Keeping on keeping on until the new bootcamp

[wombattoo]

Thought I'd better start a new thread whilst we while away the the time till the new bc starts and continue with Super Strict September.
link to last thread

I think a lot of reluctance to discuss the woe is due to the misconceptions around about fat and carbs and what is healthy. I feel defensive and like I have to trot out all the science. Atkins got a bad name in popular thought and I have had a few comments about cholesterol etc.

Anyway I wanted to share a few things with the new people, especially those fussing about putting pounds back on. I measured this morning. Comparing to my starting measurements, which I took in May, I have lost:

4" from waist
3.5" from hips
1.5" from thighs, arms and under bust
2.5" from bust

Yesterday I wore a size 14 top for the first time in years. Literally years, at least 7.

Since starting this WOE the scales have bounced up and down like a yo-yo. Going by my lowest recorded weight I have gone from 16st 5lbs to 15st. But this morning I am up in the mid-15s again.

What I am saying is that if you rely especially on the scales you will have a bad time Take a more holistic approach, look at clothes fit, measurements, your overall health. KOKO and trust the WOE.

Following on from OldBooks in my first five months of Bootcamp I went from 11st 8lb to 9st 6lb so a loss of 30 pounds. I lost 8 inches from my waist (36" to 28") and 6.5 inches from my hips (42.5" to 36"). But the scales went down and down and up and down and stayed the same etc. etc. Looking back I would say I had a textbook rate of weight loss on average but at the time it seemed to be all over the place. If I had known what the end result would be then I would have been so much happier with my progress and probably would have lost weight even faster as I would have found it easier to stick to the WoE without feeling upset about the scales not doing what I wanted.

And Finally is quite right, this isn't a diet. I will eat this way for the rest of my life. I'm not going back to IBS and period pains and dental plaque and arthritis and feeling out of control of my eating. And I want to stay healthy to the end of my days so I won't be doing anything to increase my risk of diabetes, heart disease and dementia. Who knows, with the tiny amount of sugar I eat now I might even keep my own teeth for my whole life!

C4 - sounds like a great day! Hope the SKids have behaved.

Sorry, but I'm not throwing out the chocolate. The thought of having some on Friday is the only thing that's going to get me through the week. I'll be strict up to then, but then I'm planning some me time as I'll be home alone. Can't wait for the peace and quiet. I'm an introvert. DP is a grumpy git so doesn't do conversation unless he's had a lot to drink and has something on his mind. He does like to be surrounded by sound, but has decided the cat hates the tv being on so I can use that as an excuse to switch it off, it seems. However, my beg for 10 mins of silence this morning fell on deaf ears, as the tv went on when I was enjoying a morning read. Oh well!

Friend is here. Friend likes talking. A lot. I know he has lots to catch up on, but even so. He doesn't listen, so asks the same question time after time. At least he hasn't, yet, done what he did last time which was to ask me the same thing thrice in succession, as he turned away and started a conversation each time with DP after I'd got about two words out. But still. I went to bed about half ten but could still hear them talking, and was pretty on edge anyway, so didn't sleep til long after they went to bed. Then had a nightmare. Then woke early. So not in the best place. And I have two weeks of this. But they're away at the weekend, hence looking forward to chocolate and peace of Friday.

I'm also pissed off with DP. I asked him, repeatedly, to get an ETA for friend yesterday. He didn't. Thought he'd be here late, probably not want dinner. Saturday night he made a point of telling me we had lots of cleaning to do yesterday. He'd obviously forgotten I'd delegated it all to him, since, for once, he had a reason to do it (after argument week before when I begged him to hoover one room and he said he 'always' did it, and this was his reply to "when did you last clean the bathroom?" (possibly Feb, IF he did it when I was last away)).

So, after doing the shopping yesterday morning I said I'd jump out on the way past (and not bother going to drop his other, cheeky friend off with them) and make a start on some things. DP took that as an excuse to stay with said friend and have a drink, instead of coming straight back. Which meant I ended up hanging around for a while as I didn't want to get dirty cleaning the animals out and then and stop for brunch, and he had the shopping in the car. So, he comes back, makes food, cleans out the bird houses then goes to his shed. Visiting friend turns up at 2. So, of course, the drinking (re)starts and none of the house cleaning happens (as I spent my usual, many hours, cleaning the out houses out and sorting out the guinea pen, which needed to be done).

I fear it will be expected that I do it this coming weekend, when they're away. Because it is a tip, it won't get done before then (because DP will be too busy entertaining), and, of course, I'll have nothing better to do. Plus it's already annoying me. But I'm tempted to put my annoyance to one side and let it fester.

It also occurred to me that, since he's coming back with Visiting Friend and Cheeky Friend next Monday, they'll expect me to cook for all of them, but take the complete piss regarding what time they're coming back, as DP will give me one time but then let himself be distracted into going out for a drink on the way back. I think I'm going to get round that by telling him to get them some pizzas and they can cook it themselves when they return.

Anyway, that's how the next wee while is looking. So I'm going to be ultra good for the next few days, but with the promise of a wee bit of chocolate to get me through. I may no succumb (Friday was the first time I've had chocolate since before BC began) but if I want it I'm going to allow myself to have some. And enjoy the serenity!

