Recurrent miscarriage support, tests, treatments and trying again.

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Buckle up, the threads move like lightening! Tea, sympathy, information, support and combined wisdom to guide you through the maze of testing and treatment for recurrent miscarriage. Newbies always most welcome.

Please start with the traditional recap of your stats.

Am all weepy. Totally realise it's the anaesthetic but just upset about my babies and there being no reason for the losses. Struggling to get my head round that

But I have to pull myself out of it and realise next time could be different

Loopy I am another one that can recommend acupuncture.

I know you are Worcestershire but if Solihull isn't too far, the guy I use is called Michael Gorman and he is fab!!!!

DP just given me a huge cuddle and I was sobbing. Bloody anaesthetic

Good luck flen. Sorry you and jady still feel rubbish.

Brummie - like others said - there wasn't "no reason" but it's not one they understand. Hormone reasons seem to be common, and poorly understood. But they do know that the scratch, the Coventry protocol, being monitored and cared for in early pregnancy and just plain old better luck can make all the difference. Fingers crossed it will for you too. xxxxxxxxxx

Oh brummie we're all giving you a virtual hug too. You've dotted the i's, crossed the t's, Coventry is on your side, next time is your time! Keep believing, lovely!

loopy another acupuncture fan. Mine is a great listener too. Sorted my cycles and, I think, got ov back on track and is the reason I've been pg the last two times. If only acupuncture could reverse egg aging! Definitely worth looking for someone who specialises in fertility- mine has links with the fertility clinic and is pretty well up on new things and the major MC docs ideas.

flen good luck tomorrow. Keeping everything crossed for you to add to the list of bfps. Xx

Fingers crossed for testing tomorrow flen. You've had such amazing patience to wait this long. X

How is my cycle mate feeling cheesy? Are you using opk? Think you're a couple of days ahead of me so you must be virtually there. Hand holding for the next two and a bit weeks

brummie hugs for getting through today.

cheesy no I haven't yet, but survived getting home from my parents in one piece and successfully managed my day's training today in London. The spotting seems to have stopped today. Trying not to focus too much on what anything means. Dh has booked me a private scan next Wednesday. Still plan to call epu tomorrow to enquire about containers and testing in case I mc over the bank holiday weekend which to be honest is my kind of luck!

Did find myself trying to brainwash myself that it's over on the train on the way home. Self protection madness or what.

flen fingers crossed for in the morning.

I have a question to those of you that have had to give yourselves injections - where abouts on yourself do/did you use to inject yourself? God that's a poorly worded question. My brain is fried from acoustics. So far we've been using my tummy but I think it needs a rest. Any recommendations?

Thanks all. I really appreciate all the really kind supportive words. You are all wonderful. The tears have stopped and I'm just exhausted now.

DP is making me an old school tea. Sausage chips and beans.

Flen will be keeping everything crossed for you tomorrow. Come on BFP!!!!!!

MrsD glad the spotting has slowed down a bit. Thinking of you.

Hope all the other BFP'ers are ok.

Just how are you and miniJust?

brummie your tea sounds like just what the doctor ordered. To be washed down with chocolate, rubbishy telly and a big hug. Well done for getting through today.

mrsD I just used my tummy, alternating sites, but you can use the front of your thighs.

flen fingers crossed!

brummie sounds like perfect comfort food . Hope you're feeling much better tomorrow .

mrsd I alternated sides with the injections as well, and all the way around the belly button in between!

I think I finally ovulated. On cd22. It will be interesting to see when AF arrives. I'm definitely going to give angus castus a go to see if it does anything, just need to get the nk cells test out of the way first.

Thanks Baking so glad Faith is doing a bit better and stopped fitting. Scary times for you both

I would recommend it barking If you think you might have low progesterone or a short lp. Might do nothing but got to be worth a try? I still wonder if it is what made the difference for me x

march yes I'm using opks and got a flashing smiley this morning. My app says due to ovulate fri which I think I'm on track with. Where abouts are you? How are you feeling? I feel a bit irritable which is not usual for me during this time of month, think it's the anxiety about trying again and potentially going through another loss.

Something strange (and a bit upsetting) has happened, I've just had a bath and my boobs started leaking colostrum...wtf??!! Could understand if I was pg or just miscarried but not several months after...it's like my boobs have forgotten my baby didn't make it and I should be feeding a newborn now.
Is this normal to happen just before ovulation or has anyone else had this?
Thanks in advance x

Hmm. Not had that before cheesy. Maybe it's just your body gearing up for your bfp . I can make colostrum come out if I squeeze though (sorry if tmi!)

Exciting to get a smiley. I expect mine some time between Friday and Sunday and nervous about covering it as I'm really not sure when.
I'm feeling very weepy today. Got an email from friend who is due next month, a week before the limpet was due. She was so nice and asking how i was etc, but a little voice in my head kept shouting 'its not fair!' Not about her having her baby, but about me not having one. Completely alienated myself from two very good friends and I hate it

Had a massive catch up. Phew!

Wowzers for the BFPs, and possibly more on the way? Jady that was definitely a line. Well done you!

I knew we were due some, and that there'd be some busy bunnies after Coventry was being overrun last month...

Brummie, so pleased it's over and your ducks are well lined. Hope you sleep really well tonight and feel less teary in the morning.

Flen, very exciting!

