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Recurrent Miscarriage Support Thread - Thread 17 - Tests, treatment and trying again

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Flower29 · 05/02/2015 12:28

Information, support, hand holding, tea, sympathy and a hell of a lot of combined knowledge - all welcome as we try to make sense of the RMC roller coaster of tests, NHS admin, heart ache and (hopefully) happy endings!
Please start with a recap of your stats Smile

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Justonemoretime · 13/02/2015 07:36

Sorry, I'm an idiot. I meant Twilight, not March, although I'm thinking of you, March, too. Hope you're OK? Blush

Marchgirl · 13/02/2015 07:46

Bleeding has started in earnest this morning. Had forgotten blocked from my memory how horrible it is. Hoping it's not going to be much more than a heavy, slightly clotty AF, as we're off to the zoo today with dd, dsis and my three nephews. Huge row with dh yesterday and very little sleep last night and just want to curl up in bed. At least the end is in sight

Justonemoretime · 13/02/2015 07:48

Sad hugs to you March. Look after yourself.

Catlover2014 · 13/02/2015 07:52

Feel your pain flen thrush blights my life! Natural bio yoghurt can help to soothe it. I dip on a tampon and put up there (when not pregnant of course) xxx

Catlover2014 · 13/02/2015 07:54

Thinking of you march even when it's upsetting. Remember to be kind to yourself and only do what you feel up to and well enough to do. Hope you and DH make up soon. Hugs x

Catlover2014 · 13/02/2015 07:55

Doh! Meant to say even when it's early it's upsetting. X

girliesaints · 13/02/2015 08:06

Big hugs March x

bootles · 13/02/2015 08:20

Oh march, what is your DH playing at getting into a row with you at the moment? I could be reading it all wrong, but is your DH one of those who gets upset/feels helpless, and expresses it in row-like/difficult behaviour? Are you planning on telling your dsis? It sounds like you need some support. I hope you get through the day, sending hugs x

bootles · 13/02/2015 08:25

girlie my NHS tests showed nothing, and I was advised to just try again. I had another loss doing that, which was chromosomally normal, so then went to Coventry. It is scary stuff when you try again.I just try to be philosophical (which obviously doesn't really work all the time - but I try).

tannyLoo · 13/02/2015 08:45

March, you poor love. I echo Bootles, you need support and understanding so you can curl up with a hot water bottle. Even if you discount the emotions, it is physically draining, and a day at the zoo sounds like an exhausting one. Big hugs xxx

Sunandrainbow · 13/02/2015 09:09

Hello to all.

Just a quick message to girlie - my nhs response was - just try again with no protocol. It was only when I asked if I could try progesterone / heparin that they agreed to this. They wouldn't have offered it proactively and did say they didn't think it would help, but would be willing to prescribe it?! x

Flen · 13/02/2015 09:12

March hugs to you. Take it as gently as you can.

longestlurkerever · 13/02/2015 09:16

Hello!

Girlie I wasn't prescribed anything after clear tests either and my consultant refused the progesterone and metformin that i asked about (Metformin can be used to treat PCOS but my consultant said it wouldn't help me as my insulin levels were normal). It was only after I saw a different dr at St Mary's for my 8 week scan that he put me on progesterone and increased folic acid but I was already past my danger point by then. I had been taking agnus castus with my consultant's permission, which is supposed to boost progesterone, but I don't know whether it was that that made the difference. Good luck with your appointment!

Flen boo to thrush. You can get a pessary that is supposed to work overnight, along with a cream, though recently I've been given the three day course as it keeps returning. There are also tablets you can take if not pregnant.

Cat are you feeling any better? Your bug sounds awful, you poor thing.

March - I am sorry you are feeling so low. I hope you manage to have a nice time with your dsis. Please tell her how you're feeling. Putting on a brave face is ridiculously stressful.

Great you can join us just - as I said, I am easy as to day so whatever suits you and tiny.

Jady - glad counselling is going well.

Catlover2014 · 13/02/2015 09:58

Hi longest what I've always wondered is if the internal cream / pessary treatment somehow interrupts the sperm from getting to where it needs to be? I was often too scared to treat around ovulation so would do it straight after AF had stopped.

I'm feeling a bit better today thanks but still quite tough. Mainly I'm just worried about the baby but there are no GP appointments today and as I'm not 24 weeks they won't put me on monitors at triage.

Catlover2014 · 13/02/2015 09:59

*rough not tough

longestlurkerever · 13/02/2015 10:06

I don't know cat - I only really suffer with it in pregnancy. If flen used the pessary today though she could be clear of it by ov day.

