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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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YouOKHun · 09/10/2024 10:14

@HouseofHolbein FLP is a distant memory for Homeschool and so is that brief period when she and her ex Mr Homeschool had money thanks to lucky timing and a willingness to exploit others.

Then came the big comeback with Modere. Mr and Mrs H took to doing banter filled Lives about not very much. Mr Homeschool wore dungarees as a kind of Mr Tumble cover for his slightly menacing control of the jaunty narrative. Occasionally he would hiss an instruction at her through a fixed smile and she would falter. It was clear things weren't nearly as jaunty as they wanted us to believe. Then it became clear that Mrs Homeschool was on the Insolvency register and shortly after they split.

Mr H/weird Willy then started his "everyone else is a narcissist" coaching school to try and dissipate his fury about his straightened circumstances. He pissed around with coaching and ended up on the insolvency register. Then in February this year he disappeared and we think he must have decided to extend his vegetable delivery job to full-time (or been told he has to). I hope he has moved on and got a proper job but the lure of easy and big money in MLM (a myth) is a hard one to ignore when you've neglected reality isn't it?

Meanwhile Mrs H moved to her home town, may have had another go at MLM (can't remember, crypto I think), came out, met a nice partner and got a job in a charity advising/helping people in debt (red flag). She moved on to a new partner then popped up with a luxury car scam and disappeared again until this recent short-lived similar scam.

You probably know all or most of that. What is very clear is that FLP may have seemed like the Golden Ticket to them but it has been the gateway to a pretty miserable existence, wasting life desperately trying to replicate a lifestyle and status that was only ever a mirage.

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YouOKHun · 09/10/2024 10:16

Fecking hell, used the C word (the one about a currency) by mistake and MNHQ has hidden my response to @HouseofHolbein.

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YouOKHun · 09/10/2024 11:01

@HouseofHolbein you probably remember but after a brief moment of money making and spending in FLP Homeschool then did Modere while still with Mr Homeschool. Who can forget their jaunty banter filled Lives with Mr H/Weird Willy in dungarees as a Mr Tumble-esque cover for what looked like a very controlling personality. She looked like a rabbit in the headlights and it was clear things weren't nearly as jaunty off camera as they wanted us to think. Her name was found on the Insolvency Register while she was actively recruiting for Modere.

They split and WW started his Everyone Else is a Narcissist Coaching bizniz as an exercise in airing his personal grievances. He then appeared on the Insolvency Register too. He disappeared in February. Hopefully he has decided to get a proper full time vegetable delivery job (or has been told he has to).

Mrs H moved to her home town, had a go at that currency thingy beginning with C, came out and got herself a new partner who seemed very grounded. She also got herself a job as a support working in a charity helping people with debt (red flag). Then she popped up with a new partner and a luxury car scam which was a non starter. She disappeared and then popped up recently with the latest short lived scam.

They both thought they had the Golden Ticket for that brief time in FLP but really it's set them both on a miserable course that has cost them far more than they ever made back in 2015 and cost their whole family much more than money.

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Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 12:10

Well put @YouOKHun

Forever Living attracted them both at a time when the UK was a growing market for that particular MLM and she grew a big downline. She was the upline of my friend who got suckered in and that’s how I ended up on these threads - I was trying to find out why my friend seemed to have had a personality transplant and was using strange phrases like ‘sack the boss’. Homeschool and Weird Willy met through FL (he admitted later that he’d made no money and went to events hardly able to afford a coffee) and he latched onto her. They went on a spending spree, had kids together and it all fell apart. I have a very low opinion of her because she knew what she was doing, making promises to women in order to sign them up.

Both tried to recreate the days when the money was flowing but unsuccessfully. Seems Homeschool is still at it.

AbbeyGrange · 09/10/2024 14:00

Guru Yawn’s advice is almost on a par with Viz’s Top Tips

I was thinking Take a Break magazine, some right corkers in that one!

YouOKHun · 09/10/2024 14:23

As mentioned earlier on the previous thread, Fierce really is struggling. Today was meant to be the programme walkthrough and there seems to have been very little interest. The problem with the witchy theme is it encourages lots of likes and comments (normally, not today though) but the comments are all from people posting absolute bollocks about having their own wand and pointy hat, but nothing concrete about spending money on her programme. At least her old scams clearly targeted those trying to be commercial. The desperate witchy theme hasn't helped her get to the right people.

I looked at her application form which I could fill out to see if I am good enough to join her programme. It has a link to her T&Cs and Privacy policy which you can only read after you've given her your data.

I also see Speccy is going to the London Job Show at Westfield this weekend where Avon and FLP are exhibiting as "employers".

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Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 15:47

I’m thoroughly enjoying exBFF’s barbed comment about Canva training which is clearly aimed at Yawn and Yawn’s response ‘how I deal with toxic people’ (thin excuse being that one of her fan club asked for advice) - which is one of the most passive aggressive smiling bitchy mean girl vibe reels she’s ever posted

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 15:57

YouOKHun · 09/10/2024 14:23

As mentioned earlier on the previous thread, Fierce really is struggling. Today was meant to be the programme walkthrough and there seems to have been very little interest. The problem with the witchy theme is it encourages lots of likes and comments (normally, not today though) but the comments are all from people posting absolute bollocks about having their own wand and pointy hat, but nothing concrete about spending money on her programme. At least her old scams clearly targeted those trying to be commercial. The desperate witchy theme hasn't helped her get to the right people.

