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Meghan markle ny times article

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stronglikemytea · 25/11/2020 10:13

Does anyone else find it refreshing to finally see people in the public eye using their platforms to raise awareness on such raw issues?

Two weeks ago i miscarried. And in all honesty i felt so alienated as everyone around you seems to be going for scans or giving birth and your sat wondering why me?

To wake up to read an article written by a woman who has come away from such a strict establishment and speak up about such a heartbreaking experience i find quite comforting and that it is OKAY to speak about such a painful loss.
To think that even though these people who are open to the world and ripped to shreds by the media and trolls, we must remember are still human.

After reading meghans article i am heartbroken for the couple as knowing that same feeling is something i will never forget also. But at the same time i am grateful that she has opened up and made it clear we need to talk more.

For anyone who has miscarried/loss or going through a hard time, you are amazing and strong do not ever think any different xxx

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thedudesmummy · 25/11/2020 12:28

I wish only the best to Harry and Meghan, and applaud her for highlighting the issue and the frequently silent nature of the suffering. But, like other posters, I wish she had done it without the overblown and emotionally cloying language frankly. It would have been much better. I love that she did this, but absolutely hated the actual article.

I had three mcs in my 40s, before I had a baby, by the way. All the signs were that I would never have a baby. It was very otionally difficult. I get that completely. But I would not have written about it, if I had written about it, in this way.

ivfbeenbusy · 25/11/2020 12:29

I've had 5 miscarriages myself so I completely understand the loss she's going through BUT......

The language she has used quite frankly made me cringe....it's so overdone and is quite obviously written for the media. It's not a personal statement on loss and it comes across as quite disingenuous

(I'm not an Meghan hater I'm just being honest)

stronglikemytea · 25/11/2020 12:29

I am disgusted and horrified at the comments on here.
This thread was created through the thought of being encouraged to speak up about mc.
For women to know they are not alone.
People deal with experiences differently.

I for one hope this thread gets deleted now.
Some people truly are nasty.

And i hope the individuals hiding behind a phone/keyboard never have to endure such cruelness like they are projecting on such a heartbreaking experience.

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ElspethFlashman · 25/11/2020 12:31

I actually preferred Chris's Teigens writing even though she's not a writer, because it was kinda raw and imperfect as if she had just dashed it off in a stream of dreadful consciousness.

I found it incredibly affecting.

Mcnotty · 25/11/2020 12:31

Miscarriage at her age is sadly extremely common almost to be expected though.

Lovely backhanded sympathies if there ever was one. So they should have ‘expected it’. Bearing in mind her ever so advanced age, which is....100! Just how low can you get?

SoulofanAggron · 25/11/2020 12:31

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ThatsMeChickenArm · 25/11/2020 12:31

Why do so many people seem to hate MM so much? I don't really understand it.

CandyLeBonBon · 25/11/2020 12:32

Op apart from the offensive posts which have bow been deleted, what are you finding cruel? People have been generally supportive that the article is good in raising awareness and promoting discussion. But apart from a few bits on unpleasantness I don't think people have been cruel?

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MarchionessofActon · 25/11/2020 12:33

The majority have treated the thread in the spirit it was intended, OP HmmConfused

SoupDragon · 25/11/2020 12:33

Wrong quote. I don't agree with that.

stairway · 25/11/2020 12:33

SleepingStandingUp, going for two pregnancies when you are almost 37 makes a miscarriage highly probable and much more likely then just a 20 percent risk. Maybe mentioning age and miscarriage risk is the real controversy. I’m glad she wrote that article as it highlights the pain of miscarriage.

thedudesmummy · 25/11/2020 12:33

FWIW I personally think that calling it "unbearable" grief is extremely unhelpful. It is not unbearable. We have been through it, it was horrible, maybe even, if you had a very bad recactin, "inimaginable", but not unbearable. To label something that millions of women go through and DO bear, through their own strength, and maybe the support of others, as "unbearable" is just wrong.

AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 25/11/2020 12:35

@stronglikemytea I realised I never actually said before how much I agree with every word of your OP- I think it's very important for us to share these experiences so that we can learn from each other and support each other. I hope you have been getting lots of support in real life as you navigate all this. Very best wishes for your recovery and healing Flowers

HebeMumsnet · 25/11/2020 12:35

Afternoon, everyone.