MrsD, glad to hear the spotting has eased. Really hope that is all it is...

Injection sites.. I alternated sides of my belly, staying well away from my bellybutton and sticking to the fattest bit.

Baking thank you for the update on Faith. She is often in my thoughts.

DS2 has croup. Not nice poor lamb.

Thanks for your reassurance. In the middle of the night I thought I ought to just make a clean break and leave DH. Not that anything is truly dreadful, we just seem to be living like roommates and I can't even begin to talk to him about it. Horrible feeling.

Off to comfort DS2 again...

March It was mainly when I squeezed too!
It's so hard getting over the 'not fair' feeling but actually it's true I suppose, so you shouldn't have to get over it. Especially when the due dates are similar, it's extra painful.
Hopefully with time it will get easier with your friends and you'll get that closeness again.
Hope you get your smiley this weekend and it all stays on track.

A few of you mentioned that headspace app which I have also started using and find it really helps me to relax, do thanks for suggesting (Sasha?). X

tanny oh no, I hope poor Bertie recovers soon. I have 'mad' thoughts in the middle of the night too. I think sometimes our hormones are just fucked up and it makes us think irrationally (well, does me anyway). And a newborn baby definately makes things more stressful, especially after your rollercoaster of a journey to get him. It's bound to take its toll on you both. X

Waves tanny. Sorry you're having a tough time. I often wonder what it'll be like when every thought isn't taken up by pregnancy, miscarriage and babies and I sort of have this rose tinted view that everything will be wonderful once i have a baby. So I have to remind myself that there will be something else that's not perfect after this, that life is just like that, or i think I'm going to be in for a big shock. Hopefully this is just the stress of the last few years coming out, along with the worry of a new baby (and croup!) Things will get better. X

Tanny Hugs. Try to take some of the pressure off yourself. Romance and laughter will come back, you just don't have the headspace for it right now. Xx

Hey thete brummie** you soynd a little more up than earlier, as tanny says - ducks in a row now!
Tanny** remember your hormones will be all over, and you wont be getting much sleep. Sometimes married life is simply being housemates that share a morgage, isn't it?!

March it's funny you say that, I read an article last year about women who have gone through long term infertility (and I think the theory works for rmc before dc #1) being more prone to postnatal depression. It's like all the years of pain have finally built up to this wonderful event and baby arrives and everything is perfect. Only it isn't, because having a newborn is hard, but it's taken so long to get there they haven't dared consider that bit.

Bugger lost a long post thanks to flaky wifi, grrr!

Thinking of you so much flen, brummie and MrsD. Tough days, calling for so much courage. These sound like times to shorten your horizons, from weeks to days to hours. Lots of hand holding here.

Hugs too for everyone struggling, some day we'll all look back on this phase of life.

I'm a bit confused (again!) here - struggling with my third horrid dose of thrush which I never had before this year. Could it be connected to mcs?? Cause or effect? Then, today AF arrived, 24 day cycle - argh surely that's too short?

It's just compounding the feeling I no longer understand my body ... Or maybe I'm just scared as this is my second AF since my ectopic, which is when we planned to start ttc again (ha ha naively I thought my body would feel my own again by then. Silly girl).

Evening all, I'll be brief as I'm knackered, having gone back to work today (I think my days may be numbered there in the nicest possible way - they are being really supportive, but obviously every is worried about me and miniJust. I'm OK, and so is miniJust but mat might need to be sooner than I planned.)
Brummie, sorry you're feeling down, hopefully a good nights sleep will help, and you'll get your bfp soon.

Tanny, I'm sure its the hormones, sleep deprivation and stress. Hang in there and hugs.

Waves and hugs to everyone. xx

Good luck tomorrow flen

brummie glad it's all done but sorry you're feeling low - it's just so hard and you've been through a lot but you've now done everything you can.

March thanks for doing the new stats and including me!

congats Erica and Jady on the BFPs! That's a great start to the new thread!

Extrablessings I'm so sorry to hear of your latest mc. You've had 6 -just makes me so sad for you. Your luck has just got to change soon, it must. I'm willing it to!

Mrsd glad the spotting has subsided now and really hope it's just implantation bleeding.

Biscuits I'm so interested in your theory about not being able to carry boys as I've had a DS and three losses since him. Also my hubby's family is really bloke heavy- their sperm is biased I think! Wondering if all three could have been boys.

Brummie It's so natural you'd be feeling down knowing that everything is 'fine'. It just leaves you in a state of limbo not having an explanation. Mr Shehata told me that he thinks there are a lot of immune problems that have yet to be discovered. I'm hoping if I keep miscarrying he'll try me on steroids just in case I'm in that category.

Sasha I took clomid last month as I don't ovulate regularly. You should be monitored by a scan on days 11-13 to see what's happening with your follicles. They scanned me and I had grown a cyst which can be very dangerous if it bursts. So they've taken me off it this month. I did get pregnant on it though, but I had an early loss.

MrsC I didn't realise your ectopic was so recent. Mine was nearly 5 years ago and it still haunts me. Can't believe my body got it THAT wrong The thing that helped me start trying again was that you have a 90 percent chance that the next pregnancy will be in the right place. Those odds are pretty good. I've been pregnant 5 times since mine and no further ectopics.

Loving all the positivity about acupuncture as I'm taking the plunge and my first session is tomorrow!