Time that all sounds pretty miserable, his friends so his responsibility to cater for them. Leave the house to fester just do stuff for you, sort out your underwear drawer, go through and organise all of your makeup, clean the bathroom and give yourself a bit of a pamper. Spend some time writing a rota for chores and stick it on the wall ready for his return.
Stay away from the evil, nasty carbs they are not your friend, don't hang out with them you deserve better.

Time that all sounds very stressful. I wouldn't be cooking for anyone and I wouldn't be sitting around chatting to someone so rude as to ask me a question then ignore my answer. Take yourself away if you can.

Morning all.

Time - agree with OldBooks and C4. Chores rota a good idea. And the friend sounds a pain!

Well my Sunday turned a bit carby. Too much wine. A roast potato. And three crackers with cheese. Oh and a slice of sourdough bread. Not good.

Back on track today.

OldBooks - I'm 15 st 8ish and no way would I fit in a size 14! Well done you.

Really interesting about th scales not showing what we want. I think I will stop weighing for a bit. I took measurements a while ago so I'll go by them. Although I have to say I'm not noticing any change in my clothes as yet but I have been having wine. But that stops now. I'm going to Boston at the end of Oct and I'm not drinking again till I'm on the plane. Sober October and a bit extra. And it will be hard! But it's the only way I will lose weight. I'm doing fine with the food (other than yesterday obviously!).

Food today

B - Greek yoghurt, blueberries, nuts and seeds and cream
L - salad leaves, chicken, tomatoes,avocado and dressing
D - shepherds pie with celeriac mash
S - Babybels

At least that's the plan!

I like C4's interpretation of how we per over our weight.

I do weigh daily but don't get up tight about day-to-day fluctuations except to remind myself to drink more water.

Today's weight is down nearly a lb on last week: down to 13stone 5.25lb. Please with that given I had made lemon drizzle cake last week and had to try it and a batch of tablet

More importantly, my NSV is this month's measurement, as follows (comparison is which the measurements taken on 14/8)

15/9/17
Waist 93cm/36.5" -1.5"
Under bust 91cm/36" -1"
Over bust 108cm/42.5" +0.5"
Hips 113cm/44.5" -1"
Upper arm 33cm/13" No change
Thigh 65cm/25.5" No change
Neck 38cm/15" New measurement

Don't understand the "over bust" measurement going up - unless it is simply because it is difficult to measure boobs hanging down (I do it the bra guru way) with a piece of string really do need to buy a proper tape measure rather than the metal one I use with the string

I had also mis-recorded my wait measurement last time - now corrected.

Cider it's probably not what you want to hear but wine stalls me massively. It's definitely worth cutting it out for a few weeks to see whether it affects you. Often we drink alcohol out of habit rather than because we really want a drink.

Time don't let DP take advantage of you. I think you're quite right to lay down the law regarding pizza on Monday and equal division of cleaning chores.

Hippa thanks for the smoked paprika tip. I just had a cheese omelette with garlic pepper and smoked paprika and it was heavenly. My omelette tip is to melt the butter on a low heat then tip the excess into the eggs and beat them. It gets makes the eggs mix more evenly and gets extra fat into your omelette.

My two cents on talking about your diet/way of eating are that you had better get used to it because it's never going to stop. When you're at your goal weight and all lovely and svelte, people are still going to ask you about what you're eating. Only they'll find it even harder to accept your answer because if you're slim then why would you deny yourself potatoes/bread/cake? Basically you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

StuntNun - I know. I really need to stop. I bought the Seedlips 'gin' you recommended and really like that. I'm going to just have water though for a bit. I need to break the automatic 'it's 6pm so I'm having a drink' thing. I'm fine if DH isn't here but it's always been what we do so if he is here I find it hard as he will have a drink. I just need to not be a greedy cow and feel hard done by!

Thanks everyone.

Don't worry, I managed to spend quite a lot of time out their way yesterday. Cleaning the animals' cages has to be done each Sunday. Rearranging the guinea pig cage and basically building it from scratch was less vital, really, but occupied a good few hours! I'll stay in my office every evening so that cuts into that time too.

As for cooking, I enjoy it, it's my relaxation. So I'm not actually bothered about doing it generally, or for his friend (and to be fair the guy's also a friend of mine, but he wouldn't come to stay with me if DP wasn't here). Plus it means I get to wash my hands of the dishes. It's just the times he knows I'm expecting him at X time but buggers off regardless. To be fair, though, it's been a long time since he's done it, but I suspect the joint persuasionary powers of CF and VF will be effective next Monday. I'll definitely go with the pizza plan and he can sort it.

As for chores I do need to have words. He used to be really good, better than me tbh, but since depression took hold (and CF came into the picture) he's done far less. I am going to let the place fester and see what happens.

Today I'm wearing size 14 jeans, a size 14 jumper, and a size 16 puffa jacket. 2.5 stone and 17 weeks ago I was in a 22. I'm irrationally pleased with myself. Like others (and for the first time for me), the scales are being stubborn but my shape seems to change every time I look in the mirror (which I'm embarrassed to say is quite often, after ignoring them for years). Still a way to go - other people probably still see me as fat, but I feel so much better both in myself.

ilove that's so inspirational.

