Meghan markle ny times article

[stronglikemytea]

Does anyone else find it refreshing to finally see people in the public eye using their platforms to raise awareness on such raw issues?

Two weeks ago i miscarried. And in all honesty i felt so alienated as everyone around you seems to be going for scans or giving birth and your sat wondering why me?

To wake up to read an article written by a woman who has come away from such a strict establishment and speak up about such a heartbreaking experience i find quite comforting and that it is OKAY to speak about such a painful loss.
To think that even though these people who are open to the world and ripped to shreds by the media and trolls, we must remember are still human.

After reading meghans article i am heartbroken for the couple as knowing that same feeling is something i will never forget also. But at the same time i am grateful that she has opened up and made it clear we need to talk more.

For anyone who has miscarried/loss or going through a hard time, you are amazing and strong do not ever think any different xxx

@gingganggooleywotsit

I wish *@HebeMumsnet* would just take the whole thread down

Yes so do I It's not a shining example of humanity

@Iwillneverbesatisfied

Kate wouldn't do that. That's the point, as I mentioned above. She'd be criticised by me just the same if she did (but she wouldn't).

Also, no one is MC bashing. It's the article we are criticising.

Kate isn’t a smart woman as Meghan though, is she? So 🤷🏻‍♀️

FWIW I personally think that calling it "unbearable" grief is extremely unhelpful. It is not unbearable. We have been through it, it was horrible, maybe even, if you had a very bad recactin, "inimaginable", but not unbearable. To label something that millions of women go through and DO bear, through their own strength, and maybe the support of others, as "unbearable" is just wrong.

This is such a nasty post 🤮

And I believe what she actually said was ‘almost unbearable’

@PumpernickelThanksgiving

Kate isn’t a smart woman as Meghan though, is she? So 🤷🏻‍♀️

And yet somehow Kate will be Queen Consort of England instead of having to flog her personal tragedy for cash or publicity. Who is “smart” really?

Sometime “smart” is knowing when to shut up. And bringing Breonna Taylor, George Floyd and “threw my hair into a pony tail” into a sad medical issue many women have suffered lacks basic dignity.

Errrmmm... how is that an achievement really? And if that is an achievement, what the fuck is wrong with MM? You sound utterly lost and confused.

@PumpernickelThanksgiving

Kate isn’t a smart woman as Meghan though, is she? So 🤷🏻‍♀️

And yet somehow Kate will be Queen Consort of England instead of having to flog her personal tragedy for cash or publicity. Who is “smart” really?

Sometime “smart” is knowing when to shut up. And bringing Breonna Taylor, George Floyd and “threw my hair into a pony tail” into a sad medical issue many women have suffered lacks basic dignity.

Did we read different articles? Because the article I read was about people's losses. And asking if they are OK. Not just miscarriages.

Also, it’s a bit shit of you to expect that MM shuts up when she can actually make a difference. You know, like she did for OP.

Thanks @HebeMumsnet.

I think those reflections also show how miscarriages are seen by many people. Something to hide and get over with. Not something you are allowed to grieve for, especially if it’s early in pregnancy.
End result mind that many women are heartbroken about it:(

I often wish people could show a bit more compassion by just reminding themselves that because they react in a certain way (or think they wouod react...) it doesn’t mean that someone else who reacts in a different way is wrong.....

I lost my son's twin to miscarriage and think it's helpful to break down the barriers to discussing this including the dogma about keeping a pregnancy quiet until the second trimester (I'm not criticising those who choose this just the reasons why this is so normal). Her writing style is sickly and awful though and I'd rather she stuck to fact sharing rather than trying to be inspirational as this is nothing but and will turn people off the actual idea being discussing. Ending with 'we will be' is just truly awful. Some of us really won't be. She can't be naïve enough not to know that, surely?

Good grief... I said I fekt sympathy for them but thought they had said only one child... Due to environmental concerns.
And post got deleted... Yet others can say Kate is stupid and that's OK and not a personal attack...

They said no more than two children, not one.

Please do explain how having a miscarriage is attention seeking?

And how speaking about it is self-pitying?

@Theredjellybean

Good grief... I said I fekt sympathy for them but thought they had said only one child... Due to environmental concerns. And post got deleted... Yet others can say Kate is stupid and that's OK and not a personal attack...

It seems there are two lunatic fringes that try to derail these threads, each as unpleasant as the other. Most posters are more moderate and just trying to discuss the affairs of the day calmly.

You could go the whole hog and also explain why you think its okay to make such comments about someone's loss and resulting grief?

If the couple genuinely want a private life

Once again, they never said this. I’m just going to keep posting that and one day, maybe, it might sink in.

Millions of women suffer miscarriage and could do a much better job of writing about it.

Maybe, maybe not. The NYT is unlikely to be interested in publishing it though, thus missing the awareness raising point.

I can see why the other poster said trolls are out in force on every MM article.

@Thewithesarehere

I can see why the other poster said trolls are out in force on every MM article.

You’re just as bad. The comment you made about Kate Cambridge was nasty and uncalled for.

There is a supportive discussion to be had here about miscarriage and secrecy if you and your counterparts would only knock it off.

@Gancanny

Please do explain how having a miscarriage is attention seeking?

It's Meghan, she was being attacked on here the other week for wearing a coat, I shit you not. Have you ever seen a miscarriage thread turn as ugly, moralistic, judgemental and spiteful as the ones about hers? Two of them have had to be taken down and this one probably hasn't got much longer. She talks about her miscarriage in the wrong way, she timed it to take a swipe at Will and Kate, she's lying about it, she should just hole up and be invisible about it, she's attention seeking (God, the MN obsession with women who don't wish to be invisible and silent), she's not really upset, she's too upset, she takes on causes that affect her which better humans don't do, dear God it's relentless.

You can usually rely on MN to be sensitive and understanding about pregnancy and baby loss, but when it's Meghan, nothing is sacred. Just permanent open season.

Once again, they never said this. I’m just going to keep posting that and one day, maybe, it might sink in.

We could get it projected on the side of the Palace of Westminster, it won't make any difference.

You can usually rely on MN to be sensitive and understanding about pregnancy and baby loss, but when it's Meghan, nothing is sacred. Just permanent open season.

The attitudes towards her remind me of several of my in-laws. Everything was absolutely great until the wedding was announced and suddenly I was considered a manipulative bitch who was stealing their precious boy, it got even worse when I was pregnant and the prevailing view was that I well and truly had my hooks into DH now that I'd locked him in for the next eighteen years. I can well understand why Meghan and Harry stepped back and moved to the US, that sort of atmosphere is toxic.

Thank you for the poster who said they said two children.. I genuinely thought they said one.
It doesn't matter either way.. Many of us start of with a number in. Mind and change that after baby number one.
They are perfectly entitled too and perfectly entitled to their grief.. Its horrid and Megan is perfectly entitled to write about it.
I never said she was attention seeking.
I was surprised to have what I thought was a reasonably balanced post deleted when other posters attacking other members of the RF seemed fine...