hi chaps
bloody hell, paddle, that's all you need - a "saviour," eh?
thanks for list kc and yes, my dd and your ds were funny. they've both got that stubborn, feisty streak. the sparks were flying. in adults, it's called foreplay..
and yes! that thread was hilarious. when i've got the time and inclination, am going to start the most harmless, "beige" thread i can think of and see how long it takes to morph into the woefully predicatable same old, same old debate..
sfx - your dd's tantrums at the pool made me smile (in recognition) the classic move is when you have to practically shove your knee in their chest to get them in the buggy when they do that rigid, arched back thing accompanied by piercing screams. cur tutting from the blue rinse brigade..
have a good day all
toodlepip