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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 07:46

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

I hope that the scales reflect the efforts you've made over the last, strict apart from the cheating fortnight.

Now you have a choice. You can either move on to Bootcamp Light, which allows a bit of fruit (berries mainly), for you to include nuts/seeds - again, occasionally, and also a moderate amount of alcohol. Rules for Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet, but to make it even easier for you here they are:

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.

You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol

But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:
Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds

Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

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Cookingongas · 09/06/2017 12:47

I'm still unwell today, nose bleeds and headaches. Don't think it could be diet related ( though dh insists it is)

It's incredibly hard to koko when Ill for me. My traditional Ill go tos are out. Ended up with pate on lettuce yesterday which wasn't as comforting as toast usually is Sad.

Right that's enough feeling sorry for myself. I've kept to it and intend to carry on.

And duck crackling sounds great- a mixed box plus standard delivery equals £1.68 a bag- which isn't that costly when my butchers pork scratchings are £1 a bag. Duck is a more expensive meat after all.

styledilemma · 09/06/2017 12:49

I got dressed this morning and I think my boobs have had a woosh moment Shock

Part of me's really pleased, I hate having big boobs, I think theymake me lookmatronly and clothes never sit right.
(a ittle part of me's annoyed that I'll now have to fork out money on new bras, but it's a small price to pay)

B - scrambled egg with butter, small pot FF total yogurt with 6 rasperries.
L - Hamburger and coleslaw lettuce burger.
S - Coffee with double cream.

(Oh and 3 big glasses of water so far) Smile
D - will be chicken with Cauliflower and courgette rice, stirfried in a bit of coconut oil.

(as well as grating the cauliflower I also grate the courgette and mix the two together. It bulks the cauli rice out and saves pfaffing around with the spiralizer.
Less washing up as well which is always good. Smile

B -

styledilemma · 09/06/2017 12:50

Don't know why I typed a random B at the end. Confused

styledilemma · 09/06/2017 12:54

Cookingongas
Sorry to here your're still under the weather.

You're doing really well to KOKO.

Re the pork scratchings you get from the butchers - are they better than the ones that are sold in the pubs and shops?
Its never occured to me to get them from the butchers, maybe I would like them Hmm

MOIST · 09/06/2017 12:56

My boobs are always the first sign I have put on or lost a bit. Sadly they are like empty sacks when I am anything less than fat.

My snot has reached epic heights of snottiness. My head is cotton wool , ears are ringing and my lips shrivvled from the mouth breathing. I have given up and gone back to bed. What a waste of annual leave.

Cookingongas · 09/06/2017 13:29

Styled - thank you. I can't stand the shop bought scratchings. Too much gunk under the crunch. My butcher does great bags he makes himself- so does the butcher in the big town indoor market-rural wales where visiting the big town is a day outso I think it's a common thing for butchers- try them Smile

styledilemma · 09/06/2017 13:39

Too much gunk under the crunch.

that's what puts me off.
Butchers it is in future.

cabbage67 · 09/06/2017 13:51

Cooking do you suffer from hayfever? DS does and every summer he'll have a couple of nosebleeds and yesterday didn't want to go to school as he had a fuzzy head and lots of headaches over the last few days. I always put it down to hayfever.

Why are all 658 (now659) messages from this thread all on one page now or have I pressed something?

cabbage67 · 09/06/2017 13:51

It's back to normal now!!

StuntNun · 09/06/2017 14:11

The gunk is my favourite bit of pork scratchings. Blush

Veryflummoxed · 09/06/2017 14:17

cabbage I have the app and they always appear as one page on there.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 09/06/2017 14:18

All this talk of pork scratchings and gunk is making me feel a bit Confused

On the other hand, the flax seed bread was a great success - tried a very thin slice toasted with lots of butter and then had two thin slices toasted with garlic oil, avocado and tomatoes. Yum, yum, yum!

Veryflummoxed · 09/06/2017 14:18

Me too. Feel deprived if I get a gunkless one.

StuntNun · 09/06/2017 14:35

Cooking what have you started? Is gunk-gate going to be the new bean-gate?

