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Low-carb bootcamp

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 07:46

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

I hope that the scales reflect the efforts you've made over the last, strict apart from the cheating fortnight.

Now you have a choice. You can either move on to Bootcamp Light, which allows a bit of fruit (berries mainly), for you to include nuts/seeds - again, occasionally, and also a moderate amount of alcohol. Rules for Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet, but to make it even easier for you here they are:

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.

You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol

But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:
Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds

Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

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StuntNun · 05/06/2017 10:22

STS again! I'm blaming rubbishy sleep and lots of stress.

Cherrypi that Instant Pot someone recommended on the last thread makes yogurt. I'm thinking about getting rid of my slow cooker and yogurt maker and getting an Instant Pot instead. You can make yogurt using a thermos flask so you don't need a yogurt maker. I do like mine though as it includes a sieve so you can easily make Greek yogurt.

I can't get my head round the fact that I've only lost a very small amount of weight, but measurements say otherwise....how does that work?
It's because scales are evil lying bastards, they're an incredibly unreliable way to measure your total fat mass (which is what we really need to know). I weight 1 kg more at bedtime than I do in the morning. I'm not losing a kilogram of water through sweat and my morning wee so which is my true weight? If you're female and menstruating then that plays havoc with your weight - the only way to get a true comparison of weight loss is to compare your weight with the same point in your last menstrual cycle, at the same time of day, making sure that you're well hydrated. You can go down a dress size while your weight stays the same. You can lose weight but your waist gets bigger if you're bloated/retaining water. If you want to know whether you're truly losing weight then only weigh once a month.

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JiminnyCricket · 05/06/2017 10:23

It works because as you lose fat, your cells back fill with water and you retain water generally, so even if the scales don't move you've lost fat from around your body. This is why scales aren't the best indicator of weight loss. I personally have a margin of error of a whopping 10lbs. I can be 5lbs heavier or lighter in the morning vs evening or on different days in the same week!

This is also why you tend to get a few weeks of 'stalling' and then a sudden 'whoosh' of weight loss. I lost 1lb, 1/2lb, nothing nothing etc for 5 weeks, then dropped 8lbs in 3 days the week before this BC Hmm

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Billionnairewannabe · 05/06/2017 10:24

Morning and well done everyone!

I've STS this week?? Not sure why - I did have a few raspberries a couple of times to try and keep constipation at bay but can't be that?

Hey ho! I'm in the LCHF zone now so going to keep going as I do feel thinner. I'm trying IF today so only eating between 10-6. And I will mainly stick to BC with the odd bowl of berries and yoghurt.

Thanks for the info about my moods BIWI!! I have been having salmon avocado salad as my goto lunch (need a small mortgage for the salmon!) and I'm now having a glass of water with tsp of salt every morning so will see how that goes.

Keep up the good work everyone!

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Naschkatze · 05/06/2017 10:25

So many good losses!

We're off away for a few days. I will be sticking to LC as much as possible (looking forward to the hotel breakfasts!) but I will probably treat myself to a couple of things. Sorry, life is too short to not enjoy dessert when on holiday! GrinCowers from the stick

I think I'll try and cut down on dairy when I get back. Probably consuming too much cream and cheese.

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secretsignal · 05/06/2017 10:27

4 lb down here hopes scales aren't evil lying bastards. Wombattoo can you update me pls? Am v scared of breaking the spreadsheet, 148.4. Hoping to hit 10st by the end of boot camp.

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nextchapterplease · 05/06/2017 10:27

Morning all - well done to everyone who has made it through the 2 weeks obeying the Rules and seeing Results !

I am back from my holiday in Cornwall - and am basically starting again with some extra Lbs to lose.
I started well but lapsed part way through the week as it was just easier- but I have paid the price !
Am getting back on it today and am so glad to have this supportive thread to help me !
Good news is I have now got DH on board and that really helps me - just need to do some meal planning to make it easy !
Glad there are other people who are getting back on the wagon - going to avoid BCL for the next couple of weeks and start BC again!

Interestingly I can't wait to get back to it as the carbs made me feel so bloated and sluggish - Urgh ! It's not worth it !

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nekobus · 05/06/2017 10:27

Checking in!

1.9 off this week, making a total of 5.4 I'm quite happy with that for the first 2 weeks!

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Yorkshirebornandbred · 05/06/2017 10:28

I just lost 0.4 lbs ... not surprised though, as I've had a lot of cream and cheese and not enough water. I'm sticking with bc for now and will improve on last week.

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TheWayOfTheWorld · 05/06/2017 10:31

0.4lb off for me, despite sticking to it rigidly. However:

  • clothes definitely feel/look better
  • it was week 3 of low carb for me (I did one week of Dukan Attack the week before boot camp started) which ties in with the week 3/4 slow down.


However, I have lost 9.5lbs in 3 weeks and I would have been absolutely delighted with that if you'd told me that 3 weeks ago - so I shall KOKOSmile

Star to everyone else on your losses!
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TimeIhadaNameChange · 05/06/2017 10:39

Barely lost anything, but I'm not overly worried. My guts are still feeling the effects of sugar at the weekend, but I really am convinced it has been the cause of my many problems over the last few years so I have an appointment booked with the doctor for tomorrow. Will be interesting to see what he says.

Will continue (go back to) full bootcamp for the next two weeks - have no reason at all to go do anything else and I can't wait for my body to calm down again.