You do sound tough cat! Has anyone reassured you about the chance of it harming the baby? My triage is from 18 weeks and I think they would at least do a listen. Rubbish you can't be seen though - do they not do same day appointments for urgent care? I never know what they mean by urgent as if it was an emergency you'd be at A&E but I think they mean anything that can't wait till a routine appointment and if you're feeling awful and need antibiotics that counts.

Catlover2014 · 13/02/2015 10:31

Good point!! TTC is really impossible with thrush anyway. I have It all the time and it makes sex so sore Confused

Not sure about triage. I called last night and she told me as I'm not 24 weeks and no mc symptoms that I have to see my GP. Typically GP receptionist said no appointments when I called the clinic this morning. I have my scan Monday so going to try and wait it out. X

ourdaywillcome1983 · 13/02/2015 10:57

Hi ladies, still cant read through the thread - i know thats horrible as i might be missing someone and i dont want to seem insensitive but i am more nervous than i have ever been in my entire life - i just cant control it, my head just needs to be in the sand.
I have a question if thats OK, when have you taken progesterone up until? I cant remember what my consultant said, could it do harm to stay on it too long? Do they actually monitor and measure your prog after? I am terrified of leaving anything to chance.
I dont want to feel scared anymore but its so impossible :(
Sorry its all me me me, i so wish i could read through the thread but everything scares me. Sorry that sounds really stupid. I havent even been googling - darent.

longestlurkerever · 13/02/2015 11:12

ourday I am sorry you are so nervous. How many weeks are you now? I took progesterone till 13 weeks. I don't think it would do any harm afterwards but there's no need for it once the placenta has taken over.

ourdaywillcome1983 · 13/02/2015 11:19

hi longest at my 10w scan they put me forward a few days so by scan date im 10+5 today (10+2 my dates) - everything looked fine and i was relaxed that day but im straight back to scared again now. For every day that passes my worry increases 10 fold. I couldnt remember if the consultant said 12 or 15 weeks, i am due to see him next thurs so i can double check but just wanted to get an extra worry out of my head and knew that someone on here would have the answer.

longestlurkerever · 13/02/2015 11:31

ourday you are past the most dangerous part, you really are. You can do it! When is your next scan?

ourdaywillcome1983 · 13/02/2015 11:39

i even have a pie chart as my screen saver on my phone with the 99.4% stat on but i just cant help but worry. Next one is my dating/12w scan on the 26th. 12W scan in the same week that weve been together for 12 years, please be a good omen. Thank you for the reassurance, i have bought a doppler (cant hear anything other than myself) so that hasent entirely helped matters, keep trying to reason that my uterus is tilted so maybe thats why but then the dark thoughts creep in and say maybe somethings gone wrong :(

bakingtins · 13/02/2015 11:50

ourday I was told to stop progesterone dead at 12 weeks but in fact tailed it off (once a day) between 12-13 weeks. The placenta takes over by about 10 weeks.
Step away from the Doppler. Midwives with years of experience won't listen until 16 weeks and even then don't read anything into not finding a Hb at that stage.
A good 10 week scan is really positive. I know the 12 week one feels like a biggie, but you have already got through most of the worst bit. Hang in there Daffodil

barkingtreefrog · 13/02/2015 11:52

I was told progesterone until 12 weeks if that helps ourday. You've passed the danger point and you're doing great! I realise it's still terrifying though. Have you tried meditation? I find that helps calm me down when I feel myself going into a negative thought spiral.

March I totally sympathise. I had a massive row with DH this week and we hardly ever row, probably twice a year max, and always ttc related Sad. I tried to explain to him that I'd spent the last 4 weeks shoving extra hormones into my body, and now I was not only on a hormone crash, but having a bad AF as well as trying to deal with the disappoint of the iui failing. And accepting that I will soon have to put my body through a hell of a lot more for Ivf. This was not the time to be picking an argument!!!! Angry
It took someone else at work to explain this to him (no one I've met, but someone who had been through fertility treatment herself and told him I'd be in hormone hell and he'd better go home and say sorry!!!) before he came home, hugged me and apologised Grin .

ourdaywillcome1983 · 13/02/2015 12:15

sat crying into my sandwich now at how lovely you all are, thank you - i should have come on here much earlier as it really does help me to hear you all reassure me. Deep breathes. The doppler has been put in the drawer, darent get it out again as ill only panic myself even more.
Thank you ladies Flowers
and barking i am sorry to hear about the IUI and subsequent hormone crash