Week 4 - Leaving Lockdown Bootcamp

[BIWI]

Morning all!

here's the spreadsheet . If you haven't already seen it, check out the new info for veg/nuts/fruit that @AthelstaneTheUnready has added to it. Updated (and hopefully now the most accurate) data for all three categories, and all grouped into traffic light categories - green to eat freely (when allowed, in the case of nuts and fruit), amber to be more cautious about and red to avoid as much as possible.

If there's a particular ingredient that isn't on there, just let me know and I'll find the data for that and add it.

And now to week 4

A reminder that this week is also one where you're unlikely to see much loss - and possibly may see a gain. Just remember that THIS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL! Don't panic, but just KOKO and things should get moving again from next week.

Off to catch up with the end of last week's thread now. Hope everyone has an enjoyable bank holiday Monday

Oh, yay. Thank you stuntnun. That is good news. I was steeling myself for an attempt to disbelieve you if you gave me bad news about my weight loss. But since you have said something so pleasing to hear, I am certain it is true.

It means that I can sustain my sense of a minor succes while i go round Tesco in a short while, which will help me to make good choices.

Great news fusion! Had been thinking about you.
I like the at peace quotes. That's how I see them anyway, I currently feel at peace and incredibly grateful for my lot.

@nowlook will wait as am .2lb off 9st 11!

@FusionChefGeoff that is wonderful news have a lovely evening
@nowlook hope your ds doesn't run you ragged with the self pity but I'll m sure he is uncomfortable and will miss his sport so maybe a wee spoiling
Met my dd1 boyfriends parents this morning and they where so full of praise how nice she is. Not always the case at home but not the worst.

B greek yogurt with vanilla
L salad with turkey tomatoes dressing
D fried turkey slices in butter with broccoli and cauliflower
2 squares dark chocolate never really liked it but not to bad with ginger tea. I
@Thinnerlikeachickendinner I'm the Roi poster with no where open but it will help me keep on track as I would find it hard to resist temptation of potatoes if eating out.

@FusionChefGeoff also want to say I’m really happy for you. Sometimes it seems like good news is rare regarding that horrible disease, must be a great relief.

Thats excellent news fusion. I didn't say anything but have just been through the same in the last month - routine mammogram picked up an "opacity" which had to be checked out, but all well - apparently overlapping sections of denser tissue often appear as a lump But you still have the two weeks of trying to suppress thoughts of much worse outcomes. You certainly deserve a celebratory cake.
Just been for a swim and having plucked up the courage to book the "medium" lane, was perturbed to find a lithe athlete with an IronmanUK swim cap sharing with me. She was very nice though, even when I swam into her with steamed up goggles. Feel really relaxed now - I should go swimming more often.

[quote Andi2020]@FusionChefGeoff that is wonderful news have a lovely evening
@nowlook hope your ds doesn't run you ragged with the self pity but I'll m sure he is uncomfortable and will miss his sport so maybe a wee spoiling
Met my dd1 boyfriends parents this morning and they where so full of praise how nice she is. Not always the case at home but not the worst.

B greek yogurt with vanilla
L salad with turkey tomatoes dressing
D fried turkey slices in butter with broccoli and cauliflower
2 squares dark chocolate never really liked it but not to bad with ginger tea. I
@Thinnerlikeachickendinner I'm the Roi poster with no where open but it will help me keep on track as I would find it hard to resist temptation of potatoes if eating out.[/quote]
I'd love some advice on the whole bf/gf thing. DS is besotted with a girl in his class who has recently been hospitalised for an ED and who has other MH issues (alcohol dependency). They're on facetime every 5 minutes. I'd prefer it if he didn't put so much energy into trying to "save" her and spent the time with his mates. That sounds so horrible written down. . How lovely that your parenting has been recognised

@nowlook that sounds hard with your DS. EDs and alcohol dependence are incredibly selfish diseases (having had both myself - now on the road to recovery and 7 yrs sober) and both also 100% rely on the sufferer wanting to get well.

Can you try to gently push that angle with him?? That maybe the best thing he can do for her is to back off so she can get some space to work it out herself??

Thanks @FusionChefGeoff! I am trying to do exactly what you suggest, but I also know that he's a 14 year old lad. He's being very supportive, but I imagine he thinks there's something in it for him if he stays the course.

All that said, many congratulations on your recovery and sobriety. My sister's ED took up so much space when we were teens that there was never really room for anything else.

