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Is partner financially unfair on maternity?

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greenteaforever · 07/12/2022 14:22

Hey everyone, new to mumsnet, find it such a good source of real answers and support. I am having a few issues around finance with my boyfriend, which have gotten worse since becoming pregnant.

Background
I am English, age 36, from a low-income single parent upbringing, quite chaotic but Mam did her best. I am employed full-time and have ADHD (recently diagnosed).

My boyfriend is Spanish, 32 and from a financially stable married parent upbringing, his parents were retired when born. He is employed full-time and is Autistic (recently diagnosed).

We both live in a new build house and have been together for 10 years, living together 8. I love him with all my heart but he has unusual views on money matters that I’m uncomfortable with.

The problem
I am 5 months pregnant, due in May 2023. It was planned but took around 5 years of waiting for him to be ready, but won’t get into that 🙃

I started thinking about maternity leave and doing research years ago, and after much deliberation, I have gone for 9 months off. He only has 2 weeks paid off. This will allow me to be with baby and adjust to motherhood (as someone with ADHD, it will be harder than most!) but unfortunately it will leave me with around 50% reduction in income over that time.

I would’ve hoped my boyfriend would offer to help with costs, seeing as I am only losing this money due to not working and taking care of our baby, but he has not. I have tried talking, WhatsApp messages, spreadsheets, showing him research, mapping it out on a whiteboard, you name it - but he still doesn’t see why he should have to help. I don’t believe in involving his parents or friends as this is our relationship, or ‘just don’t pay’ as this won’t work and cause extra stress.

We pay 50/50 on the mortgage and all bills currently, he earns double what I do. He offered to pay my half of the mortgage over the 9 months maternity, but taking that as his ownership of the house. This feels very wrong to me as I am only losing my share of the house because I am the one taking the time off work, and therefore losing income, which by the way saves us a tonne in childcare. Though I am grateful it help with cash flow, it doesn’t sit well with me.

However, I don’t really see any other option but to accept. Because he’s unwilling to help, it means half of the bills and baby stuff over that 9 months will still be my responsibility. My maternity pay will just about cover this meaning I’ll have 0 left to pay the mortgage, so pushed into a corner to make the decision for him to pay.

I also have monthly debt payments (not much but house related) I have no idea what I’m going to do with. I know you can make arrangements with the bank but again, it pushes me further away from paying them off because I am the one taking time of work, so that doesn’t seem fair either.

My question is - how can I deal with this? I cannot force him to pay, and I’ve tried reasoning with him, so ‘telling him he must pay’ is not an answer. I want to know what my rights are, who I can go to for advice to make sure I’m not being financially at risk as a woman on maternity, and what I can practically do about this (if anything). I am already in tough with citizens advice.

It would be great to hear your views and anyone going through similar.

Annoyingly, he is also withholding money for stuff needed for the baby yet continuing to spend on stuff for himself. I have to fight and beg if I need something, or pay for it myself which only lets him win and pushes me further into debt.

Another thing to add is he plans on paying off his side of the mortgage in the next 2 years, which will save me interest I am very grateful of, but now I feel I ‘owe’ him and have to take a financial hit myself to make up for it, and fall further into debt for us to become a family whilst he continues to become more free.

He is the higher earner and has the right to do with his money as he wishes, but I just feel like I’m constantly trying to catch up and becoming exhausted from it all. I don’t earn a bad salary and have worked my ass off to get where I am, given my background, and he continues to watch me struggle which feels very strange after a 10 year relationship, now that I’m carrying his child I worry how our kids may be affected.

I even have a second job whilst pregnant at the weekends due to the cost of living crisis, and he watched me do 12h shifts after working Mon-Fri and didn’t say a word, knowing he could very easily help. I might not have even said yes as I have never not once asked him for money, but it would be nice to offer. My choice I know, but can’t he see I’m vulnerable and trying my best? I would do it for him in a heartbeat if the tables were turned.

After much begging, he also agreed I could have the £21 a week in child benefit whilst on maternity, but I can’t get that now as his earnings are over the threshold which sucks. Again, no offer from him to make that up. A measly £21 per week.

I only want things to be fair - I do not expect him to pay my way, just recognise I’m at a disadvantage and adjust his support during those 9 months only. I am an independent woman and have always paid half but feel severely at risk since becoming pregnant.

Thanks!

OP posts:
OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 07/12/2022 14:26

Leave him, take half the equity in the house and do it alone is my advice. Or take the minimum 2 weeks maternity leave and then go back to work and make him pay half of the childcare bill if you don't want to leave him.

He is being utterly selfish and controlling and financially abusive.

AnotherDelphinium · 07/12/2022 14:28

Child benefit you are entitled to, ask him if he’d prefer to pay it to you directly, or you’ll claim it and HMRC will deduct it from him as he’s a high earner.

The rest is very difficult, I’d have assumed you’d have discussed this sooner? Normally you’d put enough into a joint account to cover everything, and both have the same % of pay left over for spends. He’d have more as the higher earner, but you’d not be left essentially bankrupt.

You need a hard sit down discussion with him.

stuntbubbles · 07/12/2022 14:29

He’s financially abusive and it will only get worse once the baby arrives. Leave him now, get yourself in a decent financial position without him and claim CMS once the baby is here. Sorry.

