Meghan markle ny times article

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Does anyone else find it refreshing to finally see people in the public eye using their platforms to raise awareness on such raw issues?

Two weeks ago i miscarried. And in all honesty i felt so alienated as everyone around you seems to be going for scans or giving birth and your sat wondering why me?

To wake up to read an article written by a woman who has come away from such a strict establishment and speak up about such a heartbreaking experience i find quite comforting and that it is OKAY to speak about such a painful loss.
To think that even though these people who are open to the world and ripped to shreds by the media and trolls, we must remember are still human.

After reading meghans article i am heartbroken for the couple as knowing that same feeling is something i will never forget also. But at the same time i am grateful that she has opened up and made it clear we need to talk more.

For anyone who has miscarried/loss or going through a hard time, you are amazing and strong do not ever think any different xxx

@PirateCatQueen

Miscarriage shaming is the new dog whistle.

Low. And by low I mean racist.

I've been holding off saying it, but I've seen some of Meghan's most vocal detractors complaining about BLM and that Diversity dance.

Oh, god, prepare for a flurry of highly offended racists now

@unmarkedbythat

Oh, god, prepare for a flurry of highly offended racists now

Sorry.

OP, I am sorry about your miscarriage.

To wake up to read an article written by a woman who has come away from such a strict establishment and speak up about such a heartbreaking experience i find quite comforting and that it is OKAY to speak about such a painful loss.

Sophie has also spoken about her ectopic pregnancy and Zara about her two miscarriages, with one being very much in the public eye at the time it happened because her pregnancy had been announced. It’s also comforting and okay to hear from those still in a strict establishment - as well as celebrities and those in the public eye.

I think part of the problem is that what is a comfort to one person will be crass and uncomfortable to another. For every person who reads it and identifies with her and feels some sort of comfort there will be another who has done there best to get on with their life and doesn't want to be reminded about it and got upset on hearing about it on every news broadcast.

Even when things are new and raw some people won't want to hear, "Are you OK" as it can make them breakdown when they want to hold it together. I don't think there is one right way to deal with this sort of thing.

When I started to bleed and realised I was having an early miscarriage my GP said go home and go to bed and don't get up for anything other than to go to the bathroom. I said, a bit naive, will that make everything OK? She replied that it probably wouldn't make a difference but that she was concerned about my mental health and if it happened she didn't want me agonising afterwards that I could have done something differently. Now some people might not have liked that, it was the right thing to say to me. Everyone is different.

I do wonder if the sudden 'Going Public' is to garner public sympathy?

Do you think the same about Zara Phillips who also spoke about her miscarriages?

Edir: Predictive , Should be ''Allude'' not ''Allied''.

No idea why it’s considered low to say a miscarriage is likely at 39, when it is. How can people discuss miscarriage when people are overly sensitive. I’m pregnant at the moment and realise there was a high risk of early miscarriage compared to when I was younger. I do think starting a family later in life it is important to consider it might not be easy. I wouldn’t say this to her if she was my friend of course but if we are discussing miscarriage like now I don’t see the problem.

@SoupDragon

I do wonder if the sudden 'Going Public' is to garner public sympathy?

Do you think the same about Zara Phillips who also spoke about her miscarriages?

In fairness, Zara’s first miscarriage followed a public announcement that she was pregnant and would be giving birth the following year. To not speak up and say she had miscarried would have led to all kinds of questions when it became apparent she wasn’t pregnant.

@stairway

No idea why it’s considered low to say a miscarriage is likely at 39, when it is. How can people discuss miscarriage when people are overly sensitive. I’m pregnant at the moment and realise there was a high risk of early miscarriage compared to when I was younger. I do think starting a family later in life it is important to consider it might not be easy. I wouldn’t say this to her if she was my friend of course but if we are discussing miscarriage like now I don’t see the problem.

Very true. Our eggs are as old {or as young} as we are, unlike men's gametes. It is just Nature's way. Does seem unfair though. We just evolved this way.

