/ piece of homework she gave to her group members?

Yawn has hardly written a book. She has written two pages (probably copied and pasted from a similar journal) and tagged it onto a dateless diary. And she was so excited.
Ive written longer shopping lists ffs.