CaptainBraandPants · 09/06/2017 14:40

I hope it went well C4 and you manage to come to the right decision for you. Flowers
Also hope you snotty, ill people get better soon, I do struggle to stay LCing when I feel like that. Flowers
OldBooks I weighed myself on the first day of BC, than on Stunt's suggestion, I took the batteries out of the scales. They've not been put back in yet, despite some wavering. Why don't you try that? At the end of the day, if it is going well and you feel good, then it doesn't matter what some arbitrary number on the scales says. But, of course it can be really demoralising even when we can rationalise it.
I must confess that I am not keen on pork scratchings either. I tried the M&S crackling crisps and they were better as they didn't have any of the gunk. I think it is interesting to see that the gunk is a marmite issue. Grin
I've got the weekend off. Yay! and I am going to a knitting workshop for 4-5 hours on Sunday, which I am really looking forward too. yes, I'm sad and middle aged

Todays foood:
B: creamy coffee x2
L: peppered herring, stuffed mushroom, half an avocado and salad
D: meatloaf with cauliflower and broccoli cheese. I had been planning on doing the DietDoctor meatloaf tonight, which is almost identical to Waa's recipe, except the bacon goes on top. i actually think it would be better on the bottom, so I'll do Waa's version instead - thanks
S: creamy coffee, 1-2 squares of 90% chocolate, maybe a G&T.

I should be able to finish work in an hour or so and will go for another run as soon as I get home. I know if I settle in at home, I'll get going again.

CodLiverOil556 · 09/06/2017 14:40

I used to be the biggest chocoholic ever (once ate 48 Cadburys creme eggs in 48 hours!)

However I've given it up completely and haven't had the slightest craving. Just bought some Lindt 90% and just about tolerate it so having a square with my afternoon coffee and cream.

Dinner tonight is the mushroom soup on the recipe page...my appetite has gone completely so haven't eaten yet, is this healthy @BIWI Confused

CaptainBraandPants · 09/06/2017 14:41

*I won't get going again!

WaaWaaWaaa · 09/06/2017 15:00

Style - When we bake an aubergine I cut the stalky end off (technical term) and I put a few slits in the top of each half and coat in oil then season. Put in the oven at about 180 for approx 20 minutes. Then you can top with tomato and cheese (but we're having just cheese at the mo) and grill till bubbly and brown! Mouthgasms...

Captain - I LOVE knitting - still very much a beginner but I cant at the mo with the babies about. I tried once and it quickly got pulled apart.

Cookingongas · 09/06/2017 15:16

I brokeBlushSadAngryI had 11 chips. Is this it? This won't ruin everything will it? If I get back on it and carry on?

C4pinkwheels · 09/06/2017 15:25

Found chicken on a stick in the hospital shop, three flavours all low with Chinese being the highest. Home made ones would be great for work/picnic lunches

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!
Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!
CaptainBraandPants · 09/06/2017 15:33

Waa I'm a keen crocheter, but can't knit. I'm really looking forward to learning. It certainly helps having something to do with your hands when you are tempted to snack.
Cooking No, 11 chips is not going to ruin everything. What will ruin things is if you think "Oh, fuck it" and carry on. Put the chips behind you (literally and figuratively) and koko. You can do this. Flowers
C4 that looks interesting. I'm amazed you managed to find anything LC in a hospital shop.

CodLiverOil556 · 09/06/2017 16:20

Tried the flaxseed bread, anyone need any house bricks?! Shock

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!
HemanOrSheRa · 09/06/2017 16:43

Good afternoon!

I hope things have gone OK C4 Flowers.

Gunk Gate Grin. I love the Gunk. Is the duck crackling as hard as pork crackling? Or is it more crisp? I am tempted! But I broke a molar on pork scratchings and have tried to avoid them or soldier and be very careful!

11 chips won't ruin everything Cooking. Just don't lose the plot and stuff your face as Captain says.

I have got some lindt 85% chocolate. I think I will be OK and not go mad. NUTS are my downfall. I know they are lowish carb but I can shovel them in at an alarming rate BlushGrin. That then starts off the 'nibbles'. I can make a creamy/yogurty mix with a waft of grated chocolate and maybe a few raspberries. That will be good as a treat.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 09/06/2017 16:56

Well AF finally appeared and the scales finally moved the right way again! Hadn't ever noticed myself peeing for England on day 1 before, as a pp mentioned, but I have been today. Hopefully that will mean another loss tomorrow.

Having eaten some gluten I really, really don't think that's my trouble at all but I'll keep at it until I get bloods taken. Just once a day, probably. Was really weird last night - was full after very little but thought I'd better keep going as I knew it wasn't enough, but the mouthfeel was really strange. And then I wanted to snack later on in the evening, which I hadn't done at all on the LCHF woe, but I did manage to resist.

StuntNun · 09/06/2017 16:59

Cooking, potato isn't actually that high carb so eleven chips won't have a huge impact so long as you get straight back to low carb.

Kermit did you use two eggs or four? I found the two egg version was a lot drier and better sliced thinly for "crackers". The four egg version made a more bread-like loaf. I also tried a three egg version which was not surprisingly halfway between the two.

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