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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 07:46

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

I hope that the scales reflect the efforts you've made over the last, strict apart from the cheating fortnight.

Now you have a choice. You can either move on to Bootcamp Light, which allows a bit of fruit (berries mainly), for you to include nuts/seeds - again, occasionally, and also a moderate amount of alcohol. Rules for Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet, but to make it even easier for you here they are:

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.

You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol

But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:
Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds

Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

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wombattoo · 05/06/2017 12:33

Adalind It is a general rule that everyone should be drinking at least 2l. If the weight chart says you should be having more, than have what the chart states.
Secret done

SayrraT · 05/06/2017 12:46

I've fixed the spreadsheet, please please DO NOT TYPE IN THE BLUE CELLS. If you do it by accident then tell me and I'll fix it.

GetReady · 05/06/2017 12:59

Lunch! Pepper pizzas! And veggetti cucumber!

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!
dustmotesinthesun · 05/06/2017 13:07

Hello everyone!!

Sorry for disappearing. I really appreciated the support on last week's thread and wanted to come on and post support for others having a difficult time. Sorry for not managing it.

May was a bad month to be honest. I know my clothes are looser but I'm scared to weigh. I won't have much of a loss. Every week all month I did really well being strict and then lost it at the weekend. This weekend just past, I binged. Quite badly to be honest. I feel pretty crap about it. I am trying to unpick what has happened but I was exhausted for the latter part of the month and had some stress and have clearly just fallen apart.

What is getting me is that last year I tried really really hard, but I kept slipping and the entire year I just lost about 8 pounds. Which is still a loss but I don't want that to happen this year. I really, really, really don't. It will be very bad for my mental health. I'm sick of being overweight. Why I don't remember that when I start binging, I don't know. I want to get the weight off completely and wear nice clothes. My wedding I'm attending is this coming weekend and I'm scared I'm just going to look shit. Dreading any photos being taken of me.

I'm not sure right now whether I need more support. Or just to be less tired. But fatigue is part of my life so I have to find a way round managing that without eating.

I have been on a diet of one sort of another for 20 years and I think my brain always manages to convince me they don't work and one cheat won't hurt. So of course my weight stalls, the diet doesn't work and my brain goes, 'see? SEE??' like an obnoxious 8 year old or something. Which is stupid because periodically I realise it does bloody work and I feel on cloud nine. I lose when I stick to it. I feel better when I stick to it both physically and mentally.

What is wrong with me?

All I can do now is KOKO. I have found some scales and I think it might be better to weigh weekly again. And keep posting here.

I had bacon, eggs and cabbage for breakfast with a pot of dessicated coconut.
Lunch has been salmon cabbage and homemade pesto.

I am just remembering something positive, in fact (sorry this is long). I measured myself last week. I'd lost 2 inches under my bust and 1.5 inches off my waist - that's in the last couple of months. My hips are a bit smaller but my thighs are still fairly massive. So something has been working for sure.

BASHES SELF ON HEAD WITH HAMMER. Anyone else want to give me a good whacking? It might help.

Well done everyone else doing so well.

Duckiesprettycrazy · 05/06/2017 13:09

3lbs off this week, I've lost half a stone so far. I look better and I feel better, also I finally feel like the end of being fat is in sight! Have got a few occasions coming up over the next few months ( involving meeting up with friends from school / Uni) which are helping to motivate me - I want to show off a slim me!

MyShinyThing · 05/06/2017 13:20

It's taken me forever to catch up with you all Grin

Well done to everyone for sticking with it, KOKO.

I've gained 0.4lbs this week. But as this is really week 4 for me I'm not too worried. I am however going to stick with strict bc for at least another week.

I've definitely lost inches as clothes are fitting better, my skin is clearer than it's ever been, I've got bags of energy, and I had no pmt or cramps with af this month! So there's no way I'm going back to the way I was eating before!

secretsignal · 05/06/2017 13:50

Flowersdustmotes, it is really really hard to lose weight, especially if you turn to food for emotional comfort and and up sabotaging yourself. It sounds so familiar. When DC 2 was born I was 4st over my ideal weight. That was 6 years ago and it's taken that long, with many setbacks, to get back in sight of my 'happy' weight. I've given up and felt despondent so many times. Dont give up. I re-read the rules quite a lot and post my meals on here every day to keep myself on the straight and narrow. Keep posting, you can do it.

OldBooks · 05/06/2017 14:00

Flowers dustmotes, it is bloody hard. Can you work on identifying your triggers? I eat so mindlessly sometimes, back and forth to the fridge without realising, and suddenly think 'what am I doing? Why am I binging? What am I ACTUALLY upset about?' it's crazy how hard it is to disentangle emotional eating and real hunger.

styledilemma · 05/06/2017 14:05

dustmote
Reading through your post, it sounds as if you do great during the week and then end up losing it on the weekend.
I feel if you can put some some extra support and coping strategies in place for the weekends then you will 'crack' it.
Whether that means coming on here to chat or preplanning your weekends so that they are full, stocking your fridge with lots of tasty low carb snacking foods, or a combination of all of them.
It's tough, but I believe it can be done.
Every week I would lose weight. Every weekend I would put it back on. And repeat.
My 'weapon' on weekends is to try and keep really busy. You will find a way around this Flowers

YoLoZammo · 05/06/2017 14:07

Well done everyone on weight or inch losses.

