Week 2 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - our first official weigh-in!

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Morning all!

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And don't forget the the Weight Tracker (I hope that link works but apologies if it doesn't!)

So we come to our first weigh-in. I know from last week's thread that results are going to be a bit mixed - but I hope that most of you will see a good loss.

If you haven't, don't panic! Sometimes it can take a bit of time for your body to trust you, especially if you're a bit of a serial dieter.

If you think you've been doing everything according to the rules, but still haven't seen a loss, then list out for me your meals over the last 3 or 4 days and let me see if I can spot anything obvious.

But whatever the results are today, please remember it's not a competition!

We all lose weight at different rates. And someone who sees a big loss in one week isn't going to see that every week.

And remember - it's not all about what the scales tell you. You'll find that your body shape can change even if the scales remain unchanged!

Good luck to you all.

I'm now on BCL as I started my bootcamp on the 8th so my two weeks was up on Friday. I won't be posting my food till everyone else's is on BCL

I initially lost 6lb but the scales have jumped up again I feel lighter and I can see the weight loss in my face and people say I look like I've lost weight so I think it's working. However I cannot help but feel like all the fatty stuff is wrong how do I get myself to feel like it's really ok. Previous diets have brainwashed me into thinking fat make you fat!

Also I think the dairy is stalling me so thinking of cutting it. What alternatives do people use for their tea milk and yogurt that is equally full fat as the dairy products
Hope that all made sense

Tetley I will never ever get my head around lamb. It will never cross my lips. I just couldn't.

hang don't feel too bad, we're all grown ups after all. We ultimately have to take responsibility for ourselves. It's not your fault if someone else cheats- even if you posted something.

Hang sorry you're feeling so bad. But actually also well done for the confession. I hope we can help you move on.

mummyto3 the best advice I can give you is to read about the science behind low carbing, then you'll get it. Look at the links and videos on the spreadsheet for a start.

mummyto3 coconut dairy free milk and coyo (coconut yoghurt) are good alternatives!

Sass - thanks, you've made me cry now! I promise I will keep me posts totally clean from here on in though (although by that I mean only low carb foods will be mentioned but there may be occasional swearing!). OK, enough neediness and grovelling from me. Let's KOKO! for everyone!

hang don't feel bad! It's absolutely fine to say that you are struggling and that you've fallen off the wagon - this thread is here to support you and pull you back on. Exploring why it happened and why you binge eat is great and often helps others as well as you.

It's the listing of what people have cheated with that's more of an issue, I think, because it triggers people thinking 'mmmmmm... caramel brownies' or whatever. Also the posters who (not saying anyone has done this, but certainly in past BCs) post about their cheats and then moan that the WOE isn't working, or conversely still lose weight easily despite that - it's hard on people for whom the weight comes off more slowly.

hang, I think I have the neediness crown on here sometimes so you are not coming across as needy, honestly.

As crabby says, it is the details of the food and the fact that carb tolerance is different for everyone and we are trying to stick to the plan - if you want to think about triggers and strategies which might help when you feel you are going to go off plan, we can certainly do that on here.

FWIW, I have posted on here once or twice - I am REALLY stressed and I need to post on here so as not to mindlessly eat - and that helped break the connection. Identifying and dealing with the stress triggers is a bit harder, obviously

Thanks for being so kind and forgiving everyone. Yes, it would definitely help me to think about and discuss triggers and strategies for preventing them getting the better of you. I am only just at the point of acknowledging my true issues with food. It seems to be my crutch and my reward system. Whatever is happening, food always seems to be the answer. I dabbled with the 5:2 diet at one point and you know what, on the fasting days it was a relief to not think about food! However, I just don't know how anyone with a family can manage it in the long term (or even short term). My sister does it but she has a will stronger than anyone else I know. She is also incredibly slim.

Thanks Crabby, I'm in! So far so good, although I'm ten days behind you lovely people so reading your threads has given me an idea of the potholes to look out for, thanks. My AF is already 5 days of niagara so if that gets heavier I may be in Tena pants next month. Hopefully all the meat will comp for the iron loss. I already take calcium and Vit D because I'm scared of osteoporosis and live in Scotland.

I'm a SAHM and have been carrying 1.5 stone of baby weight for 10 years some time so obv I'm hoping that will go. My main motivation though is to improve my mood. When I look back at the last few years of living away from family, hubby working away a lot, not many friends, no social life, small kids, doing up an old house etc, I think what I put down to tiredness has actually been low level depression. I read a Guardian article the other day about some cases of depression being linked to inflammation and that in turn being linked to refined carbs, sugar etc and it all made so much sense. I have been relying on the stuff for quick and easy meals for years and have a raging sweet tooth. I do eat a lot of fruit and veg but a lot of that is sweet too.

Looking into paleo diets and LCHF I found you guys and punched the air! Thanks again xx

Sass In Switzerland, there is a standard summer salad. Chicken or duck livers freshly fried in butter, seasoned, then served warm on a bed of lamb's lettuce with a raspberry vinegar vinaigrette. (Raspberry vinegar OK for BC, I hope?) You can shave some parmesan on to it, and/or add walnuts when you're doing BC Lite. Delicious, feeling hungry at the thought

"When I look back at the last few years of living away from family, hubby working away a lot, not many friends, no social life, small kids, doing up an old house etc, "

peppermint I wouldn't need to change one single word of that to describe me.

hang don't cry. We are all lovely on here. We will listen. But sometimes it's not always what you might want to hear.

I think it helps to see it differently. From my point of view, when I read stuff, I hear that some people do this woe, but eating carbs is an option. It might only be an option if there is little alternatives or a birthday or a bad day, but it's not been eliminated as an option.