A friend was appalled to be considered an ''Elderly Primagravida'' at 27 yrs! {It was in the late 1980's}. I was shocked, too. 27 is in no way 'Elderly'.

@lazarusb

Sorry for your loss We lost our first baby 21 years ago yesterday. No-one remembers but me. It's about time parents felt more able to talk about how hard miscarriage is and for it not to be seen as normal and something just to be gotten over and forgotten.

That is incredibly Poignant. Babies should be remembered and honoured. I wonder if your relatives also remember, but don't mention it?

Dear God this place is an utter cess pit sometimes

@CandyLeBonBon

Fair play to her for opening up. I've had 2 miscarriages and it was devastating at the time. But I have to be honest, I find the writing style of that article a bit , I don't know, cloying? Written for intense dramatic effect? I can't put my finger on why I don't like it. And it's nothing to do with MM. I am completely neutral where she and H are concerned. I just read it and all felt a bit 'treacly'? Maybe I'm just dead inside!? 😂

They’d do better to leave the writing (online content/ speeches/ articles) to the professionals, definitely. I’m sure there are comms consultants everywhere who are watching and would live to help them.

Regardless of that, it’s a sad story. Miscarriage is always a hard thing to go through.

No idea why my post was deleted. I don't think commenting on the language in the article is a breach of talk guidelines. I stand by my point that some of the language and phrasing that was written in the article seemed 'overly dramatic' and 'flowery.'

some very cold, cruel bastards posting on this thread

Take a good look in the mirror some of you and ask yourself why you enjoy being so nasty about a woman you don’t know.

@GroundAlmonds I absolutely agree. It's a heartbreaking thing to deal with.

Hi there Ginger.

We felt that picking apart a woman's response to, and way of dealing with, her own miscarriage wasn't really in the spirit of what we're trying to do here.

We appreciate that it's a case of different strokes for different folks but on this topic it feels a bit much and calling someone 'overly dramatic' feels a bit mean in this context, we think. This is after all, the loss of a child we are talking about, and not a choice of dress or holiday destination.

We have millions of women here every day who have suffered miscarriages, and we think whether you want to keep it to yourself or rage about it publicly, or anything in between... that's all ok. We wouldn't want to dictate the terms by which any person in the public eye spoke about their miscarriage and we wouldn't want any Mumsnetter or passing lurker to be made to think their own feelings weren't valid as a result of that sort of criticism of someone in the public eye, either.

Hope that explains some of the deletions a bit.

I wish that could happen. Unfortunately, the absolute dislike of her and him is too deeply ingrained, it's just an unpleasant habit now for some.

When this story broke today I was watching some news programme or other and for a brief moment I thought 'no one is going to pile on them for this surely....'
That brief moment lasted no time before I thought 'here we go again, they are going to be annihilated by some people, just because it's them'...

@HebeMumsnet

Hi there Ginger.

We felt that picking apart a woman's response to, and way of dealing with, her own miscarriage wasn't really in the spirit of what we're trying to do here.

We appreciate that it's a case of different strokes for different folks but on this topic it feels a bit much and calling someone 'overly dramatic' feels a bit mean in this context, we think. This is after all, the loss of a child we are talking about, and not a choice of dress or holiday destination.

We have millions of women here every day who have suffered miscarriages, and we think whether you want to keep it to yourself or rage about it publicly, or anything in between... that's all ok. We wouldn't want to dictate the terms by which any person in the public eye spoke about their misarriage and we wouldn't want any Mumsnetter or passing lurker to be made to think their own feelings weren't valid as a result of that sort of criticism of someone in the public eye, either.

Hope that explains some of the deletions a bit.

I didn't say 'she' was over dramatic, I said the 'language' was over dramatic. But hey ho.

[quote Plmoknijb123]@Sparklingbrook kind of like the royals..to raise awareness of issues but not publicise themselves. I’m sure people disagree with me but that’s just my opinion.[/quote]
One of the most ridiculous things I have heard on mumsnet in a long long time.

I wish @HebeMumsnet would just take the whole thread down