I think portion control will be my next hurdle. I love the rich preciously forbidden foods, but I need to keep the portions small. I find I get an ache in my stomach and I no longer trust whether this is full, hungry or thirsty.

Flibbertyjibbit · 05/06/2017 14:08

Flowers dustmotes, it is really hard. I am keeping a daily diary where I log everything - food and drinks. It keeps me focused. On the first page I've written why I am low carbing to keep me motivated to achieve my goals. I've binged so often, sometimes when emotional and sometimes just because i'm bored/lonely. I know I shouldn't turn to food, but it has always been a comfort. I'm really trying to change my pattern of binge diet binge diet.

This thread is great to keep you on track, are you able to post each day to keep focused?

TheWayOfTheWorld · 05/06/2017 14:11

B: none, trying the 16:8 intermittent fasting
L: leftovers from dinner (bolognaise and cauliflower rice), several slices of leerdammer cheese.
S: creamy coffee
D: TBC

Yorkshirebornandbred · 05/06/2017 14:31

I've definitely realised how much of my eating is because I'm bored. Especially in the evening.

Fortunatepiggy · 05/06/2017 14:42

I can't work out the spreadsheet. Is it in pounds or kgs? It's showing me as 149 but I weighed 11stone 6 then 10 stone 10 now 10 stone 6

NamelessEnsign · 05/06/2017 14:57

Thanks so much BIWI!

I failed to weigh this morning because of a whole cat based trauma. So I'll weigh in tomorrow!

I think I may go to 16:8 because I'm struggling to keep enough variety in meals - eating too much cheese and egg. My home life is a bit chaotic with work, two young kids, and a DH with an unpredictable schedule. I am managing LCHF for me and healthy meals for the kids but I am not managing variety!

Really inspired by the brilliant dedication of you all and I am continuing on. I have been surprised how easy it is to eat out as a veggie LCHF eater this time around.

C4pinkwheels · 05/06/2017 15:02

I have a birthday dilemma tomorrow - I know my DGD has been practising for months at making sponge cakes so that she can make me a birthday cake. I don't think I have the heart to refuse a piece of my own birthday cake which this little girl (junior school age) has been planning since I went into hospital at the beginning of March, she has had some disasters along the way and the family have suffered some very experimental flavour combinations. She is sooooo excited today and has told me I'm not allowed into the kitchen after 3:00pm.
So what I'm planning to do is have a small slice on my plate take a bite and be very gushy about how wonderful it is but not eat any more, hopefully in the moment I will be able to slip it onto someone else's plate or into a napkin. Unless you lovelies have got a better idea.

Food today:

B: cold roast beef, celery & lettuce
L: egg, haloumi, courgette and spinach
D: sea bass fillet with green salad

Polkadotties · 05/06/2017 15:03

1lb off this week, 3lbs in total Sad I used to lose that in the first few days of low carbing.

The only thing I'm doing differently is taking anti depressants. Does anyone else take fluoxetine?

I feel like I'm getting bigger. I'm going to run out of clothes soon :(

HemanOrSheRa · 05/06/2017 15:17

dustmotes Flowers. I think it is extremely hard for anyone who has been dieting for years. I've been on and off of SW for about 15 years and ALWAYS do the same thing - lose some weight and then start playing this ridiculous cat and mouse game where I see how far I can cheat before I gain weight. I have reached a healthy target weight several times but I make it very hard for myself and of course the weight goes back on, not least because I just have to push it and sabotage myself.

Would H.A.L.T help? It's generally used in alcohol recovery but works well for lots situations, I find. So when you are feeling the need to eat/drink something you know will sabotage your progress you just take a few seconds to think:

H - Am I hungry?
A - Am I angry?
L - Am I lonely?
T - Am I tired?

The more you do it, the more it becomes second nature.

BIWI · 05/06/2017 15:26

Sorry you're having a tough time dustmotes.

It might help you to read The Idiot Proof Diet, by India Knight and Neris Thomas

They talk a lot about the psychology of eating/dieting. (And theirs is also a low carb plan)

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 15:28

@AdalindSchade The rules about drinking water are exactly the same as in Bootcamp - so check how much you should be drinking. (The amounts are on Bootcamp rules, so you'll have to go back and check the spreadsheet)

@cabbage67 still no need to count carbs (or calories!) on Bootcamp Light

@styledilemma you were absolutely right! (c)

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AdalindSchade · 05/06/2017 15:32

Thank you!

Fortunatepiggy · 05/06/2017 15:40

Hi sorry me again is the spreadsheet in pounds or kg?

Thanks!

SayrraT · 05/06/2017 15:42

Pounds

SayrraT · 05/06/2017 15:48

What did you put your weight in as fortunate 149 lbs is 10st 9lbs (149 kg is 23st 5lbs).

If you now weigh 10st 6lbs that's 146lbs, there are 14 lbs to a stone. There is also a conversion tab on the spreadsheet.

wombattoo · 05/06/2017 15:50

dust Sorry you have had such a rough time Thanks. Jump on the scales so you can see if there is much 'damage' then jump back on the thread. The hardest part was coming back and you've done that. Good luck.