I've found it easier to view it as not an option. That's not to say I'm saintly....... I can be bloody rubbish with the moderate carby choices and don't go there to do with alcohol! But I have put them under an allowed shield, and everything else isn't.

It might not work for everyone, but it might work for some.

Oh dum I'm going to Switzerland for my birthday in October!

Does it have a name?

mummy - i recommend in addition to all the good links on the spreadsheet - butter makes your pants fall off on youtube. Its a great vid by an american chap and his transformation is amazing.

Accepting fat into your life is a real mindset change - i struggled with it. Now i think how can i lard up my meals instead of how i can reduce the fat as in my SW days. I am 2st and a bit down in a year and 3 dress sizes. Good luck.

mummy I am struggling with this too but have decided to think of it as "natural" fat in butter vs "unnatural" fat and refined carbs from factories, i.e. what would cavewoman me have been able to get my hairy mitts on. I'm also trying to switch to fruit tea in the afternoons to cut down on the cream.

hang I've pmed you

dita if you started a week early and you've gained, is it possible you're in the week three to five stall period?

To the poster who talked about cream in their tea/coffee and worried about cals (was it you bless?) it's not the calories that would cause problems, IT'S THE CARBS!! There are carbs in cream. People have coconut oil and butter in BPC and don't give the fat a second though, except, in a 'how can I up this' way

Sadly dairy is a stalker for some, so other ways to drink hot drinks include unsweetened alpro, coconut milk, or coconut oil and unsalted butter done with a stick blender. I'm going to try it in a smoothie maker, which I'm sure will be fine, because our stick blender seems huge in comparison to the cup, and I'm frightened it will go everywhere.

I have seen a pound gain this morning. There are several possibilities I'm thinking of.....

Natural fluctuations

The piece of secret bloody cheese dp put into the burgers last night although the fact I didn't notice it is testament to his protestations of tiny amount....

The sauce we had with dinner, which I had several spoonfuls of, was made entirely from tomatoes.

Fluid retention.... My feet feel a bit swollen, so that's a possibility, even though I religiously drink three litres of water daily, plus hot drinks on top.

I may have been eating too much salad veg. We did a wholesale shop, so have fifty trillion cucumbers and cos lettuces. I have had large salads with breakfast, lunch and dinner since Wednesday.

So, lots of water and fat today, and I will cut back on the lovely salads and veg. I have a cup I will use and my salad/veg will be a cup full.

yoghurt news I have been so far unsuccessful cultivating weaving the yoghurt using coconut milk from a can (discovered it's got some nasty crap in it - guar gum and stabilisers) and the alpro coconut milk, isn't actually that, it's a coconut drink. Was worried I'd killed the yoghurt monster, but it seems alive still. I have left it overnight in alpro, and today I'm going to make coconut milk with some desiccated coconut and water. I hadn't realised coconut water is the liquid in a coconut - I though that was the milk, but it seems the milk is made from extracting the fat mixed with water from the 'meat' as it were..... Will report back on that one.

Is anyone else noticing the internal fat going? I swear I am. Bending over used to feel much more difficult as all my insides felt squished in. I'm positive there's less fat around my organs, and this is making bending down easier.... Or am I being bonkers?

Er.... Dairy is a stalker? I meant staller

What is this coconut youghurt? I agree Trash, I am finding dairy a stalker too. Next week I will be dairy free I think. I can drink tea black now but eating far too much Lidl youghurt.

Blessed thank you for the tipoff about buttermakesyourpantsfalloff.com he exlains insulin resistance and fat bellies and why a high fat low carb WOE is the normal one for our insides.

Trash - i have BPCs for breakfast -its a great way of getting loads of fat in. Usually i would just have 2 coffees a day one of which was BPC but my mum was staying and drinks several hundred cups of tea a day and everytime i turned around she was handing me a coffee. I forget there are carbs in cream. My mum had a habit of pouring as much cream in as you would milk - yuck.

I need to switch back to decaff but kids taking in it in turns to wake in the night and i need the hit!

I did log a days worth of food into MFP and i was surprised by how few cals but still quite a lot of carbs - 1400cals, 49g carbs -and i was following the rules to the letter. I eat tonnes of green veg and perhaps i dont need as much as i think? I forget that meat etc has good vits and that fats help you absorb vits.

I have done body pump today - first time in about 8 yrs and if i can walk down the stairs tomorrow i will consider it a victory!!

I still worry about cals - please assure me i dont need to. I think because i am not losing much and certainly not as much as first BC i do wonder if i need to keep an eye on them as well. I still have 4st to lose so its not like a am in coughing distance of goal. Would happily have 2 BPCs a day - as i love them

I am also still very hung up on the cals, I just had a lovely lunch of burger, avacodo and hallumi but it has put me over my calories on MFP, I am trying to stay under 1500 a day. Do they really not matter at all?
Just watched butter makes your pants fall off, very well explained.

Sass - I don't speak German or much Italian (let alone Romansch!), so I only know the name in French. It is Salade de rampon (or "mâche") aux foies de vollaile. But shouldn't think you'd find it in October, food in restaurants in Switzerland still tends to be much more seasonal than elsewhere, I think.
(I want to know whereabouts in Switzerland you're going but I suppose it's a bit of a thread drift! Husband and daughter are there currently, actually.)

Sorry, Sass, foies de volaille.

Just checking in and marking place.
I understand exactly what you said, peppermint. I feel much better now, too, no "brain fog" and have much more positive attitude/motivation to participate and do things. Before, the minimum was standard operating procedure: everything seemed like a struggle.
Thank you, everyone.

dum it's OK to talk about stuff other than food!

we are going to Basel. We are hiring a car though, so the plan is Zurich, Stuttgart and Lichtenstein.