Firstly, OP, we're so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. It's a horrible, unfair thing to happen to anyone and we hope you're doing ok.

We think this thread has veered wildly into a direction we'd rather it hadn't, and this seems grossly unfair to the OP, for whom it's something of a personal thread as well as one about someone in the public eye.

We have the utmost sympathy for anyone who has gone through a miscarriage, and as a parenting website whose main aim is to offer support to all parents, we don't think there's any place for 'buts' or negative speculation on a thread like this. We've had to delete many posts from this thread that weren't made in that spirit of support and sympathy we hope to foster. Some deleted posts were outright trolling of the sort we regularly see on threads about the Duchess of Sussex.

We're going to temporarily close this thread to new posts. We'll open it again later and we hope that when we do so we can draw a bit of a line under it and get the thread back on track.

Sorry for the hiatus in your thread, OP. Hopefully we can get it started again in a more positive fashion later.

MarchionessofActon · 25/11/2020 12:35

thedudesmummy that’s the first thing I said when reading the article god morning. If it was unbearable, you’d not be able to function and die of the unbearableness.

I bore it, it was horrible, but I still had to go out to work and get on with my life, it was not unbearable.

SoulofanAggron · 25/11/2020 12:35

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PrincessNutNut · 25/11/2020 12:36

I am truly sorry for anyone who has had a miscarriage, but I intensely dislike the comments along the lines of "I wouldn't have chosen to speak about my losses like this, so Meghan is morally wrong for how she's chosen to do it because it's attention seeking (God, the MN obsession with that)/bad writing/whatever".

Surely people must see that an important part of this is allowing women to speak about their losses in whatever way they prefer?

HopeMumsnet · 25/11/2020 14:35

Hi all,
We have re-opened the thread now; please could we ask everyone to bear in mind that this has been posted on the Miscarriage board and to post accordingly.
@stronglikemytea we can see that we rather cross-posted earlier and that you had requested this thread be removed. If our intervention to get things back on track doesn't work we are happy to do that for you, please just press "Report" on this message and we will organise that.
Peace and love everyone, as OliviaMN used to say a very long time ago..

ThatsMeChickenArm · 25/11/2020 15:03

@thedudesmummy

FWIW I personally think that calling it "unbearable" grief is extremely unhelpful. It is not unbearable. We have been through it, it was horrible, maybe even, if you had a very bad recactin, "inimaginable", but not unbearable. To label something that millions of women go through and DO bear, through their own strength, and maybe the support of others, as "unbearable" is just wrong.
She never said unbearable, she said almost unbearable.
CleverCatty · 25/11/2020 15:13

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CleverCatty · 25/11/2020 15:15

@PrincessNutNut

I am truly sorry for anyone who has had a miscarriage, but I intensely dislike the comments along the lines of "I wouldn't have chosen to speak about my losses like this, so Meghan is morally wrong for how she's chosen to do it because it's attention seeking (God, the MN obsession with that)/bad writing/whatever".

Surely people must see that an important part of this is allowing women to speak about their losses in whatever way they prefer?

Have you ever had a miscarriage PrincessNutNut?

I have and then someone else called me a mum on another thread - I'm actually not, and highly doubtful to become one now, lots of assumptions flying about here.

My miscarriage was awful but I was in a toxic marriage at the time so on the one hand I felt slightly relieved but on the other hand felt terribly guilty for feeling relieved that I hadn't brought a baby into an unhappy marriage with no hope of salvaging that marriage.

PrincessNutNut · 25/11/2020 15:23

Have you ever had a miscarriagePrincessNutNut?

You know...I was going to answer that question, and answer it honestly, but given this nasty context of trying to justify attacking women for how they choose to talk about it by suggesting they might be lying, I've changed my mind, and I'm not going to tell you. You can think about that.

Whether I have or not shouldn't make any difference at all to my point that women should be allowed to discuss their losses in any way they like. If it's not how you prefer to think of yours, you are free to read something else.

PirateCatQueen · 25/11/2020 15:25

Miscarriage shaming is the new dog whistle.

Low. And by low I mean racist.

MarchionessofActon · 25/11/2020 15:27

I just read about Gemma Collins...hasn’t been aware of that one. Christ.....And I’m not proud of myself for being that sceptical.