DP still has no idea what low carb means, despite being a biologist. Yesterday he said I'd probably feel better after a fry-up, and proceeded to add not only a potato scone, but fried bread onto my plate as well! I just left it. I'd bought him a lemon cheesecake for pudding, and reminded it of him when he came in late last night, at which point he asked if I'd had mine. Errrr - no!

Anyway, today's meals look like:

B - Total, and creamy coffee
L - leftover roasted chicken, cauliflower and broccoli with mayo, olives and Total; have cream for coffee if I have a cup
D - not entirely sure, probably the rest of the chicken with veg

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styledilemma · 05/06/2017 10:48

I've lost 5lbs!!! Smile

I'm definitely sticking with it. I expect it will slow down now, but I'm happy with that. I only want to lose 5'bs more.
Slow and steady is the way forward now.
Well done everybody!

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ASDismynormality · 05/06/2017 10:50

stuntnun. The instant pot is great as a pressure cooker, yoghurt and rice maker but not as a slow cooker but what I would slow cook I pressure cook instead. The slow cooker function is too hot.

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styledilemma · 05/06/2017 10:54

I went to make eggs for breakfast. Run out of eggs.
Yoghurt? Nope, run out of yoghurt.
No ham even.

So, I found some cauliflower, cut it into small florets, steamed it, added some grated cheese, salt and pepper (no butter because we've run out of butter) and made a quick
Cauliflower Cheese. It was really nice and quick to make (especially if you cut the cauliflower really small)

So, if anybody's stuck for breakfast ideas and are sick of eggs and yogurt (and don't want to eat too much processed meat like bacon)
Cauliflower cheese makes a really good breakfast.
Plus it was really filling.

Now I need to go shopping and stock up on all the above things.

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styledilemma · 05/06/2017 10:56

I've noticed I still have a small amount of cream left. I could have added that to my cauliflower cheese as well. Oh well. Next time Smile

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CodLiverOil556 · 05/06/2017 11:39

Having a good day so far

B - creamy coffee

L - 2 burgers, mushrooms, green peppers, all fried in olive oil and spinach with more olive oil

D - not sure yet probably omelette

W - 1 litre (always do my 3 litres by 1700 then I'm not up all night going for a wee)

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cabbage67 · 05/06/2017 11:44

Thanks for clarifying that Jim and Stunt... I always knew the scales were evil [Wink]

Whilst on - and I probably should know the answer to this, but should I be counting carbs on BC light? and if so, what should I be aiming to stay under?

Thanks for your help

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L238 · 05/06/2017 11:47

So the flax bread is not too bad imo! Had 2 (small, my loaf came out rather flat!) slices with half an avocado for breakfast. I see what they mean thought about needing a lot of water when you take flax - have drunk a litre already and a coffee and not needed to wee yet Hmm

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styledilemma · 05/06/2017 11:51

L238 which recipe did you use?

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StuntNun · 05/06/2017 11:53

Here's another example of why the scales are evil. Here are two graphs of my weight loss, both showing exactly the same timescale. One shows my almost daily weigh ins, the other shows only one weight per month. You can see from the monthly weight chart that I lost weight pretty consistently over the five months but the daily chart shows ups as well as downs. In hindsight the daily weight loss chart looks great but imagine how I felt on the 22nd July and the 9th September when my weight jumped up dramatically. Note that this is an absolutely typical weight loss chart.

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!
Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!
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ShastaBeast · 05/06/2017 11:58

No loss officially but I did get back from my blip between Sunday and Monday last week. I started a few weeks before BC so not expecting a big drop. However, I had a check up gym session and the trainer commented I'd lost weight. I've officially lost 6lb but didn't weigh before the first week so probably over the half stone mark. I can definitely feel it all over.

I had a super low carb day yesterday to make up for the alcohol and cake at the wedding. I'll do the same today and next weekend - I'll probably start the light BC next week on work days only at first.

I hope it's ok - I passed on the rules to a colleague, he's older and has diabetes but has a high carb diet. He came in the day after with chicken and avocado. His wife is the same so I really hope it sticks. I actually mentioned it to his colleague who must've told him so he came to chat about it. I'd love to get my mum on it too, she's pre diabetic and always struggled with her weight, forever on a diet. It's really makes sense now and after a few weeks becomes embedded in your thinking. Keep up the great work everyone, it's so much easier with this board too.

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L238 · 05/06/2017 11:59

style I used this one that someone posted and said was ok for BC lite (contains nuts)

www.thelondoner.me/2014/03/mums-low-carb-bread.html

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 12:17

Shanta - get them to join us!

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AdalindSchade · 05/06/2017 12:19

BIWI - in your rules post at the top you say drink at least 2l water. Does that mean we don't have to drink the amounts for our weight (in my case 3l) and can drop it or just that we should carry on and drink no less than 2l?

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wombattoo · 05/06/2017 12:22

C4 Well done. I bet you're glad you resisted the toast!
cabbage You don't need to be in ketosis to lose weight. I have said on every thread previously that I went down a dress size but the scales showed hardly any movement. Incredible.

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styledilemma · 05/06/2017 12:24

L238 Thanks, I'm definitely going to give that a go.

BIWI I have found this recipe for coconut bread.

It says to use honey.
Is it OK to
a) make an exception and use canderal granules in place of the honey.
Or
b) add honey, but only a little bit, or
c) leave out the honey altogether and not add artifical sweeteners either.

Why do I just know you're going to say C. Wink

I can live with C. As long as I can smother butter on each slice it will make up for any lack of sweetness I'm sure. Smile

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