I looked at her application form which I could fill out to see if I am good enough to join her programme. It has a link to her T&Cs and Privacy policy which you can only read after you've given her your data.

I also see Speccy is going to the London Job Show at Westfield this weekend where Avon and FLP are exhibiting as "employers".

Ironic that Fierce is posting lives saying ‘are you struggling right now?

not as much as you clearly are, you appalling woman

SnoogyWoo · 09/10/2024 16:06

I hate the smirk fierce has on her face when doing these lives, horrible charlatan.

It is 78p a day too much Yawn!

AbbeyGrange · 09/10/2024 16:40

Looks like Yawn's been crying again, she's talking about toxic people so something has upset her.

LeoDiCapricorn · 09/10/2024 17:28

Is anyone else bombarded with Fierce emails. Stop with the desperate energy hun 🧙

10weekcountdown · 09/10/2024 18:05

Hello again.
After a few days away from bot watching, I’m just doing a bit of catching up.
Did you know that yawn has a back up Facebook account, set up at the start of September. What’s that all about then? A possible deletion of her main account If her unlucky girl enterprise doesn’t take off?

YouOKHun · 09/10/2024 18:06

Headband:

'Since I've been doing the C9 etc I am transformed'. Then two photos side by side which look identical. Since taking the C9 she is experiencing a strengthened immune system - how does she know that? Anyway if you want to know more you can "pop along to Manchester and find out more AND have a cheeky glass of Prosecco". I'd rather saw my own ears off thanks all the same.

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Sugarplum48 · 09/10/2024 18:09

I wonder if she's blocked all the toxic people on that account as well?

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 18:14

Sugarplum48 · 09/10/2024 18:09

I wonder if she's blocked all the toxic people on that account as well?

No 😉

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 18:16

10weekcountdown · 09/10/2024 18:05

Hello again.
After a few days away from bot watching, I’m just doing a bit of catching up.
Did you know that yawn has a back up Facebook account, set up at the start of September. What’s that all about then? A possible deletion of her main account If her unlucky girl enterprise doesn’t take off?

It seems to be a clean page with no mention of FL
so she doesn’t have to go back and scrub her original one of all mention of her old company

ticktock19 · 09/10/2024 19:14

Yawn has had the tatty gold leaf out again and plastered it messily over a blue Buddha statue that Mr Yawn got her. Apparently it's now unique and abundance attracting, I think it just looks like it needs a good sanding as it's all chipped 🤷‍♀️

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 19:41

ticktock19 · 09/10/2024 19:14

Yawn has had the tatty gold leaf out again and plastered it messily over a blue Buddha statue that Mr Yawn got her. Apparently it's now unique and abundance attracting, I think it just looks like it needs a good sanding as it's all chipped 🤷‍♀️

Words fail me

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 19:42

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 19:41

Words fail me

Actually I have found some words.

declutter that piece of garbage

ticktock19 · 09/10/2024 19:59

@Spongebobette precisely 😂

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 20:11

Yawn needs to reconsider how she presents things

she is so unprofessional

she bigs herself up constantly ‘I’ve just delivered a FABULOUS webinar’

and claiming to be an expert on perimenopause as well as social media, fitness, diet, running, weight loss, LoA, manifestation relationships, bringing up children..…

OhMyGiddyAunt · 09/10/2024 21:40

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 20:11

Yawn needs to reconsider how she presents things

she is so unprofessional

she bigs herself up constantly ‘I’ve just delivered a FABULOUS webinar’

and claiming to be an expert on perimenopause as well as social media, fitness, diet, running, weight loss, LoA, manifestation relationships, bringing up children..…

Surely, at the rate that Yawn is churning out these sessions that she's suddenly an expert in, she's going to run out of topics by the end of October!?

Angrymum22 · 09/10/2024 22:27

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 20:11

Yawn needs to reconsider how she presents things

she is so unprofessional

she bigs herself up constantly ‘I’ve just delivered a FABULOUS webinar’

and claiming to be an expert on perimenopause as well as social media, fitness, diet, running, weight loss, LoA, manifestation relationships, bringing up children..…

She is not an expert at enhancing blue Buddhas. 🤮

YouOKHun · 10/10/2024 00:09

Spongebobette · 09/10/2024 15:47

I’m thoroughly enjoying exBFF’s barbed comment about Canva training which is clearly aimed at Yawn and Yawn’s response ‘how I deal with toxic people’ (thin excuse being that one of her fan club asked for advice) - which is one of the most passive aggressive smiling bitchy mean girl vibe reels she’s ever posted

I looked on ex-BFF's insta earlier. There was a comment on her Canva post saying something like "do you do crap coaching for the price of a Starbucks?' Ex-BFF replied something along the lines of "lol! Who is commenting?" I went back to look again and the comment had gone. It's clear from the comment and from ex-BFF's "lol" response to the comment that the Canva post was a dig at Yawn (if we were in any doubt).

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Contraryjane · 10/10/2024 10:12

Yawn’s posts on her Unlucky Girl site are liked by hardly anyone. One is the one with a strange name. Another was a man who hasn’t posted anything on his own FB for years.

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