IrmaGord · 07/12/2022 14:32

You're not a partnership and tbh the underlying issue here seems to be that he doesn't really want a baby or for it to impact on his life. I think it will only get worse so I agree with @OhhhhhhhhBiscuits Your only option is to leave and get him to pay child maintenance.

Redannie118 · 07/12/2022 14:32

I would ask for this to be moved to relationships as its really about your boyfriends severe financial abuse. If you report your thread it will be moved.

Rhutdvhf · 07/12/2022 14:33

You do not have any rights, and you are leaving yourself in a hugely perilous position.

This is financial abuse. Leave him, take your share of the house’s equity, claim child benefit and see what you’re then entitled to from him. This is really not what love looks like (from him).

Hoppinggreen · 07/12/2022 14:33

Having a baby with this man and not being married to him is a bad idea but I imagine it’s a bit late to worry about that now - unless you can appeal to his (presumably) Catholic guilt and have a quick ceremony before baby arrives.
Hes either clueless or tight, either way it’s not great

IrmaGord · 07/12/2022 14:35

Are you on the mortgage OP?

HermioneWeasley · 07/12/2022 14:35

He’s an abusive bastard. Leave him, get your half of the house equity and pursue him for maintenance. Do not put him on the birth certificate

Y7drama · 07/12/2022 14:36

Rhutdvhf · 07/12/2022 14:33

You do not have any rights, and you are leaving yourself in a hugely perilous position.

This is financial abuse. Leave him, take your share of the house’s equity, claim child benefit and see what you’re then entitled to from him. This is really not what love looks like (from him).

I think you be should follow this advice.

Tabitha888 · 07/12/2022 14:36

Dear god can't you see how wrong this all is! Leave him, this will just be your life for ever. Babies are not cheap it's just the now, imagine the battles with school uniforms etc. seek help, sell them house. Honestly you'll be better on your own xx

Rhutdvhf · 07/12/2022 14:36

Hoppinggreen · 07/12/2022 14:33

Having a baby with this man and not being married to him is a bad idea but I imagine it’s a bit late to worry about that now - unless you can appeal to his (presumably) Catholic guilt and have a quick ceremony before baby arrives.
Hes either clueless or tight, either way it’s not great

Marrying someone who’s abusing her isn’t a wise move. She is currently entitled to 50% of the house. Better to leave than to tie herself to him legally.

Wakk · 07/12/2022 14:36

OhhhhhhhhBiscuits · 07/12/2022 14:26

Leave him, take half the equity in the house and do it alone is my advice. Or take the minimum 2 weeks maternity leave and then go back to work and make him pay half of the childcare bill if you don't want to leave him.

He is being utterly selfish and controlling and financially abusive.

This x 100

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/12/2022 14:36

He's not a good partner or father. Unfortunately you found that out now. Everything you now do needs to be for you and the baby. Plan to leave and do it alone.

I'm sorry!

LIZS · 07/12/2022 14:37

Your outlooks on finance clearly differ and it is a shame for the baby to bring it all to a head. He sounds abusive. You can claim cb but he may have to repay all or part of the value through his tax return. How is the house owned?

Mynoodlesareoodles · 07/12/2022 14:37

He doesn't have the right to do with his money what he wishes - he is about to be a parent. I think realistically that your problem isn't simply that he's financially abusive, but that he's happy to see you struggle, sees the baby as your responsibility and won't compromise/ discuss the situation. I'd echo PP and leave and claim maintenance.

Wnikat · 07/12/2022 14:38

Tell his parents exactly what he is doing. They deserve to know what kind of man they have raised.

And get rid asap. You and your baby will be much better off without the financially abusive dick. I bet it’s not the only way in which he is abusive

Mynoodlesareoodles · 07/12/2022 14:38

Oh and don't give the baby his name

SparkyBlue · 07/12/2022 14:38

This is awful. Please don't allow this financially abusive situation to continue. Surely you can understand that this is not normal behaviour. He doesn't deserve you. Best of luck with your pregnancy

spare123 · 07/12/2022 14:38

oh dear. I would leave now, disentangle yourself financially, don't put him on the birth certificate and raise this baby on your own. Or, go back to work at 6 weeks and make him pay for half the childcare, whilst getting your ducks in a row to leave. This isn't a partnerhip. What a shit he is.

CatJumperTwat · 07/12/2022 14:39

Leave him, force a house sale, and get as much of the proceeds as you can. Protect your child from him.

spare123 · 07/12/2022 14:39

And get the baby registered yourself, without his name on the BC, and give it your surname. This isn't a relationship that is likely to last.

Feelallright · 07/12/2022 14:39

You need to leave him now. If he doesn’t get it and you’ve explained -not that you should have to -there will be no changing him. He’s abusive and uncaring about you, and no doubt the baby as well.

Ponderingwindow · 07/12/2022 14:39

I would leave him. He is taking money from you by expecting you to care for his child for free. If you explained the problem to the point of spreadsheets and he still doesn’t understand then he is a bad person. I’m sorry you are tied to him for life by sharing a child. That doesn’t mean you have to suffer living with someone like that.

Babyroobs · 07/12/2022 14:41

This is quite a shocking post to be honest and if I were you I would run a mile right now because it won't get any better. You should be a partnership in all senses especially now you are having a child. What kind of man watches his pregnant wife work 12 hours shifts whilst he earns twice as much as you? Just shocking.

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