I agree - really inspirational. Well done!

ilove that's brilliant! Well done!

Stunt I pour the melted butter that's left in the pan over the omelette once it's on the plate!

Food was a bit random today, ended up with something different than planned:

L - salad with homemade hot chicken wings and mayo
D - different salad with ham, eggs & salad cream

ilovecherries that's brilliant progress! I've lost around the same and only down two dress sizes :( I blame it on my height. I was a size 18 at over 15 stone and now a 14 at 12 1/2.

Lunch - Greek yog, cream and cinnamon.
Snack - 1 square dark choc and two feta stuffed sweet peppers.
Dinner - chili con carne and Kale, soured cream and cheese.

Not enough water today...

Howdy Ladies,
Great NSVs,
STS this week can't crack the 14st mark but still under 14st 4lb ( ie in onederland ). No riding this weekend and feel stiff and sore. Did 1.5 hours in the garden and was shattered, weird.

Gotta do more around the garden before the snow comes, so unless we get a really nice warm end of September no more long rides.

C4 you home yet? How is Alfie and the DIL?

Hi all! On the third day of holiday, have so far managed to stay under 50g carbs per day which I'm very happy with especially as the food at our hotel is both plentiful and delicious. Another NSV is that I've actually allowed DH to take my picture for the first time in ages - previously I've hidden away from the camera as too embarrassed about my appearance. Will be nice to have some photographic holiday memories for a change

Hope everyone is doing ok.

Hello everyone. I've been away with friends. hippy commune vegan thing - was delightful but it has reminded me how much I miss things like lentils, chickpeas, rice and stuff. I'm a bit meated out and not really sure where to go from here.

Lots of inspiring stories today - I find it really helpful to read about your successes especially when I'm looking down that long dark tunnel at your goal weight and wondering if you'll ever get there - even my 2 stone plus weight loss can seem a long way off, so what it must be like if you've more than that to lose - I take my hat off to those who have lost large amounts!! I get the point about not relying solely on the scales to tell you if you've lost anything and using other indicators too like how clothes fit and how your body looks and feels - I'll shall be glad to not have my belly hanging over my underwear and not have big pads of fat at the sides of my bra!!

I'm another one who tussles with what to say to people about being on a diet and I try not to say the word diet because of all the connotations of the word. I've had mixed reactions from people my SIL and BIL in law calling me boring because I refused a glass of wine and telling me not to go all anorexic on them!! to a young lad in the pub telling me how he has managed to stop using his medication for diabetes by cutting out sugar and carb and I was having a really good conversation with him about my WOE. I try to explain that it's about making myself healthier and that I'll hopefully have a better old age. It's helping my Ibs and I've not had any reflux since I started this woe. My mum and my aunt have Alzheimer's so Even though I've learnt that it's not hereditary I want to do what I can for myself. Like I said in an earlier thread I'll say I'm doing it under my doctors orders if I need to.

My IBS almost disappearing (had maybe 2-3 episodes lasting a few hours each over the last 4 months) is a delightful and unexpected benefit. Before, it was easier to count the days that Ididnt have IBS - usually the day after Id maxed out on Imodium to allow me to ravel.

Loving the inspirational stories on here, we have built a pretty awesome community here, the next BC is going to be epic

Grah not home until tomorrow evening, glad to report Alfie and DIL doing well they've been back home since Saturday pm, DS took control and banned visitors and made her stay in bed, in the bath or snuggled up on the sofa. She's only allowed to cuddle and feed Alfie or read stories to the other two. He goes back to work on Wednesday so has enjoyed having them to himself for this last bit of his leave.

Ok here's a little fix of the snugly wugly love bug otherwise known as Alfie

And it came to pass in the inspirational land called Hi Fatlow Carb which had been founded on the teachings of the Biwi and Stunt Nun assisted by the creator of the Spreadsheet of all awesomeness and the Chosen ones (you know who you are).

In the month of SuperStrictSeptember which fell between the Bootcamp of Namaste Bitches and the Bootcamp of the DangeroftheChristmasParty
that a disciple named C4 of the pink wheels who was born of the house of myfatcanpissrightoff, and carried with her a ventilator and suction machine, did travel to the land of Denmark.

Great challenges were faced and overcome, the twat who forgot the case, the skidish monsters, the night of A thousand units of Alcohol and too many courses to remember, the unfinished quilt and the family party full of pizza.
And it came to pass that on last day an angel of the Biwi spoke to her in the shop called Fotex and said you will find treasure in aisle 5, there you will find a basket full of sustenance.
And from that day forth the favourite snack of all Bootcamps to come will be named Gammeldags

Some fab stories

I wanted to share my recent food discoveries (not that exciting really). Tonight instead of having a 3 egg omelette I made 3 one egg omelettes for dinner. They were great, the edges were really crispy which I love.

The other evening OH had custard (which I love) so instead I had a small bowl of warm cream! It was delicious, not for everyday obviously, but it was nice as a treat.

Gammeldags! Are they pork scratchings?

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