Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Not fun leaving home early in freezing conditions to drive up the motorway and record something for your audience in a service station car park

Funny she hasn't posted for 6 days on the cult page. That's not very bizniz brained is it!! It must be a lovely make believe world to live on, pretending to be something and someone. I watch these bots like 2jags, speccy, squawking shrill headband and think my god you are all just beyond insufferable. It's bizarre that these women really are so blinkered by the nonsensical world they live in.

I think, for many of these clearly unsuccessful bots, their social media is often used to convince themselves that they have an actual business

they are given ideas and prompts by their upline to post and this keeps them busy and makes them think they are working on their business

Maybe it's a Dr Faustus reference...Yawn is an intellectual now isn't she? She's an author just like Marlowe...

@Sugarplum48 Yawn knows no one is looking at the Lucky Girl page. They never really were, but it has dropped away to nothing. It's the biggest giveaway that it's not working and that any interaction she has is FLP generated. Take FLP away from Yawn and there is no Unlucky Girl Club and no income.

I agree, her only ‘funnel’ is her FL downline. Some are sufficiently loyal to sign on to pay for what she used to provide for free (albeit with extra woo and magical thinking). But where might the new members come from if no one is attracted to (and I use that phrase deliberately) her FB page?

All is not lost for Yawn, no matter how desperate she is. Looks like she’s doing her business globally by inviting people to spend a few dollars rather than spending a penny. She could use blank pages from her manifesting book instead of loo paper. Imagine a queue of desperate people hammering on the door: “What are you doing in there: issuing a writ? Manifesting book number two? Making your Will? Oh no, you haven’t got any willable income …”

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It takes at least an hour from Yawn's house to Brum, it's freezing cold and there will be icy untreated country roads along the way and for what?

Yawns doing the obligatory wellness retreat now, she might as well as she’s trying everything else.

Yawn is now threatening her followers with a "wellness weekend retreat". It won't be at the Thatch (surely?!) so I assume she'd have to find a venue. She will have to charge her retreat customers handsomely for that and no one she knows will be able to stretch to that as they have given their money to FLP.

I suppose her trip to support a friend today was her jumping when her coach tells her to jump. Another day of expenses with no earnings for Yawn. Have they cooked up the wellness retreat together? She plans to offer wholesome smoothies, sound baths, a chef, meditation, yoga, banishing negativity and empowerment exercises and fun, which could mean:

Wholesome smoothies: aloe vera
Sound bath: being waterboarded willingly to drown out the sound of Yawn's empowerment bollocks
Chef: Mr Yawn in a pinny
Meditation: shutting the fuck up while Yawn reads out something nicked from Headspace
Yoga: who knows but it will probably require a trip to A&E afterwards.
Banishing negativity: thought stopping and guilting people about their thinking
Empowerment exercises: boosting Yawn's ego
Fun: not applicable

Cross post @SnoogyWoo! Yes, throw shit at a wall and some is bound to stick.

Yawn is flogging the aloe half price today

are they allowed to undercut other FBOs like this? I thought it was discouraged

Yawn, as we know, has the attention span of a Nat so it comes as no surprise that yet another “project” is rapidly biting the dust.

FL have obviously got Yawn on a very short leash so her income source is rapidly shrinking. I predict that the sale boards will appear outside the Thatch after Christmas and she will be claiming she needs to downsize now her children are all grown up. Despite the fact they are still at home.

Castle is taking four months off apparently. She will keep supporting her current scamsitversity bots. Perhaps to concentrate more on her family, who knows.

How interesting

I am sure she’ll still be dumping her kids on her long-suffering parents

Would undercutting other FBOs make the pyramid collapse?

How interesting - do we know why? Is Castle hoping her disappearance will make her followers gradually forget about her so she can quietly get a job and fade away into the background?

Part of me doubts that Castle will fade away if Homeschool’s latest MLM venture is anything to go by. For someone whose experience of MLMs ended in bankruptcy, Homeschool must be truly bonkers and brainwashed if she thinks she’s going to hit the big time this time. I wonder if Weird Willy is on her “Who do you know” list?

The undercutting prices behaviour of Yawn must have been observed by other bots at her level. What about her followers who are also trying to flog Aloe? How does Yawn's bargain basement affect them? How do the most supportive Unlucky Girls feel given that the ones viewing her content most regularly are also her downlines? It's another demonstration that she is still entwined in FLP to others' detriment even if there are no income claims mentioning FLP today.

If your downlines are your promoters and the ones you are coaching, if you are still in FLP, if you are claiming you were super successful in your "business" and by being coached a person can achieve the same [fictional] abundance/career income/the material goods they have always dreamt of/amazing secure future, can that really be enough for TiNA to say "well done FLP, you've clearly stopped damaging claims associated with your name that were being made by your bots". Unless FLP slings Yawn out altogether then what has really changed? The lies and damage is still being done.

Castle has been shouting louder and louder about whatever it is she does and I think she has run out of ideas, exclamation marks, emojis and new angles on the same old scam. How many times can she say "this time I'm giving you the secrets of my success" or offer a discount on a discount without any real engagement?. Unlike Yawn she can pretend she is on a "creative break" and get her parents to pay for her to do nothing. She won't be able to resist some validation from Social media but her audience won't notice any difference between the value of her "amazing" coaching and the silence when she is on a break.

I don't look at her page much because she really is dull now. If you can't even attract the attention of botwatchers you're in real trouble.

Or will she emerge in the Spring and say she is working "with" an MLM?

Anyone watched the "Forever Matters" broadcast? I have to save you the trouble. Basically Japan took nearly all the top 10 slots and nearly all the promotions. No one in the UK mentioned.

Photos of success days around the globe focussing on the big crowds in the poorest nations :(. Ireland had over 150 attends at a success day apparently (probably had 151 in attendance). And the UK? Not mentioned.

The fact she hasn't even posted on the page since Nov 21st speaks volumes

On her paid page or her free page? She completely lacks consistency of any kind!

The free page..that's seemed to of now died a death plus her admission on a tt post saying she wasn't getting the attention she thought she'd get from the daily manibullshit and it wasn't worth her time and effort, so you either pay for it now or don't get the taster. She's all hot air and no consistent flair.

I'm confused, I can only see one page?