Now, I'm aware that I've been a bit lily-livered for the past week. Normal, irreverent service will resume for week 5, I promise. I'm boring myself with these dramas!

Yay @cheeseisthebest and what a fabulous frock!

Hello lovely people, such lovely posts around, I'd want to stay with BC regardless of the eating patterns regardless for this lovely thread.

@nowlook Tough times with your DS, who sounds very kind. Fingers crossed it goes gently with him.

@FusionChefGeoff great news.

My own day started with a walk where we doubled back and did up and down the steep part twice. Feeling good.

3.5l and it's not yet 6pm, #winning

L duck breast, buttered spinach and poached rhubarb. Delicious together. No sugar in the rhubarb, just shallots fried in some duck fat then (chicken) stock added. The recipe suggested two spoons DiL sugar, it was fine without.

Two squares (2.9g) Waitrose #1 Dark Ecuadorean chocolate. Enjoyed it but have wanted more ever since. May be easier to not have any than set up this bag in my head, go one, have some more. You know you want to.

Supper may be the other half, buttered leeks instead of spinach. DH opted to finish last nights beef casserole instead. Usually he is the adventurous one, I'm getting more adventurous ... almost a NSV.

Great pictures @cheeseisthebest! (I saw them just before you had them deleted!)

Sorry to hear about your son's gf @nowlook - that must be really hard to deal with. How on earth does she come to have alcohol issues at such a young age though? That's awful.

@Random789 glad that your beer didn't result in a gain - but don't think that will happen every time!

Anyone have any ideas about what to do with a butternut squash? It's not something we have very often, as it's relatively carby, and I usually roast it with olive oil, chilli flakes and feta as an occasional vegetarian meal. But I managed to buy two by mistake (in my online shop) .

Apparently, her parents were going through a divorce and she used alcohol as a coping mechanism @BIWI (entirely in the words of DS).

I feel desperately sad for her, but (selfishly), don't really want DS to be caught up in it.

I'd soup it, BIWI, in HM chicken stock and lots of cream and pepper.

Sympathies to those with 'supportive' friends. When my husband was diagnosed with his cancer in his late thirties, there was definitely a strong line of "it will be fine! it could be worse! please let it be fine fine fine fine fine!" in responses from friends and family. Very much a let-this-not-really-be-happening vibe.

The easiest to deal with were the 'oh shit, that's really bad' comments. Because it was. People trying to get you to think positively were actually really fucking annoying. As if you just had to make an effort and it would all be ok.

@FusionChefGeoff and @pangolinfan great news for you both. Waiting is so stressful and there is such relief afterwards. It is much more emotional than expected. Can I join the never broke a sweat club? I have walked 8 hilly miles today. The thought of running it never entered my head.

BIWI I like butternut squash roasted with red onions (shallots will do though) lots of garlic, sage and pine nuts and maybe lardons, or something porky on the side, can add (or serve with) kale too.

Lots of different Low Carb/Keto cookbooks cheap in the Works if anyone is looking for inspiration or is very new to this WoE.

Chicken Shawarma from M&S (stinking the fridge out) with salads tonight.

People say some stupid shit, don't they? When I miscarried my second pregnancy I had a missed miscarriage, so had to go and have a D&C. All my mum could say was 'oh well at least you're a good carrier'. WTAF? I'd rather have been able to lose the pregnancy rather than have to undergo surgery. And how was that a comforting thing to say anyway?!

BTW, I never knew about your husband @AthelstaneTheUnready, so I'm really sorry to hear that

@AthelstaneTheUnready yup. I needed people to be with me in the shittiness not be all like 'everything will be fine!'
@BIWI I make bns into soup for the other half. I had two miscarriages, one missed. Its so shit. And people's response? At least you can get pregnant! I nearly lost my mind at that point. My sisterr in law got pregnant and was due when I would have been. They had zero empathy for our situation and I was told I should be able to be happy for them, and they were cross that I didn't personally congratulate them. I literally couldn't see her. It's better between us now, but still I just think that she has no idea as everything in her life has gone well so far.

About to grill monster burgers with a slice of mozerella in the middle

@nowlook

Yay *@cheeseisthebest* and what a fabulous frock!

Thank you. Sorry got it deleted cos my face in pic!

And thank you BIWI.

I also saw the picture before it was deleted @cheeseisthebest and you looked fab!

Thank you! I love the dress. Not worn it yet.

Cropped it now